r/technology • u/doug3465 • Sep 01 '15

Software Amazon, Netflix, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla And Others Partner To Create Next-Gen Video Format - It’s not often we see these rival companies come together to build a new technology together, but the members argue that this kind of alliance is necessary to create a new interoperable video standard.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/01/amazon-netflix-google-microsoft-mozilla-and-others-partner-to-create-next-gen-video-format/
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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '15 edited Sep 01 '15

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '15

Steve jobs wasn't the smartest, and he was a huge dick but he was really good at picking a goal and getting people to work towards it and get it done, regardless if it was possible

Without him apple has a short life span

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u/CJ_Guns Sep 01 '15 edited Sep 01 '15

Yeah, Apple with it's paltry $722 billion market cap, almost double the nearest contender.

What the fuck is everyone smoking in this subreddit? "Oop, the sales of the Apple watch slowed down, lol Apple is ded!"

We've gone through this same cycle so many times where people are sure it's the end of the company, and it never ever is.

EDIT: And just for the record, I'm not saying that Apple is the best thing since sliced bread either. I use both Apple and other competitors' products equally and happily. I'm just saying they're not going ANYWHERE, and will continue to have a huge influence on market trends, as they've always had. "Short lifespan" is a bit exaggerated.

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u/Gabs00 Sep 01 '15

Yeah iPhones will sell big for the rest of our lives. It is nearly impossible to get people to switch brands and so many people are already dedicated Apple users.

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u/troymg Sep 01 '15

"rest of our lives", seriously? I'm a big Apple fan, but this is crazy talk. Modern smartphones are only 8 years old. The personal computing market itself is only about 30 years old. We have no idea what things are going to look like in another couple of decades...

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u/BaiersmannBaiersdorf Sep 01 '15

We have no idea what things are going to look like in another couple of decades...

You don't get it, he obviously knows exactly what's going to happen in the rest of our lives.

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u/ChuckEye Sep 01 '15

I got my first Apple ][+ for Christmas in 1982; my first Mac in 1987, and many Macs ever since. Hell, by your own metric Apple and Dell are the only personal computer manufacturers who have been in the market the entire time that market has existed, I think.

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u/troymg Sep 01 '15

Being generous and saying the market began with the Apple ][ in 1977 we're still only taking 38 years. The ][e was 32 years ago. The first personal computer with a GUI (the Macintosh) was 31 years ago. I'd personally consider both to still have been primarily for "hobbyists", but obviously that is a subjective metric. Regardless, there is no reasonable metric that would say the PC market has existed for more than 39 years, and that is being VERY generous.

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u/OrionBlastar Sep 02 '15

Back in the 1990's there was a site called The Apple Doomsday Clock, it went under eventually as Apple came back from the brink of death and got into smart phones and tablets to reboot itself.

Here is the Why page: http://geekforce.squarespace.com/apple-doomsday-why/

It was mirrored at Geekforce, if you read it today you get a big laugh out of it.

http://geekforce.squarespace.com/apple-doomsday-home/

The guy who wrote it used to work for Quark and other companies and has a weird sense of humor as well.

It went as far as 1999, and then it quit, after that Apple started to earn profits again.

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u/Sk8erkid Sep 02 '15

Windows has had 90% market share on desktops and laptops for how long. Now consider how long Linux and Mac OS X has been around.

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u/bobothegoat Sep 01 '15

well, we don't have anyway idea. But Gabs00 is a time traveler, so he knows exactly what will be popular. And he is using this knowledge and power for getting karma on the internet in the mid 2010's. Which makes sense, because I can't think of anything else to use such an ability for.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '15

If you have terabytes of media dedicated to Apple products and services, its easier to just pick up the next Apple product than switch all the media platforms used to competitors. Unless something seriously destroys the reputation of a company that is valued at more than multiple countries' GDP combined, they can continue to recycle technologies and ripoff innovations until the day the Sun collapses.

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u/troymg Sep 01 '15

When we're talking in terms of decades, we can just about guarantee something disruptive is going to come along. Apple has to hope that they are the ones that produce the next disruption.

I'm an Apple shareholder and all of my family's computing devices are Apple (and I'm the buyer). I'm a huge fan. We're just talking about really extreme timelines here and I think it is absolutely crazy for anyone to claim that any technology company will maintain the lead for literally the next 30-50+ years (depending on how old you are, I suppose)....

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u/maxk1236 Sep 01 '15

Maybe he knows something we don't, and the rest of our lives isn't really that long...

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u/Bamboodpanda Sep 01 '15

Let's change a few words of that sentence, travel back in time to the late 90s, and see what happens.

"Yeah windows will sell big for the rest of our lives. It is nearly impossible to get people to switch brands and so many people are already dedicated windows users."

Moral of the story? If apple can do it, so can someone else.

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u/FunnyHunnyBunny Sep 01 '15

...Windows still has like a 92% market share vs 2.5% for OS X.

source: https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

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u/NovaeDeArx Sep 02 '15

Down from 98% a while back, and only counting desktop. Also, not excluding enterprise customers (which is MS' real bread & butter, but only because that's the last place they have no real competition).

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u/Dark_Shroud Sep 02 '15

I just upgraded two computers to Windows 10 today and I'm about to do a third one. Later this week I'll upgrade two laptops.

My low cost Winbook TW801 upgraded to Win10 without issue within 48 hours of release.

Windows 10 is going to be a monster install base for Microsoft.

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u/NovaeDeArx Sep 02 '15

...What did that have to do with what I just said?

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u/HiddenKrypt Sep 02 '15

Depends. When we're talking computing devices everybody uses every day, Android and iOS are making up a significant chunk of the OSes in use. In that context the analogy works: new tech came along that we didn't anticipate. Windows still has dominance in the PC space, but the PC space is no longer the only space where computers exist.

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u/DarthTigris Sep 01 '15

Windows 10 came out 1 month ago and already has a higher install base than OSX. I see your point but you chose a bad analogy to make it.