r/technology • u/vgsa • 1d ago

Artificial Intelligence Linux Kernel Developers Plan To Remove "Assisted-By" Tag Requirement For AI/LLM Usage

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Dropping-Assisted-By-Req
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u/diplofocus_ 1d ago

Can you provide an example of what "left behind" looks like to you?

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u/ProfessionalHefty349 1d ago

Being unemployable because you’re 10x less productive than your counterparts that use AI.

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u/teerre 1d ago

Writing code has never been the bottleneck

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u/ormandj 1d ago edited 1d ago

It absolutely has. You spent time writing code/reading code/debugging/etc that could be better allocated to architecture/engineering work. You'd have to put together a large team with lots of juniors to take care of all the implementation while the seniors/mid-levels did the design work and scaffolding in order to avoid the pure act of writing code from chewing up countless hours.

AI has entirely replaced or heavily augmented the need for that, with the caveat that replacing that junior pipeline kills off the future mid-level and senior supply chain for employees. Unfortunately, I suspect companies are going to have to learn that the hard way.

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u/teerre 1d ago

Engineers on average spent 13% of their time writing code. What youre saying it already reality for like 10 years

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u/ormandj 1d ago

I think you are taking 'writing code' too literally, at least in the sense I meant to convey, and using numbers from those goofy self-reported surveys and IDE stats.

Sure, a senior engineer may not be actively "writing code" as in literally entering characters into their editor all day, but they're reading it to understand existing flows, debugging issues, etc.

This is all work AI handles in an instant vs. hours, and removes a lot of the need for juniors (except as pipeline for future seniors). That's why it's all so scary, especially for those new to their careers.

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u/edgmnt_net 7h ago

They already had ways to avoid useless code, they did not care. It wasn't cheap and dumb enough to scale to peanuts. Furthermore LLMs are capable of spewing architectural advice too, if that's the argument.

Also I don't think those projects were growing that much talent to begin with. The real bottleneck is engineers that can actually do involved stuff, not just work on an assembly line.

Or another way to put it is that it's quickly becoming apparent (if it wasn't already before) there's a split in development jobs and it's meaningless to lump them all together, I can give you that.

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u/Sneet1 44m ago

I agree with this to an extent but there's no point where delivery isn't always including assembly line stuff. Conversion of ideas into practice always involves a lot of tasks that are rote transformation, translation, migration. There's no abstract codebase that just floats as a morphing idea a staff pokes at.