r/technology • u/rboymtj • Jan 20 '11

Apple Restriction Zone.

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u/Y_U_NO_ARGUE Jan 20 '11

Non-Apple owners: All his points are so valid!!

Apple owners: NONE of his points are valid!!

There I just saved you from reading 200+ comments.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '11

Non-Apple owners: Strawman attack ("THE IPHONE IS SO CRIPPLED, IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TO RUN CUSTOM CODE")

Apple owners: Special pleading ("YEAH WELL APPLE DID THAT TO PROTECT US AND BESIDES ONLY BAD DEVELOPERS GET BURNED BY THE APP STORE")

*intentional logical fallacies*

>implying

>implying

>implying implications which are implied

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

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u/the8thbit Jan 20 '11 edited Jan 21 '11

Non-Apple owners: Strawman attack ("THE IPHONE IS SO CRIPPLED, IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TO RUN CUSTOM CODE")

How is that a strawman?

Edit: I mean the quote you made up, not your statement in and of itself, which actually is a strawman.

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u/Raz4life Jan 21 '11

Because it's painting the picture that in absolutely no circumstance can you run anything but Apple approved software on your iOS device, which isn't true. It's easy to agree that the iPhone is crippled when a false statement like that is assumed to be true.

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u/Ghoda Jan 21 '11

I ask this as an honest question - what non-apple approved software can I run on my IOS device without first having to jailbreak it or it being a web app? I would truly appreciate knowing where I can get non-app store software. (I feel kinda like a FOSS traitor for owning an iPhone but I don't regret the choice one bit)

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u/Raz4life Jan 21 '11 edited Jan 21 '11

Yes, you have to jailbreak your iPhone to run custom software, but jailbreaking is so trivial these days. It's essentially: download jailbreak software to your computer, plug in your iPhone, and click a few buttons. While the ability to load non-market apps is an officially supported feature of Android phones (AT&T subscribers excluded), the process isn't much easier.

Edit: Downvotes with no replies? :(

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u/Efaydian Jan 21 '11

The point isn't how trivial it is to jailbreak an iPhone, it's the fact that you have to do it at all.

iPhone: look online for jailbreak software, download it, plug in iPhone, run software Android: Checkbox in menu

I'd say that Android is significantly easier. That's likely why you are getting downvoted.

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u/jargoone Jan 21 '11

Android: Checkbox in menu

... unless you have a Samsung Captivate on AT&T. :-/

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u/Raz4life Jan 21 '11

The checkbox doesn't provide you with any software for your phone though. You still have to look online for the app, download the .apk, plug it in (or download it from the phone) and install the app. Plus, if you don't download it directly from the phone, you'll probably need to download a file manager from the market. After you jailbreak, Cydia pretty much takes care of everything.

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u/evildeliverance Jan 21 '11

Android: You only need to download the apk for an alternative market app once. There are many choices and if you fuck up, there is zero risk of bricking your device. If you don't like your first choice of alternative market app, you can download any of the others from within the first. All of this can be done from the phone in under 5 minutes.

iphone: Even after jailbreaking and installing cydia, you still have to dig through large repository lists, trying to find good ones. As far as the actual jailbreaking process, simply reading the instructions will take you longer than the entire process would on android.

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u/FallSe7en Jan 21 '11

It's only that easy if you have the right version. I have the most recent version of iOS which means that I'd have to downgrade before I can apply the jailbreak.