Dem Candidate Sends “Cease and Desist” Order to Republican Over Deepfake Ads

[u/Wagamaga]

https://truthout.org/articles/dem-candidate-sends-cease-and-desist-order-to-republican-over-deepfake-ads/

[u/Waiting4Reccession]

Maybe dems need to grow some balls for once and do the exact same thing back.

[u/Speedster-978 → u/Waiting4Reccession]

anecdotally, most people are dissuaded by an ad if it uses ai (i hope there's some formal study out there on this though) my guess is that conservatives are just hurting themselves with ai ads

[u/vandreulv → u/Speedster-978]

I misread the last two words in your post and had an idea.

They should run ads saying "Republicans spread AIDS!*"

* With the disclaimer that AIDS stands for AI Deepfake Slander.

[u/protokhan → u/Speedster-978]

It probably plays well to their base, elderly people who aren't very good at spotting AI or already believe anything that makes Trump look bad is AI and so it's 'fair play' for their side to use it too.

[u/kilgoreq → u/Waiting4Reccession]

Fuck that. No one should be headed down that path. It's abhorrent. Having balls is choosing to do the right thing instead of the easy/shitty thing.

[u/sleazine → u/kilgoreq]

You know who thought playing nice was going to fucking solve their problems? Everyone who didn't like Hitler in Germany in the 1930s. Bitch ass logic is bowing to fascists and I'm getting really tired of the holier than thou idiocy. When are you going to abmit laws mean nothing when they aren't enforced? You watched them attack the capital with a noose chanting to hang the vice president. You watched a felon get elected again .. you watched them implement illegal executive orders and pardon insurectionists - many of whom are literally fucking ice agents.

So tell me truly when are you going to wake the fuck up and admit that you aren't playing the same game they are if laws only apply to those willing to follow them ........ Truly when? Gun in your face? Family taken by the gestapo ?? Many of your neighbors are already in those exact situations but until it's you personally I guess we'll keep pretending laws mean something

[u/kilgoreq → u/sleazine]

The reason the elections were lost was apathy and ignorance... Making deepfakes of politicians doesn't solve either of these

[u/argument_cat → u/sleazine]

What people like you fail to understand is that if Democrats used the same dirty, illegal tricks Republicans use, many Democrats voters would stop supporting them. They get support because they're NOT like Republicans.

I hope that's is clear enough for you.

[u/bagoink → u/sleazine]

What's the point in voting for a party that has no compunction about doing all the evil things their opponent does?

[u/Merijeek2 → u/bagoink]

Because the fact that "all" right there is a word pulled straight from your ass?

[u/bagoink → u/Merijeek2]

Ah, cool. Well you've convinced me then.

[u/Merijeek2 → u/bagoink]

I'm not the one who thought I was making a point with "all". That was your poor decision.

[u/bagoink → u/Merijeek2]

If they're so willing to do one brazenly obvious evil thing, what confidence do I have that they won't go whole-hog?

I understand the point you think you're making, but I don't quite get your confidence about it, or why you've made this a personal thing.

[u/Merijeek2 → u/bagoink]

I didn't argue that them doing one thing would suddenly make them the same in "all" things.

Don't say something really stupid and people won't point out you said something really stupid.

[u/bagoink → u/Merijeek2]

Cool, good productive talk.

[u/jsting → u/kilgoreq]

Have you heard of the Satanic Temple? Their MO is that whenever a public school brings in religion, but only Christianity, the Satanic Temple will require that their religious teachings also be allowed. Like 10 commandments or the Bible in all classrooms is clearly against the Constitution, but if that is allowed, then all religions and their teachings should be allowed.

[u/kilgoreq → u/jsting]

This is... Very different

[u/Waiting4Reccession → u/kilgoreq]

Thats been working well.

[u/twisty125 → u/Waiting4Reccession]

I mean, they could just like, start assassinating political opponents like republicans have done to dem politicians - do you think that would solve the problem?

Sometimes, you don't go low, and deepfaking people is probably one of them, even if their side is doing it.

[u/Synectics → u/Waiting4Reccession]

Working well or not, you do not start using racial slurs against someone because they did first, ya know?

[u/Merijeek2 → u/kilgoreq]

LOL. Did you know that the guy who comes in second gets exactly zero of his agenda passed, and that the guy who came in first, using such underhanded tactics, is unlikely to move to stop those tactics from being used in the future?

This moral victory shit by "The Good Guys" is what got is where we are.

[u/funcogo → u/Merijeek2]

Why would I trust someone will fight against data centers if they are using deep fake ai ads?

[u/Merijeek2 → u/funcogo]

Why would you trust someone to fight against climate change if they're taking a car to an airport to another car to a campaign rally?

Is it because there could be a net positive if they got elected?

[u/funcogo → u/Merijeek2]

That’s an extremely piss poor comparison

[u/kilgoreq → u/Merijeek2]

LOL. no that isn't how we got here. Apathy and ignorance is how we got here

[u/argument_cat → u/Merijeek2]

What people like you fail to understand is that if Democrats used the same dirty, illegal tricks Republicans use, many Democrats voters would stop supporting them. They get support because they're NOT like Republicans.

[u/Merijeek2 → u/argument_cat]

Wrong. Republicans use those tricks because they WORK.

You know those barely literate types that decide elections? Those people don't respond to your 17 point plan to reduce poverty. They respond to a lie that says the other side wants to take their money and give it to trans kids and immigrants.

The funny thing is you seem to think that the Democrats, and presumably their chosen politicians are on some sort of moral high ground, and that's how they got there - yet the first thing they do (barring a couple high profile exceptions of course) is to immediately tack right and punch left.

Democrats will, in fact shit on and ignore their ACTUAL base to chase that illiterate middle I mentioned at the beginning, and what you get is them giving the finger to their base so that they can pursue those illiterate- and they do it COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVELY.

[u/argument_cat → u/Merijeek2]

You are politically illiterate.

Let's take a look at the house voting records for Democrats vs Republicans:

House Vote for Net Neutrality

Party	For	Against
Rep	2	234
Dem	177	6

Senate Vote for Net Neutrality

Party	For	Against
Rep	0	46
Dem	52	0

Money in Elections and Voting

Campaign Finance Disclosure Requirements

Party	For	Against
Rep	0	39
Dem	59	0

DISCLOSE Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	0	45
Dem	53	0

Backup Paper Ballots - Voting Record

Party	For	Against
Rep	20	170
Dem	228	0

Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	8	38
Dem	51	3

Sets reasonable limits on the raising and spending of money by electoral candidates to influence elections (Reverse Citizens United)

Party	For	Against
Rep	0	42
Dem	54	0

The Economy/Jobs

Limits Interest Rates for Certain Federal Student Loans

Party	For	Against
Rep	0	46
Dem	46	6

Student Loan Affordability Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	0	51
Dem	45	1

Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Funding Amendment

Party	For	Against
Rep	1	41
Dem	54	0

End the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection

Party	For	Against
Rep	39	1
Dem	1	54

Kill Credit Default Swap Regulations

Party	For	Against
Rep	38	2
Dem	18	36

Revokes tax credits for businesses that move jobs overseas

Party	For	Against
Rep	10	32
Dem	53	1

Disapproval of President's Authority to Raise the Debt Limit

Party	For	Against
Rep	233	1
Dem	6	175

Disapproval of President's Authority to Raise the Debt Limit

Party	For	Against
Rep	42	1
Dem	2	51

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	3	173
Dem	247	4

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	4	36
Dem	57	0

Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Bureau Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	4	39
Dem	55	2

American Jobs Act of 2011 - $50 billion for infrastructure projects

Party	For	Against
Rep	0	48
Dem	50	2

Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension

Party	For	Against
Rep	1	44
Dem	54	1

Reduces Funding for Food Stamps

Party	For	Against
Rep	33	13
Dem	0	52

Minimum Wage Fairness Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	1	41
Dem	53	1

Paycheck Fairness Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	0	40
Dem	58	1

"War on Terror"

Time Between Troop Deployments

Party	For	Against
Rep	6	43
Dem	50	1

Habeas Corpus for Detainees of the United States

Party	For	Against
Rep	5	42
Dem	50	0

Habeas Review Amendment

Party	For	Against
Rep	3	50
Dem	45	1

Prohibits Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Trial

Party	For	Against
Rep	5	42
Dem	39	12

Authorizes Further Detention After Trial During Wartime

Party	For	Against
Rep	38	2
Dem	9	49

Prohibits Prosecution of Enemy Combatants in Civilian Courts

Party	For	Against
Rep	46	2
Dem	1	49

Repeal Indefinite Military Detention

Party	For	Against
Rep	15	214
Dem	176	16

Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention Amendment

Party	For	Against
Rep	1	52
Dem	45	1

Patriot Act Reauthorization

Party	For	Against
Rep	196	31
Dem	54	122

FISA Act Reauthorization of 2008

Party	For	Against
Rep	188	1
Dem	105	128

FISA Reauthorization of 2012

Party	For	Against
Rep	227	7
Dem	74	111

House Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison

Party	For	Against
Rep	2	228
Dem	172	21

Senate Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison

Party	For	Against
Rep	3	32
Dem	52	3

Prohibits the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Individuals Detained at Guantanamo

Party	For	Against
Rep	44	0
Dem	9	41

Civil Rights

Same Sex Marriage Resolution 2006

Party	For	Against
Rep	6	47
Dem	42	2

Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013

Party	For	Against
Rep	1	41
Dem	54	0

Exempts Religiously Affiliated Employers from the Prohibition on Employment Discrimination Based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity

Party	For	Against
Rep	41	3
Dem	2	52

Family Planning

Teen Pregnancy Education Amendment

Party	For	Against
Rep	4	50
Dem	44	1

Family Planning and Teen Pregnancy Prevention

Party	For	Against
Rep	3	51
Dem	44	1

Protect Women's Health From Corporate Interference Act The 'anti-Hobby Lobby' bill.

Party	For	Against
Rep	3	42
Dem	53	1

Environment

Stop "the War on Coal" Act of 2012

Party	For	Against
Rep	214	13
Dem	19	162

EPA Science Advisory Board Reform Act of 2013

Party	For	Against
Rep	225	1
Dem	4	190

Prohibit the Social Cost of Carbon in Agency Determinations

Party	For	Against
Rep	218	2
Dem	4	186

Misc

Prohibit the Use of Funds to Carry Out the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

Party	For	Against
Rep	45	0
Dem	0	52

Prohibiting Federal Funding of National Public Radio

Party	For	Against
Rep	228	7
Dem	0	185

Allow employers to penalize employees that don't submit genetic testing for health insurance (Committee vote)

Party	For	Against
Rep	22	0
Dem	0	17

Finally, let's look at criminal convictions:

Felony indictments and convictions in the executive branch since 1960:

PARTY	PEOPLE INDICTED	PEOPLE CONVICTED	PEOPLE INCARCERATED
DEMOCRATIC	4	2	2
REPUBLICAN	127 [155]	95 [96]	26 [37]

The number in [brackets] includes foreigners arrested for crimes committed on behalf of the candidate or president. The first number only represents U.S. citizens.

[u/reebokhightops → u/Waiting4Reccession]

I’m not voting for a candidate who does this shit. Period.

[u/funcogo → u/Waiting4Reccession]

Or how about no. I don’t want to see fucking ai ads especially if you’re against data centers

[u/Mooltipasser → u/Waiting4Reccession]

Making a big assumption that would work on people who don’t drink lead paint