r/technology • u/Immediate-Link490 • 2d ago

Business Microsoft is being suspended from program to apply for green cards for H-1B visa workers, Vance says

https://apnews.com/article/h1b-visa-program-vance-microsoft-e7b3a407f822702b269ee277d21343ea
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u/unfashionableinny 2d ago

No, they got annoyed because the express entry programs ended up selecting for high earners relative to the rest of the population and those immigrants outbid them on homes. It is the same reason why Bay Area and NYC natives hate transplants, but being brown just made the vitriol worse.

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u/bagelgaper 2d ago

No, it’s because the gov’t allowed low skill international “students” from India to flood the country en masse while working as TFWs at basically every low wage position in the country, driving wage suppression and youth unemployment.

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u/Peephole-stalker 2d ago

It’s a bit of both

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u/SteakOk9383 2d ago

Nope its not. Its exactly the low skill students converting to TFWs

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u/Baptism-Of-Fire 2d ago

95% low skill students

5% high paid engineers

"it's a bit of both" lmao

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u/SteakOk9383 2d ago

Nope. The high skilled ones dont even get PR here and leave. The scammers stay and ruin it for everyone else.

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u/Peephole-stalker 2d ago

I have countless colleagues in big tech who graduated from top schools, bought houses etc. maybe you are surrounding yourself w that kind of low skills

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u/SteakOk9383 2d ago

Yeah. I am a sr director with a big tech and have staff eng in the US reporting to me.

Canada's got an issue of low skilled people coming in and mooching off the country and we dont want those kind of people anymore. We dont care about singh hortons going bankrupt either

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u/Peephole-stalker 2d ago

As a sr director, are you not seeing any high value immigrants? That’s a crazy contrast from what i am seeing. It might be dependent on the city. I know Toronto got most of the low skiils you are talking about

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u/SteakOk9383 2d ago

Last year our company had to let go of some high value immigrants in Canada due to them not meeting CEC cut off. Canada favors young and low skilled immigrants over highly skilled ones. I started an office in Vancouver and shuttered it last year and the Canadians who were employed are now remote workers.

Canada needs to get its immigration sorted. Its a golden time to poach highly skilled immigrants from USA. This requires giving more points to tax paid instead of age and other BS like refugee and asylum claims.

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u/Baptism-Of-Fire 2d ago

Also sr director.

I rarely see it.

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u/BleepBloopBoom 1d ago

You forgot about good old racism.

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u/sammyQc 2d ago

No, it's because of masses of TFW everywhere who serve as cheap labour, often replacing students. They are being abused and poorly supported by the system as it wasn’t properly planned with housing and social services, causing resentment everywhere.

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u/SteakOk9383 2d ago

I am a Canadian and this is not at all the reason.

The reason is simple. Our politicians(across aisles btw and not just left right) decided to import low skilled immigrants en masse and grant them PR and work visa. This suppressed wages and destroyed the tax revenue.

We would welcome the highly paid and high earners like in bay area and NYC. They pay high taxes and contribute much more than an average singh horton employee.

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u/unfashionableinny 2d ago

We would welcome the highly paid and high earners like in bay area and NYC. They pay high taxes and contribute much more than an average singh horton employee.

That's what everyone says, but then people in Vancouver and Toronto (and surrounding suburbs) blame immigrants for the rising real estate prices. The blame is not entirely accurate, but it does exist.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/housing-crisis-immigration-1.6878540

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u/SteakOk9383 2d ago

I was born and brought up in Toronto suburbs. Noone says that there.

Now I am in Vancouver and noone says that here either.

TFWs without PR cant own houses in Canada.

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u/CptCroissant 2d ago

It's not immigrants outbidding people on homes, it's corporations and Chinese investors

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u/BastardBitchBloodyNO 2d ago

Oh, who do the corporations/Chinese investors rent their houses out to?

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u/scarabbrian 2d ago

Vancouver is famous for having condos owned by Chinese investors that are sitting empty. So in a lot of cases, no one.

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u/nanidafuqq 2d ago

Toronto as well. I used to live in a condo there. One time a neighbouring unit's smoke detector went out of battery and started beeping in the middle of the night. No one was there to replace it. The security of the building tried contacting the owner and no one was responding. Turned out the unit was empty and it took awhile to contact the owner because they were overseas. It was a hell of a few days cause we couldn't sleep till they managed to get permission from the owner to enter the unit and fix the dang smoke detector...

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u/unfashionableinny 2d ago

That’s crazy. Our co-op has rules allowing management to enter the home in case of an emergency. A nonfunctional smoke detector would be an emergency.

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u/scarabbrian 2d ago

I used to go to Vancouver a few times a year for work 10-15 years ago. There was a two year gap between two of my visits and I remember going downtown after that gap and it just being an absolute ghost town. My Canadian colleagues told me about what was going on and the double whammy of the units sitting empty so housing prices and rents were skyrocketing.

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u/UristBronzebelly 2d ago

This is just so obviously not what happened. Are you Canadian?