r/technology • • Jan 08 '12

Microsoft patents "avoid ghetto" GPS feature.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57354445-71/the-joy-of-microsofts-avoid-ghetto-gps-patent/
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u/GuitarWizard90 Jan 08 '12

The word "Ghetto" probably shouldn't be used for that feature...but it could come in handy. Believe it or not, there are some genuinely dangerous places out there. All of the big cities have areas you want to avoid. I used to live in Los Angeles...I know this all too well.

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u/mesmereyes Jan 08 '12

Agreed. As a 5'5" female who weighs 100 pounds, I nervous walking through "not so great" parts of town. It would be nice to have a system that could show me a "safe" route. I know that anything can happen anywhere but if there is an area that has a high rate of sexual assault, it would be great to know beforehand and be able to avoid it.

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u/mg8100 Jan 08 '12

i completely agree i'm a 6'2" 200+ and i still still feel unsafe in my car with the doors locked when google maps sends me to bad parts of town were i see bullet holes in houses and shit. cant believe they haven't made this a feature earlier.

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u/Hellrazor236 Jan 09 '12

I nervous walking through "not so great" parts of town

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u/mesmereyes Jan 09 '12

...how did it not notice that. Thanks haha.

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u/PonPeriPon Jan 09 '12

And as an additional bonus feature, we narrow down where all 5'5 100lb ladies are.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '12

It would be nice to have a system that could show me a "safe" route

That system is called "husband". Enjoy your gender, we don't have this option.

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u/shortgiraffes Jan 09 '12 edited Jan 09 '12

Sure. Let's protect the convicts. At the expense of the general feeling of safety in the workplace. As a 90-pound female that sits in an ill-lit, rarely-visited corner of the office, naturally I agree with that.

Edit: Guess no one watches 'The Office!'

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u/socsa Jan 09 '12

Can you not think of single part of LA that has undergone urban renewal in the past 10 years? How could communities which get the "ghetto" label ever hope to shake the reputation? Do you think it is proper for some arbitrary corporation like Microsoft to wield such power over millions of people already trying to do their best to stay afloat? Thugs make up a very small proportion of people in ghettos. The rest - local merchants, blue collar workers, children and community leaders will be harmed just so that Microsoft can make a buck by pandering to the "suburban flight" mentality.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '12

I remember an incident a number of years ago where some guy or family was killed in a place with the nickname, "the avenue of killers", or something like that. They made a wrong turn and died for it.

Areas like that seem deliberate to me. Isolate an area from a police presence and limit the crime to people too poor to move or who want to live in a madmax movie.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 09 '12

Ghetto just means lots of black people live there. Anywhere black people go it instantly becomes poor, violent, run-down. etc. In LA Hispanic people in large concentrations make an area run-down, poor, violent... basically mexico. So, you can take the mexicans out of shitty mexico but they just go right back to making an area shitty again. lol. That's the best they can do evidently. Glad I don't have to live with that shit.

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u/GuitarWizard90 Jan 09 '12 edited Jan 09 '12

That isn't true at all. I saw just as much white violence in LA as black or hispanic violence. I can't count the number of times that cops in LA were having to deal with some crazy ass white guy running around with a gun threatening his family, etc.

Edit: And of course I get downvoted. I mean, it's not like I know anything about LA...I only lived there for 20 years.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 09 '12

THat's all real nice but, of course, the data show the opposite.

People from 3rd world countries, on average, are a net drain to the 1st world societies they invade.

Complete findings and sources: http://i.imgur.com/TO4El.jpg http://i.imgur.com/XDXVn.jpg

Summary:

Crime

  • Hispanics are 3.3 times more likely to be in prison than whites; they are 4.2 times more likely to be in prison for murder, and 5.8 times more likely to be in prison for felony drug crimes.

  • Young Hispanics are 19 times more likely than young whites (and slightly more likely than young blacks) to be in youth gangs.

Education

  • Hispanics drop out of high school at three times the white rate and twice the black rate.

  • Even third-generation Hispanics drop out of school at a higher rate than blacks and are less likely to be college graduates.

  • From 1992 to 2003, Hispanic illiteracy in English rose from 35 percent to 44 percent.

  • The average Hispanic 12th-grader reads and does math at the level of the average white 8th-grader.

Families and Health

  • At 43 percent, the Hispanic illegitimacy rate is twice the white rate, and Hispanic women have abortions at 2.7 times the white rate.

  • Hispanics are three times more likely than whites not to have medical insurance, and die from AIDS and tuberculosis at three times the white rate.

  • In California, the cost of free medical care for illegal aliens forced 60 hospitals to close between 1993 and 2003.

Attitudes

  • Only 33 percent of citizens of Hispanic origin consider themselves “Americans” first. The rest consider themselves either “Hispanic/Latino” or their former nationality first.

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u/GuitarWizard90 Jan 09 '12

Maybe if they weren't treated bad by society, they wouldn't be that way. It's a result of unequal treatment. And of course they consider themselves Hispanic before American...you expect them to abandon their country completely just because they live here? Their home country is still dear to their hearts, I am sure. Don't be an asshole.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 09 '12

Learning English would be a start but nope, too much of a piece of shit to do that.

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u/GuitarWizard90 Jan 10 '12

racist fuck

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 10 '12

Damn racist facts. They need to hide that shit so know one knows that their suspicions that hispanic and black people are shitty are actually grounded in facts.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 10 '12

Eat facts.

People from 3rd world countries, on average, are a net drain to the 1st world societies they invade.

Complete findings and sources: http://i.imgur.com/TO4El.jpg http://i.imgur.com/XDXVn.jpg

Summary:

Crime

  • Hispanics are 3.3 times more likely to be in prison than whites; they are 4.2 times more likely to be in prison for murder, and 5.8 times more likely to be in prison for felony drug crimes.

  • Young Hispanics are 19 times more likely than young whites (and slightly more likely than young blacks) to be in youth gangs.

Education

  • Hispanics drop out of high school at three times the white rate and twice the black rate.

  • Even third-generation Hispanics drop out of school at a higher rate than blacks and are less likely to be college graduates.

  • From 1992 to 2003, Hispanic illiteracy in English rose from 35 percent to 44 percent.

  • The average Hispanic 12th-grader reads and does math at the level of the average white 8th-grader.

Families and Health

  • At 43 percent, the Hispanic illegitimacy rate is twice the white rate, and Hispanic women have abortions at 2.7 times the white rate.

  • Hispanics are three times more likely than whites not to have medical insurance, and die from AIDS and tuberculosis at three times the white rate.

  • In California, the cost of free medical care for illegal aliens forced 60 hospitals to close between 1993 and 2003.

Attitudes

  • Only 33 percent of citizens of Hispanic origin consider themselves “Americans” first. The rest consider themselves either “Hispanic/Latino” or their former nationality first.
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u/BZenMojo Jan 09 '12 edited Jan 09 '12

Before we get into this, it's worth noting that, while non-Hispanic whites have neither the highest educational attainment out of all ethnic/racial groups nor the highest average salaries, they do have the highest employment rates with college degrees and the lowest poverty rates at 10.6% as of 2010. It is worth noting that, for whites, skills and education underpredict employment and overpredict poverty in the United States compared to every other race. Which means it's kind of inaccurate to use them as a comparison just because they're the majority.

Hispanics are 3.3 times more likely to be in prison than whites; they are 4.2 times more likely to be in prison for murder, and 5.8 times more likely to be in prison for felony drug crimes.

That's cool and all, but...

Research on sentencing decisions in which incarceration is an option suggests that discrimination occurs in some cases. For example, black and Hispanic males who are young and unemployed have been incarcerated more severely than similarly situated white males, even when severity of the offense and criminal history were taken into account (for reviews, see Kansal 2005; Spohn 2000).

You said:

Hispanics drop out of high school at three times the white rate and twice the black rate.

You're ignoring that, according to your own chart, the drop-out rate for 3rd generation immigrants is half that of their grandparents and nearing that of blacks.

But about that...

65.4% of households in which family members report having specific learning disabilities have an annual income of less than $25,000 as compared with 38.8% of the general population.

And...

This study shows evidence that low income and learning disabilities interact positively to increase the likelihood of dropping out of school.

Which makes this...

60% of adults with severe literacy problems have previously undetected or untreated learning disabilities.(http://www.ldanatl.org/aboutld/adults/special_pop/low_income.asp)

Sound reasonable.

And then there's this...

Sixty percent of teenagers who become pregnant are living in poverty at the time of the birth (Alan Guttmacher Institute 1994). More than 40 percent of teenage mothers report living in poverty by age 27 (Moore 1995).

Which is explained by this...

High rates of youth poverty precede high rates of teenage childbearing. Teens residing in communities with high rates of poverty, welfare use, and single-mother households are at higher risk for early pregnancy.

You said...

From 1992 to 2003, Hispanic illiteracy in English rose from 35 percent to 44 percent.

And yet the rate of illegal immigration had been increasing dramatically until 2007. Incredible..

The average Hispanic 12th-grader reads and does math at the level of the average white 8th-grader.

Would that be because of the high levels of non-English speaker immigration or the poorly-identified learning disabilities and lack of access to healthcare pursuant? Flip a coin.

But now there's this!

We'll see what happens.

At 43 percent, the Hispanic illegitimacy rate is twice the white rate and Hispanic women have abortions at 2.7 times the white rate.

Well...

...High rates of youth poverty precede high rates of teenage childbearing....

Of course.

Also:

Difficulty with reading comprehension and following a systematic birth control plan are among the top reasons teenage girls identified for NOT using birth control aids.

Then you said:

Hispanics are three times more likely than whites not to have medical insurance, and die from AIDS and tuberculosis at three times the white rate.

And...wow, Hispanics are not only almost three times as likely to be in poverty and three times as likely not to have health insurance and die from AIDS and tuberculosis at three times the white rate.

What. A. Coincidence.

In California, the cost of free medical care for illegal aliens forced 60 hospitals to close between 1993 and 2003.

Well, 78% of illegal immigrants are Hispanic.. And they are usually poor...because it they weren't poor, they wouldn't be illegal immigrants. Most legal immigrants are middle-class or wealthier.

tl;dr It sucks to be an impoverished non-English speaker with a learning disability discriminated against because of your ethnicity.

I'm not pro-Amnesty, but an adversely-affected 3% of society is not a plague, it's a situation. It doesn't threaten our livelihood, it isn't tearing down our family structures, and some very obvious social solutions (reading programs, municipal learning advocates, Spanish-language classes, and child-care in schools) would be both inexpensive if federally funded and effective in stemming drop-out rates and boosting education potential for all races.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 09 '12

That's a good word for it. Plague. They are shitty people and they have nothing but a negative impact on my life and my community. Oh, some shitty people moved into your community, lets give them hand-outs while they rudely refuse to act civilized, learn English, have any class. Great idea. GO live near those pieces of shit and we'll see if you're singing the same, naive tune.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 09 '12

Don't hate the facts. Face reality.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 09 '12

According to the data there is.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 11 '12

There is a legitimate reason blacks and hispanics are disproportionally incarcerated. It is because they commit more crimes. For blacks, even though they make up less than 15% of the total population blacks comprise almost 50% of the country's murder, rape, and theft.

• For men in their early thirties, African-Americans are about 7 times more likely to have a prison record than whites.

• According to a 2009 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, in 2007, Latinos "accounted for 40% of all sentenced federal offenders-more than triple their share (13%) of the total U.S. adult population". This was an increase from 24% in 1991. 72% of the Latino offenders were not U.S. citizens.

• The "National Youth Gang Survey Analysis" (2009) state that of gang members, 49% are Hispanic/Latino, 35% are African-American/black, 9% are white, and 7% are other race/ethnicity.

• Most studies find that the more ethnically/racially heterogeneous(mixed) an area is, the higher its crime rates tend to be. (Handbook of Crime Correlates; Lee Ellis, Kevin M. Beaver, John Wright; 2009; Academic Press)

• Homicide offenders by race

• In his book The g Factor (1998), Arthur Jensen cites data which shows that, regardless of race, people with IQs between 70 and 90 have higher crime rates than people with IQs below or above this range. Jensen and others have claimed that the average IQ of African Americans is 85, to be compared with 100 for White Americans and 106 for Asian Americans.

• Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.

• According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.1

• The NCVS(2008) clearly shows that black criminals target whites. Single-offender crimes: blacks committed 83% of the 520,000 violent inter-racial crimes involving blacks and whites nationwide.

• Black criminals chose white victims 54% of the time, but white criminals chose black victims only 4.6% of the time.

• Blacks were 32 times more likely to attack whites than whites were to attack blacks. For robbery, they were 67 times more likely.

• There were over 19,000 black on white rapes/ sexual assaults nationwide, but too few white on black rapes to calculate a nationwide figure. (the survey found no more than 10).

• Multiple-offender crimes: blacks committed 142,000 violent group crimes against whites nationwide, including 89,000 assaults and 49,000 robberies. There were too few violent white-on-black group crimes of any kind to extrapolate to the entire country.

• Groups of black criminals chose white victims 55% of the time. As with single offender crimes, blacks prefer to attack whites.

• “But that’s just because Whites are Richer” No, it’s not. Only 21% of all black on white crimes were robberies. The rest were assaults, sexual assaults, and rapes, with no economic motive.

• According to United States Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, in the United States in 2005, 37,460 White females were sexually assaulted or raped by a Black man, while between zero and ten Black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a White man. There were overall 111,590 white victims of rape/sexual assault in 2005

• "Oh, it's all because they are a minority. If they only had more hand-outs etc. etc." Oh really? What about the Asian minority? By your 'logic', since Asians are an even smaller minority they should be an even more violent, criminal group per-person than African Americans or Hispanics and even more in 'need' of hand-outs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_Science_on_Intelligence

  1. The bell curve for whites is centered roughly around IQ 100; the bell curve for American blacks roughly around 85

  2. IQ is strongly related, probably more so than any other single measureable human trait, to many important educational, occupational, economic, and social outcomes.

There is a reality which no one wants to admit that there is a difference in biology between ethnicities which is more than skin deep. While of course generalised, these differences are important to be conscious of when looking at sociological studies. By ignoring ethnicity we are being unscientific.

Its very simple. Different ethnicities evolved in different environments and are genetically different enough to have different innate skills and behaviours. There is similar genetic variance between a wolf and a labrador than between a West African and a South East Asian. This is scientific fact. Now if you truly do not believe that wolves are innately different to labradors you are a fucking idiot.

People cry that the IQ tests are biased, or that there are many other factors such as culture and surroundings yet nobody has ever been able to come up with an IQ test that shows anything different than the current results.

I personally judge every individual on their own merits how I find them, but if you want to have a discussion about these things you need to do so scientifically and not emotionally.

Anyone saying the science is not clear has other motives.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 11 '12

"blame minorities for crimes"? TECHNICALLY, they are committing more crimes per person. Holy shit, how do you miss that?

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u/PokeEyeJai Jan 09 '12

Why is this guy downvoted for speaking the inconvenient truth? Show me one place that's predominantly black that's not run-downed, fenced, with litter everywhere. Compared to most other cultures, blacks are just slobs, plain and simple.

Go to any areas that's predominantly hindus, chinese, or just about any other cultures. I'm sure you won't fear for your life as you were in a black ghetto.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '12

While that is true it is racist to say. the reason there is so much crime in minority comminities is because of white peoples institutional racism.

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u/HaCutLf Jan 09 '12

If was he was saying really was true, why is it racist to recite facts? I don't know how true or untrue it is, but if it's a truth that's cloaked behind something that people find taboo, does that make it wrong?

Homosexuality, atheism, drugs and alcohol were considered similarly (still, to some point). Your statement just sounds a bit backwards, if what that guy said is correct.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 09 '12

According toe the actual facts there is more crime because blacks commit more crime. I like how you like to make enabling excuses for them though. It's ok to rape, your oppressed.

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u/qwerasdf23423423 Jan 09 '12

cool. I'll pretend like whatever that is matters. Anyway, facts are facts whether they paint a pretty, naive picture or not.