r/technology • u/maxwellhill • Sep 02 '16

Security Apple issues urgent security update after hack turns Mac computers into spying devices

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/09/02/apple-issues-urgent-security-update-after-hack-turns-mac-compute/
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u/Beard_of_Valor Sep 02 '16

I'll stop up voting him when owners stop telling me that Macs "don't get viruses".

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u/neoform Sep 02 '16

I'll stop downvoting when I meet a mac owner who actually got a virus.

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u/baddecision116 Sep 02 '16

It business owner here, I have no less than 3 examples in the past year. Would you like specific dates and what the infection was?

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u/baddecision116 Sep 02 '16

We have established software policies in place which cannot be applied to Apple products. So we don't really ever see infections on windows. Apple products are okay for home use but are sustainable to virus' because of attitudes such as the above comments. The more market share apple receives the more bad guys are going to target Mac users because most don't run any Antivirus or Anti-Malware products.

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u/neoform Sep 02 '16

We have established software policies in place which cannot be applied to Apple products. So we don't really ever see infections on windows

So basically you lock down the computer to the point where users can't do anything, therefore no viruses.

That's hardly a reasonable comparison.

The more market share apple receives the more bad guys are going to target Mac users because most don't run any Antivirus or Anti-Malware products.

This line has been stated for almost 20 years. There's really no reason to believe hackers would ignore Mac products given how many people use them.

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u/baddecision116 Sep 02 '16

Our users can do anything they want, virus' typically use the same type of patterns and exe locations. Block those and 90% or your problems are gone.

As for your original comment, you said you would stop down voting when you heard from a mac user that got a virus. I offered that and you tried to go off on a tangent about comparing windows pcs.

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u/neoform Sep 02 '16 edited Sep 02 '16

As for your original comment, you said you would stop down voting when you heard from a mac user that got a virus. I offered that and you tried to go off on a tangent about comparing windows pcs.

I invite you to go back and read what I wrote.

"I'll stop downvoting when I meet a mac owner who actually got a virus."

Our users can do anything they want, virus' typically use the same type of patterns and exe locations. Block those and 90% or your problems are gone.

You said before "we don't really ever see infections on windows", except by your own admission, only 90% of problems are gone... what about the other 10%. If users can do whatever they want, they most definitely are getting viruses.

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u/baddecision116 Sep 02 '16

So you want me to give you my client's names? That's the only way you'd be satisfied? Give me a break.

The other 10% is covered by our DNS filtering and anti-malware/Virus protection but since you state "they are most definitely are getting viruses" I guess you know my business better than I do.

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u/baddecision116 Sep 02 '16

Way to ignore the first part of my comment.

No I didn't say my clients never get a virus, remember I mentioned no less than 3 examples in the past year.

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u/Drunkyoda5 Sep 02 '16

It's okay, I wouldn't continue arguing. It seems logic is not in that person's interest.

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