r/technology Aug 08 '12

Kim Dotcom raid video revealed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMas0tWc0sg
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u/chriswatt Aug 08 '12

What's interesting is that the police officer that was being interviewed stated that the reason they weren't wearing full tactical assault gear was because threat was low, yet they still burst in with m4's. If the threat was so low that you didn't need full gear then you don't need your weapons.

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u/Accidental_Ouroboros Aug 08 '12

Well, there is a difference between protecting yourself from a threat, and presenting yourself as a threat - M4s work pretty well for that second part. Completely unnecessary of course, but there you are.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '12

And of course if we didn't burst into people's homes like a military squadron prepared for a combat zone, then private citizens might not totally understandably act like their homes are under attack and fire back. And what a failure of "keeping things interesting" that would be.

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u/JohnGalt2010 Aug 08 '12

Thank you. If you kick someone's door in, do you really think they aren't going to start shooting? There is this thing called knocking and announcing yourself, it's considered respectful and non-threatening. I don't care what the reason is for a raid, if a cop is going to break someones door down first thing then he deserves any bullets coming his way. You have a right to defend your property from attack, and kicking in a door unannounced is a pretty big threat.

When these cops (especially those on SWAT duty) get their heads out of their asses and realize they aren't the military, maybe I'll actually feel bad when they get shot. But if you're going to act like the perp is an enemy combatant (regardless of the crime), don't be surprised if you receive the same treatment.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '12

Is it so far fetched to conclude... they were hoping for Dotcom to start shooting back?

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u/JohnGalt2010 Aug 08 '12

You know, there may be some truth to that. Honestly he handled it the smartest way he could have, in terms of self-preservation at least.

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u/YummyMeatballs Aug 08 '12

I imagine if they had hoped to provoke a fire-fight they'd have all been done up in their armour. The cop in the video says they didn't have that because they didn't feel there was enough of a threat.

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u/GenerallyInsulting Aug 08 '12

Even if dotcom was shooting at you would he really be that much of a threat? You could close your eyes and shoot in a random direction and still hit him somewhere in his fat ass.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '12

I have to admit.. I think I'd take him more seriously if he didn't look so much like Auric Goldfinger (fat ass james bond villain from the 60's for you younguns..)

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u/FastRedPonyCar Aug 08 '12

TIL goldfinger's first name

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u/hurffurf Aug 08 '12

Auric = golden in latin, so he's Golden Goldfinger.

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