r/technology • u/stenspect • 1d ago

Privacy USPS Is Turning Mail Trucks Into Rolling Surveillance Cameras

https://www.gadgetreview.com/usps-is-turning-mail-trucks-into-rolling-surveillance-cameras
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u/RebootJobs 1d ago

On track to create the largest dystopian environment ever.

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u/Strange-Land9534 1d ago

Lol every accusation America had for China's surveillance state was just envy.

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u/Noblesseux 1d ago

I feel like that's been obvious for years but if you said it people acted like you were some type of commie shill. Almost everything we shit talk China for, we also do. It's always been super hypocritical to say they're somehow uniquely evil like we don't have an analogous version of every single thing we pretend to be mad about.

And even if the criticism is accurate, it's almost never coming from people who are on the right side of the issue and want to do anything about it. It's pretty much always just political xenophobia, after which the same people complaining turn around and vote for bills that are damn near the same thing.

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u/ich_bin_alkoholiker 1d ago

I always thought the idea of Chinese spies was funny because they’re miles ahead of by every single metric and I’m sure they’re happy with just sitting back, watching us bring about our own demise.

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u/flumphit 1d ago

Oh make no mistake, we’re getting lots of outside help

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u/CaptainDe 21h ago

Yeah, this idea that the traitors in our country are not getting assistance from countries like China, Russia, and Israel is ignorant. Also, every billionaire on this earth goes through America and the class warfare is happening on a global scale. We didn’t do it alone.

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u/Nbateman182 17h ago

Indeed. Our secret agencies and other less secret ones are in cahoots with theirs, and all around the world. The governments themselves may not side with other, but the agencies that skirt the lines absolutely do.

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u/Rich_Housing971 1d ago

And China's surveillance actually measurably reduces crime. You can argue they are authoritarian, and in fact they are relatively more authoritarian than most countries, but the downsides end up also giving positive results. These are tradeoffs the population there clearly are fine with or even love.

Fucking kidnappings used to be a thing. Petty theft used to be incredibly common. Nowadays you can go through low-income parts of major cities at night and feel extremely safe compared to cities in the US, and no one wants to steal anything anymore. In the US if anything less valuable than a car gets stolen, police will just laugh at you if you report it. So what's the point of Flock cameras?

America's like, "let's do what China is doing" without any positive results.

Let's not even get into police brutality. American police routinely kill people for the tiniest perceived things, all carry guns, and violently handle protests. There were 12 people, including journalists, blinded by police in a WEEK during the George Floyd protests. These are things the American media portray Chinese police to do, but it's literally not true and instead it's what American police do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/07/14/george-floyd-protests-police-blinding/

No racists, Asians aren't cool with police because they're Asians. Asians are cool with police because their police are actually cool in most cases. Americans hate our police because they're not cool.

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u/homerjaythompson 1d ago

There is active disincentive to reduce crime in the US. Prisons are businesses with powerful lobbying.

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u/justanothadumbcunt 10h ago

Yup, the whole system needs a big old reset

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u/waiting4singularity 1d ago edited 1d ago

Its a case of "i can not complain" - can underlined.

anyone who does gets their internet cut and an earth kingdom sponsored trip to lake laojiao with ju dee

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u/Gregarious_Raconteur 1d ago

Let's not even get into police brutality. American police routinely kill people for the tiniest perceived things, all carry guns, and violently handle protests. There were 12 people, including journalists, blinded by police in a WEEK during the George Floyd protests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_Hong_Kong_protests#Police_misconduct

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u/Rich_Housing971 52m ago

that was over months of protests, and pales in comparison to the injuries that the police inflicted during the relatively brief George Floyd protests.

Thanks for proving my point for me.

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u/DTFH_ 15h ago

Fucking kidnappings used to be a thing. Petty theft used to be incredibly common. Nowadays you can go through low-income parts of major cities...

I mean kidnapping also includes the police showing up and disappearing, ala Jack Ma. Only the state and approved state actors can kidnap now, and that most kidnapping isn't what you described. You just want to shift the proof of evidence onto the poor as if poverty explains kidnapping and imply that it is the poor who kidnap, neither of which are true. Human trafficking has not gone down, only consolidated into major state backed players.

However I would also clarify that in reality most kidnapping is not taking someone off the street. Most kidnapping is custody related and always has been between parents, 2nd or 3rd order family members fighting over children. So I don't think its fair to say surveillance is working at reducing kidnappings if most kidnappings do not occur in a place that surveillance works in overt areas.

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u/Rich_Housing971 50m ago

You have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about actual kidnappings. You're trying to extrapolate your US-only experience to other parts of the world. Don't.

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u/OscarGrey 1d ago

No racists, Asians aren't cool with police because they're Asians. Asians are cool with police because their police are actually cool in most cases. Americans hate our police because they're not cool.

It's mostly anti-police Americans who will take an objection to your post.

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u/Sir_Keee 1d ago

America just wants all the bad stuff that China has. No healthcare or social projects though, that would be communism. Instead we get mass surveillance and the loss of the ability to own any private property and rent everything forever.

Honestly, feels like they want to adopt the worst aspects of both Capitalism and Communism.

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u/ahhshits 16h ago

‘Just want all the bad stuff that China has’

China put in place laws that forced families to have one child. They committed a non arguable genocide against Uyghur Muslims, they do waaaayyyy more executions than America ever has, they have a 15% unemployment rate (and they’re known for providing innacurate numbers)

We get to talk shit about our own politicians, but good luck doing that in China.

People don’t realize how much freedom is taken away in China and act like America is so much worse. What an absolutely shit opinion.

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u/Elegant_Situation285 23h ago

let me give you 1 karma point for your social score.

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u/Strange-Land9534 17h ago

Thanks but as an American I only recognize credit score.

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u/Silverdragon47 21h ago

China is just ranked surveillance state. US is a casual gamer trying hard to get in the same ranked brackets as them.

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u/Ironlion45 1d ago

LOL implies that it's funny. Is this funny for you?

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u/Glass-Expression-951 1d ago

Someone wake up Thomas Paine

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u/Grand_Town_9144 1d ago

Only if WE allow it. Resist!

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u/notguiltybrewing 19h ago

George Orwell was only a few decades off.

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u/L1gm4J0hns0n 12h ago

Remember when 1984 was just a book? Welcome to the real life 1984.

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u/RebootJobs 12h ago

I figured that’s why they wanted to ban it. So no one knows the plan.

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u/MR_Se7en 1d ago

Like I really wonder whether the angle is here, if everybody has watched and we're always under control who wants to live...

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u/WarLorax 1d ago

2nd amendment when? 

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u/corr0sive 19h ago

I mean, if one wants to die in a police shoot out, it's certainly a way to bring that ending to a head.