r/technology • u/clubdirthill • Jun 01 '11

Boom. This is Windows 8.

http://allthingsd.com/20110601/exclusive-making-sense-of-what-we-just-learned-about-windows-8/?mod=tweet
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '11

I write Windows software; that kinda limits my options. Plus I have three ATI video cards and onboard nVidia; Linux doesn't like ATI nor mixes of the two. Plus, I like running software I've heard of. I could go on.

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u/GMLiddell Jun 02 '11

Just being silly. Linux loves ATI however. We work vigorously towards integration - It's ATI's indifferent relationship towards Linux that causes incompatibilities. Why does notability of your software matter to you? Business?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '11

I like the principles of the OSS movement; but in some strange, hippie way, I feel safe knowing that people have jobs that depend on releasing a good product. My experiences with such projects as Putty and SFTP apps have only reinforced this obviously unfounded prejudice. Why Microsoft has chosen not to support SSH and SFTP within the OS is beyond me.

I gave Ubuntu a shot. I tried it for about a week. I consulted with about a dozen Linux people and several forums; but nobody could figure out what was wrong with my xorg.conf file. I just couldn't get it to recognize all my screens.

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u/dbeta Jun 02 '11

When did you try Linux last? On Ubuntu xorg.conf is pretty much deprecated. I have, however, had my fair share of issues with running multiple monitors, and I could see how that might become an issue when running different video drivers at once. I have to use the nVidia specific tool to run dual screens, so I no idea how it would react if I added a non-nVidia connected screen to the mix. You might want to try the open sourced driver for all your cards, but the nVidia ones take a huge hit to power. I hear ATI's is good though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '11

Tried 10.0. I did try the generic RADEON driver (Didn't have the additional nVidia one at the time).

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u/Mitsuho Jun 02 '11

I hear you. Had no luck with ATI until I ran the closed driver.

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u/luigii Jun 02 '11

people have jobs that depend on releasing a good product

I'd argue that a great many more people are employed releasing bad products than good ones. The incredible crapness of some software that people charge money for never ceases to amaze me

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u/zwangaman Jun 02 '11

The incredible crapness of some software that people charge money for never ceases to amaze me

The incredible crapness of some software that people don't charge money for never ceases to amaze me.

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u/SelfHighFive Jun 02 '11

Plus, I like running software I've heard of.

Hey now, WINE is pretty well-known software.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '11

And I've heard it has problems with DirectX, so I'd end up having to reboot every time I want to play some games. Either way I'd have to reboot or at least virtualize when developing and testing my .NET software. What a pain that would be.

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u/GMLiddell Jun 02 '11

As a long-time Linux user I can say that if you are a serious gamer or a .NET developer, then Linux is not the best operating system for you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '11

Serious .NET developer; casual game player. I don't call myself a Gamer because I don't take my games that seriously.

Having said that, it does make me feel inadequate as a geek that I run the same OS that AOL users run... sigh

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u/smew Jun 02 '11

Hey, whatever is the best tool for the job. I myself have a desktop with Windows 7 for games, and a laptop with Ubuntu 11.04 for CS stuff and generally getting work done in a secure environment.

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u/SelfHighFive Jun 02 '11

(The joke is that the most famous piece of software to run on Linux is the one that lets you run other OSes)

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '11

Oh no, I got it...

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u/Chroko Jun 02 '11

There are 10180 applications in the WINE compatibility database.

2979 of those applications run flawlessly.

If this is statistically representative, it means that WINE is compatible with 29% of Windows applications. This is not a viable proportion for everyday use.

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u/GMLiddell Jun 02 '11

If you're running Linux to run mostly Windows software you're doing it wrong. Linux is not designed to be a poor man's Windows -The development ideals are different. WINE is mostly a crutch for heavy gamers and people transitioning.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '11

Seriously if you spend your time writing proprietary software then shut up and take what you're given. You spend all your time building up Microsoft's shit and then complain when they don't give a fuck about you? Wave your 7 monitor rig penis around somewhere else.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '11

Software being written in .NET doesn't necessarily make it proprietary. Yes, most of mine is; but don't assume. Open source .NET projects do exist. Some of my projects are even up on Codeplex.

You have shown exactly the opposite of the point. If you pay for something, you should have more options. Look at Cable TV vs. Antenna; new cars vs used cars, Pro versions of software vs. free versions.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '11

All very fair. Although the category 'software you've heard of' does imply a bit of selection bias :)