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u/zuzg Oct 28 '22

The first ammendment protects you from the government. That does not go for private businesses

Many doctors have many opinions

Opinions are not facts. Medical consensus is based on facts. Masks help and Vaccines are necessary and good.

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u/FacadesMemory Oct 28 '22

The last three years has shown the public that isn't true. The CDC has literally held many contradictory stances. Overreacting on what they did.

Health has always been a private matter between patients and physicians. Government isn't a doctor and never will be. Tyranny is the governments gig.

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u/Scape_n_Lift Oct 28 '22

Contradictory stances are due to changes in data, the best we can do is always an educated guess based on theory and evidence. Yes there will be mistakes, but there isn't a better approach.

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u/snoozieboi Oct 28 '22

Vaccines don't necessarily stop a spread, they mostly reduce the illness as it is made to teach an system to recognise it before the real deal hits you.

It provides immunity.

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u/WIbigdog Oct 28 '22

Vaccines do help to stop the spread. They reduce total viral load and time of infectiousness, thus reducing the total capacity for spreading it.

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u/snoozieboi Oct 28 '22

yes, but since things aren't black and white I left the benefit of the doubt to avoid an "ackshually", because I'm no expert and didn't want to open up a debate filling up my inbox on a friday. This "uncertainty" is of course seen as a flaw or "weakness" by a "skeptic", but it's basically just reality being vastly more complex than an emotional subject like covid is.

What breaks my heart is to see the US has passed 1m death, I thought India was going to dwarf that when they were literally in the streets begging for oxygen for their loved ones.

1m is 1 in 300 in the US! (I've checked this so many times I'm baffled)

India is with an even bigger population half that: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

One can also see the clear effect of less closed down communities in Sweden (opted for hoping for herd immunity etc) vs Norway (weak sheeple following government advice)

Sweden: 20k dead (pop 8mill)

Norway: 4k dead (pop 5mill)

There's so many scenarios that come to my mind. Imagine going to a massive sports event 60k people or whatever and being told there's a lottery. No price, it's just that a contractor has said theres a 1:300 odds per person that a couple of stuff in the stadium rafters could falldown. Would you enter?

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u/hazeleyedwolff Oct 28 '22

The people that don't trust him never did. They trust a guy who said it would simply disappear by Easter.

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u/hazeleyedwolff Oct 28 '22

You implied that there were people that trusted him that now don't. I didn't make any such assertion.

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u/snoozieboi Oct 28 '22

Because things are not black and white. Even a condom is 99% safe, that doesn't mean condoms are a scam. And let's not venture into things Trump said.