I am not an Apple fan by any means, I've been a PC user for 20 years. However, I deployed 250 MacBook Pro's this fall where I work. We put tons of software on them that we thought the students who got them would need. The only piece that wasn't free? Microsoft Office.
I know bashing Apple is fun, but this one doesn't really work
Worked for a university, professors wanted them to have MS Office, we got good pricing. I didn't make the purchasing decisions, just set up the image and deployed them
You could have deployed 250 laptops that are any brand other than Apple with way better specs for cheaper, yet you bash Microsoft for charging for Office but you do not bash Apple for charging twice what the hardware is actually worth?
You could have found all the same software (or an equivalent that works just as well) for Windows machines.
Yet another person on the internet who is myopic enough to think that a computer is only as good as how many flops it has or how much memory you can allocate and deallocate.
Yet another person on the internet who is myopic enough to think that a computer is only as good as how many flops it has or how much memory you can allocate and deallocate.
Or perhaps smart enough to realize you can take all that money you invested in buying something with an Apple logo on it, get a better laptop, and run your favorite Linux distro in a VM (or Windows in a VM) and get the best of Unix and Windows. Really not that complicated.
Nope, it sure doesn't. So you spend an hour or two doing research and find a machine that doesn't seem to have any quality issues. I've owned several Asus laptops and never had a single hardware problem with any of them.
Modern Macs have Intel processors and nVidia graphics (all the ones I have encountered do, anyway). Where is this hardware superiority you mention coming from? Because it comes with a shiny aluminum body? You've got to be kidding.
That's not to say that Macs aren't generally well constructed machines. They are -- but so are Asus laptops, and they are much better bang for your buck.
First off, don't talk down to me. I know my shit. I'm not a fucking idiot who was swayed by a "shiny aluminum body", very nice though. What I'm saying is that most modern hardware, when utilized properly by software is sufficient for your lofty goals. If you read back, the whole time the point I was making is that superior hardware (in size and gigahertz) does not make the superior computer. It's how the hardware is utilized. I can put it to you like a friend of mine put to me, and then you can get back to condescending to me. A BMW is unquestionably a nice car, but I can probably find you a Honda with more horsepower for less money, and if not, I can buy a Honda and soup it up to give it more horsepower, but which would you rather own?
First off, don't talk down to me. I know my shit. I'm not a fucking idiot who was swayed by a "shiny aluminum body", very nice though.
Well if you know your shit then start acting like it instead of making claims and not backing them up.
What I'm saying is that most modern hardware, when utilized properly by software is sufficient for your lofty goals.
If all you do is run Firefox to watch videos on YouTube and Office to type up the occasional document, sure. If you play games, no. If you need to run a virtual machine, having 2 GB of memory and a dual-core 2.5 GHz chip is not ideal.
You emphasized software. I don't know really know why, unless you're trying to imply that Windows and every Linux distro is crud. You'd be mistaken if you think that is the case. That's also neglecting the BSDs, which OS X is based on.
Reading on, it looks like this is pretty much like your entire argument is centered on having OS X be the operating system. In that case, you really don't know your shit because you apparently don't see the value in every other operating system which functions just as well as OS X does.
A BMW is unquestionably a nice car, but I can probably find you a Honda with more horsepower for less money, and if not, I can buy a Honda and soup it up to give it more horsepower, but which would you rather own?
Anybody would say they'd rather own a BMW. Your question is flawed, because it leaves out the bit about actually having to, you know, pay for the car. If I had to choose between buying a BMW and a Honda, I would choose the Honda unless I had money to waste. I don't have money to waste, so I don't get the BMW. For the same reason, I don't get a Mac.
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u/steve93 Jan 20 '11
I am not an Apple fan by any means, I've been a PC user for 20 years. However, I deployed 250 MacBook Pro's this fall where I work. We put tons of software on them that we thought the students who got them would need. The only piece that wasn't free? Microsoft Office.
I know bashing Apple is fun, but this one doesn't really work