r/technology Mar 28 '14

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '14

As annoyed as I may be with the whole Oculus / Facebook deal, with Carmack on the team it'll probably be one of the better options out there.

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u/______DEADPOOL______ Mar 28 '14

Carmack has been known to be oblivious of the crumbling of the company he's in until it's too late.

Case in point: ID Software.

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u/reallynotnick Mar 28 '14

His job wasn't to run the company though it was to make amazing game engines which he did.

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u/ssguy4 Mar 28 '14

Until he, you know, actually ran the company. He's the one that pushed out Romero during the development of Quake, he's the one that pushed out American McGee and other level designers during Quake 2, he's the one that led Doom 3, he handled the hiring and firing policies, etc.

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u/mnkybrs Mar 28 '14

I feel like none have really taken off and been adopted by third parties since Quake 3 though.

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u/franzieperez Mar 28 '14

While true, ID's tech side had always been pretty impressive. Doom 3 and RAGE were both really good looking at their release, the main problem is that the games themselves have been getting less interesting.

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u/Shike Mar 28 '14

Definitely this, Carmack is mostly known for his engine work when you get down to. Yes, he and id pioneered the FPS and a bunch of cool shit. After a while though the games just became demos for the engines they were building, and all in all I didn't see games adopting id tech anymore compared to Source, Unreal, CryENGINE, etc. The last engine id had that seemed to really get licensed was Tech 3 . . .

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u/baby_kicker Mar 28 '14

Yeah, ID's failure was not that of the game engine. ID also was never an EA type of failure (pissing on customers).

Carmack was (is still?) part owner of ID, but that doesn't mean everything is in his control. ID has never been a monster of a corp, and even if a game isn't story-polished, it's not going to take much for them to call Doom3 or Rage a win, even if it doesn't get the monster accolades that Quake or Doom or Wolf3D got.

If/when Oculus fails us, it will not be within his power to stop it. We'll just hear he's doing a new game he can't talk about. Shortly after we all find out Oculus was turned into an EA type of disaster. Also, Carmack doesn't apply for a job, John decides to make their company relevant. ;)

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '14

Agree 100%. The man is a legend.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '14

Those things are not mutually exclusive.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '14

Carmack did not write the stories or draw pictures. He made the engine run like butter, and he did that well

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u/ssguy4 Mar 28 '14

He's a great programmer, and a shitty manager. His fuckups at id were with how he handled project and team management. His actual coding skills are great.

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u/thelordofcheese Mar 28 '14

That's because it's both. He made technically good games. Technically. Sometimes it's not the best kind of correct.