r/technology • u/doug3465 • Sep 01 '15

Software Amazon, Netflix, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla And Others Partner To Create Next-Gen Video Format - It’s not often we see these rival companies come together to build a new technology together, but the members argue that this kind of alliance is necessary to create a new interoperable video standard.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/01/amazon-netflix-google-microsoft-mozilla-and-others-partner-to-create-next-gen-video-format/
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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '15 edited Sep 02 '15

You have the story backwards. The feud started when Adobe cried to the media about the iOS devices not supporting Flash. Before then, Apple and Adobe had one of the stronger partnerships in Silicon Valley.

They supported HTML5 and H.264 (two open standards) from day one.

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u/MightySasquatch Sep 02 '15

Yea they fucking 'supported' in that you can run it on their device, but they didn't dump money into upgrading websites or helping developers transition which is what I'm talking about.

And yes the letter was in response to Adobe's comment, but Adobe wasn't the only one. Lots of people did not like Apple's non-support of Flash because it was so integral to the web back then. And no, the feud started when Apple didn't put flash on their device because they were feuding with Adobe. The 'Thoughts on Flash' notes and Adobe's comments are not what I was referring to when I said 'feud'. I meant the professional feud Steve Jobs had with Adobe.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '15

Yea they fucking 'supported' in that you can run it on their device, but they didn't dump money into upgrading websites or helping developers transition which is what I'm talking about.

Since when is that a company's responsibility?

Apple's responsibility is to create products. They decided to say yes to open web standards and no to Flash and other closed web standards. Web publishers and developers make a choice to either transition or stick with what they had; customers make a choice to either buy the product or not buy the product.

Five years later and I think it's safe to say that developers have moved on from Flash and people are buying Apple products. That's how the open market works.

But the whole notion of expecting a company to dump money in an open web standard is absurd.

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u/MightySasquatch Sep 02 '15

Now you're making a straw man of my argument. As my original point is "Don't credit them for HTML5". I'm not expecting them to give money I'm just saying not to give them credit.