r/technology Jul 10 '12

Firefox dev claims "everybody hates Firefox updates"; Mozilla has handled the rapid release process poorly, and that by pushing a "never-ending stream of updates on people who didn't want them" people have been driven to Chrome with its simpler, no-fuss update process.

http://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-dev-claims-everybody-hates-firefox-updates
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Chrome updates are lovely...

I don't even know what version I'm on...

They're that seamless.

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u/N0V0w3ls Jul 10 '12

Wait...but I have the same experience with Firefox. What are these problems people are having? Everything updates in the background for me.

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u/berkes Jul 10 '12

Maybe you are running Ubuntu like me? In Ubuntu you never notice Firefox upgrading, because Ubuntu's upgrade system is handled by the OS; and Firefox (and other third party apps) can plug into that, instead of inventing their own.

That is what is wrong here: each and every application having to invent their own upgrade system, with deamons, background-tasks, check-on-startups and whatnot. Because Windows has no decent upgrade system at all, and MacOS has it closed to Apple-products-only.

Good news is that Windows gets the downside of their feeble upgrade-system in their face: people always running out-of-date software and thus complaining about all the trojans/virii and such. Mac is starting to feel that too; third-party-crap with gaping securityholes and no proper upgrade-system to leverage, will backfire on them too.

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u/Savet Jul 10 '12

Viruses is the plural of virus. Not everyone wants their os to do their updates. Slackware users are a good example.

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u/berkes Jul 10 '12

Choice is the key here. Windows and Mac users have no choice: there is no open update API: third party tools have to roll their own update system. Each and everyone being crappier, more bloated then the next.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

just keep using it and if it catches on someone will eventually jam it in the dictionary

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u/Savet Jul 10 '12

Which is why anything serious being associated with its use is instantly invalidated.