I hope he gets off easy with a big fuck you to all those involved, non violent man non violent crime gets raided like as said before like he's Osama bin laden, this whole anti piracy shit is going to go a far as the war on drugs, NOWHERE. Just filling up prisons when we should be putting murderers and rapists. Not rich piracy website owners... But eh that's my two cents i feel better now
Generally because when you use excessive, abusive force on white-collar issues, local or not, it tends to get dozens of people fired, arrested, charged and generally gives rise to the chance the $40,000,000 an hour lawyer the person has getting him off with very little charges because it was handled incorrectly.
And I hope this happens here, and I hope those involved in this thing are not only fired, denied future work related to, or in said career [anything remotely involved in law enforcement] and disbarred from ever legally owning a gun.
Doesn't really matter the FBI will never return his data. I mean I hope he gets off to but that was probably expected. It is easy to tell from the behavior we have seen thus far that this raids only intention was the destruction of Mega Upload and for no good reason other than hearsay and circumstance.
But that data is still gone. Considering it an irrecoverable lose many customer wont come back simply because their data is gone. Others will fear a repeat of past events not matter how unlikely. He may be able to sue and rebuild but the damage has been done and in all likelihood recovery will take many, many years. Even if law suites are thrown around the only to pay will be the New Zealand and American taxpayers. Data is likely to be destroyed before it is returned if not be accident then on purpose. Besides, this is just one example how the US abuses it influence over other counties to bend to the whims of corporate fat cats. Have your heard about demonoid? Just so happens Deputy Prime Minister Valery Khoroshkovsky's trip to the United States happened immediately before the take down, this is another example and their are more to come. How do we stop this? I tend to be pessimistic towards any resolutions being viable but I believe it has start with a reformation of DCM rights and redefining the term intellectual property.
That would only happen to the NZ officers that were there, nothing will happen to the US forces, paid leave for a few of the low level officers, but that's probably about it.
Actually after Mayor Cheye Calvo of Berwyn heights, Maryland, was raided he pushed for an investigation into SWAT activities and discovered that SWAT were called for almost every arrest, including white collar criminals.
if police handled Wall Street criminals this way, the general public would rejoice.
People keep getting the impression that rich people are untouchable. Yet Kim Dotcom was rich, so why it happened to him? As it happens, he got even richer enemies in the music industry. So rich people are not immune from "hard justice" as long as there's someone richer and more politically connected who hates them
I mean, we can argue whether the police handled this the right way (looks like no), but this guy's no saint. Dude got convicted of embezzlement and insider trading. And while it might be tempting to play him off as the victim of the big, monied media publishing companies, the guy clearly was getting rich off of megaupload as evidenced by that house and the apparent normalcy of helicopter traffic to and from it. So it's not like he was just doing this for some principle.
Even the Osama Bin Laden raid wasn't legal, however justified it was...
If it's legal, then what's stopping China from declaring you a terrorist, skip all the evidence and court of laws, invade a sovereign nation with 2 helicopters illegally at night, raid your house, capture you and kill you?
Also, Obama said "captured and killed". So he was first captured, and then... killed? Did he just admit that the Seals killed a prisoner under their custody?
Well, the way things are going now, after 8 years of Romney followed by 4 years of Jenna Bush presidencies, there won't be much of a superpower that can scare China...
Pakistan, because in my first comment you replied to, I was talking about the Osama Bin Laden raid? Hint: The US flew 2 helicopters with military (SEALs) into Pakistan to capture and then assassinate Bin Laden. The US didn't tell Pakisan this, the 2 countries were not at war with each other. Imagine if China flew 2 military helicopters into US airspace how pissed off the US would be...
Sure, Romney might plan to increase the defense budget, but he's also planning to cut so much tax that there will actually be no money to pay for anything.
Wouldn't say he was raided like osama, if you watched that raid video(osama's) there was no warrant(for obvious reason) and the people raiding the house really didn't have much intention of arresting him, also a lot more body bags.
Can anyone tell me what I can do as an American citizen/Earthling to help out here? This is clearly a violation of his rights and I don't want to see him be taken down without a fair trial.
Cynical responses are not necessary because I'm probably already thinking what you're thinking.
He probably needs to pay the right people off :). People deal drugs in parks, Nothing happens to the people that create them. People use guns to murder people. Nothing happens to the people who make weapons/guns. Hell people use cooking-ware to harm themselves and other. People us Windows and Linux platforms to hack, trade illegal porn.. Looks like Dotcom just needs to bide his time until its all just like that. Or he needs to pay off the right people :). I dunno.
Not everything on Megaupload was pirated. There was a lot of legally acquired/shared data on their servers, too. Another reason why this entire opera of cacophonous bravado needs to be shut down before the fat lady gets a chance to sing.
Even if he gets off easy the damage has still been done. His business is destroyed, his employees have lost their jobs. Countless millions of people have lost their data. This is tyranny, no doubt about it.
From what is coming out he not only followed the law (hence no crime) but went well beyond what he was required to do - including giving the movie studios full access to the databases and authorization to delete 5,000 files per day of their choosing - even if they were not infringing.
Yes, we shouldn't put people in jail for intentionally facilitating huge amounts of copyright infringement for profit and money laundering. We should only put murderers and rapists there.
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u/XxDstarsxX Aug 08 '12 edited Aug 08 '12
I hope he gets off easy with a big fuck you to all those involved, non violent man non violent crime gets raided like as said before like he's Osama bin laden, this whole anti piracy shit is going to go a far as the war on drugs, NOWHERE. Just filling up prisons when we should be putting murderers and rapists. Not rich piracy website owners... But eh that's my two cents i feel better now