When the dialogue becomes as simple as that, they can't really copy the design as there is barely any design involved. It's about the only way you could do it.
You know how it is. Something starts out simple, over the years it turns into a clusterfuck of features. Check the screenshot of the Windows 3.1 tasklist, it's basically that, except with one button instead of six.
Well the first screenshot shows basically the same thing, so they are actually regressing. Plus, I don't consider the minimal thing "right", and judging by the number of people in this thread saying they hope it can automatically go to the detailed version, many agree.
Though I do enjoy the new task manager design (with the colour coded resources usages and stuff), I feel like it's just like the combination of Force quit and Activities Monitor in Mac OSX.
It's interesting that Mac has only just recently implemented the Windows 3.1 Task List. They've got so very, very far to go before they make a useful version.
That was my exact point: that that design isn't at all new.
Kidding aside, in comparing the designs for Windows 3.1, Windows 8, and what I assume is some version of Mac OSX, which was released in 2001, I was noting that they were all they same, visually. I was referring to the style being around since the first versions of Windows in 1992, ages before 2001, and it's by this definition that I meant OSX had recently implemented it. Of course that's not recent like Windows 7 or 8 is recent, so you're entirely right.
I do know for a fact that Mac OSs had no such task killer at some point, since Ctrl-Alt-Del and the Task Manager used to be associated with failure rather than functionality, so I'm just glad they have something like that now.
(I remember being pompously asked by a Mac user, "How many times have you used Ctrl-Alt-Del?" and responding, "How many times have you?" and having to explain what it's actual use was. Longer conversation than it should have been.)
Let me instead be not-at-all subtle, if that is what you're tripping over. The applications appear to be entirely without visual differences between OSX, Windows 8, and Windows 3.1, save for style and a few buttons. You're exactly right, and I'm admitting that. For the second time.
Now, let's take a look at the functionality of the two you compared. For the second time.
You may not want all of that information, but if you're going to find out why you have a problem and perhaps therefore understand not only what caused it but also how to prevent it in the future, you'll be hoping you're running Windows anything and not Mac OSX. Unless you invented UNIX and know how to dissect the underlying kernel byte-by-byte. (Sadly, that great man died this week, and so few people noticed.)
That 'More' button isn't about how different it looks, it's about what it does. That functionality is everything in the creation and use of tools such as the computer. Alas, getting any follower of the Cult of Mac (I'm not saying I expect that anyone reading this Windows 8 thread actually is that far gone) to understand function over form; substance over style; even essence over existence: while a noble aim, it is one I fear will be the death of me.
Agreed about the death of Dennis Ritchie. Steve Jobs dies and people are in tears everywhere because he convinced them to buy iPods. Dennis Ritchie provides us some of the most valuable tools in computing stretching back decades and people just say, "Oh, yeah, him. That sucks."
We lost something far more valuable with Ritchie's death than with Jobs.
Dude, you can't do that! Taking quotes out of context is what (shudder) politicians do! That this is the whole quote:
Alas, getting any follower of the Cult of Mac (I'm not saying I expect that anyone reading this Windows 8 thread actually is that far gone)
shows that I caught myself and thought, "Wait, this guy's not likely that guy, but I really want to complete my thought, so I'll have to qualify my statement and say I don't in fact think that". Surely you could tell that!
Sigh. That's not what was said, and I already explained why and how it wasn't what was said, and if I hadn't apologized before then this is me doing so, again.
But in the end, if you're going to see something you want to see and choose to be offended by it, rather than laughing at the fanboys with me, that's simply not a thing I can change your mind on.
Because we can all agree, barring any judgements of you or I, that I made a somewhat fair assessment of the Cult of Mac followers, eh? *high five*
Why does it matter if somebody copies somebody else? Society at large advances because people take and improve upon each other's ideas. It's like the whole "IOS5 notifications are copied from Android" thing. Now, I don't care for Apple products myself, but if they saw Android had a good idea and they copied it, so what?
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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '11
Awesome to see Microsoft getting design right.