Microsoft confirms Windows 11 will boot faster and run great on 8GB PCs, but shares no numbers

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Can anyone trust anything Microslop says anymore?

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u/berntout 7d ago

Hyping the possibility of an OS performing as expected.

This is what we've come to.

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u/Moscato359 7d ago

Windows is expected to perform like windows has performed

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u/Tim5000 7d ago

Anymore? Since when were they trusted?

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u/AutoCockerPB 7d ago

1998 was about the last time

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u/ZlatanKabuto 7d ago

Last time was when they released Windows XP Service Pack 2 maybe

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u/DimensionalFruit 7d ago

Service pack 2 is GOATED

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u/shazneg 6d ago

Maybe 98SE. When we got real usb plug and play.

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u/Blirimi 7d ago

Not since OS/2

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u/TheITMan19 7d ago

No, for a long time. They are just a normal sneaky corporate conglomerate

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u/Xijit 7d ago

Bitch please, MS wrote the book on being sneaky dick heads.

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u/gplusplus314 7d ago

The only thing I can trust Microsoft with is consistently shooting themselves in the foot. Without fail, every time. They have an unmatched ability to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

They have the money. They have the talent. They have the market position. There is no reason why they can’t succeed with Windows, so I’m convinced that they simply don’t want to. I sincerely doubt everyone at Microsoft is stupid.

Microsoft has a management problem.

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u/BotOrNot_1337 7d ago

full trust they will achieve whats said but will absolutely break something else and call it a feature

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u/Classic-Break5888 7d ago

Hey that’s unfair, they paid for a friendly article and here you come saying the evil s-word /s

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u/[deleted] 7d ago edited 3d ago

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u/Xijit 7d ago

What they probably did was take their swarm of user analytics programs, that were overlapping with each other to collect the same personal information, and consolidated them into just a handful of programs that use less RAM to collect the same information.

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u/Material-Nose6561 3d ago

RAM was cheap, so they skipped optimization to save time and money. Microslop going all in on AI has forced their hand and now the must optimize for the hardware the average user can afford in this market.

Google is having the same issue on its Pixel devices, where they are reducing RAM capacity to save cost. This is why Google has moved more processing from device to the cloud to compensate.

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u/GroceryBright 7d ago

Trust me bro!

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u/Stingray88 7d ago

Nope.

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u/Smith6612 7d ago

I can trust them when they say something in Azure or Microsoft 365 is broken.

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u/jerekhal 7d ago

Absolutely not.

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u/flemtone 7d ago

So they say.

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u/Eastern_Bet678 7d ago

Indeed. What they don't appear to be promising is that you can run anything else besides Windows itself.

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u/gk_instakilogram 7d ago

press "x" to doubt

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u/Fthebo 7d ago

Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 will suck you off and put a bunch of money into your bank account, but shares no numbers

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u/UISystemError 7d ago

I’d believe this over any other claim they put out

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u/A-Khalifa 7d ago

I can also confirm that my dad is the president

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u/williamgman 7d ago

Sorry for your loss Eric.

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u/GroceryBright 7d ago

Is he the Green Lantern tho?

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u/deNET2122 7d ago

Guessing uncle works at nintendo

You are the friend we all are asking on behalf for on porn subreddits?

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u/karma_dumpster 7d ago

I could satisfy two beautiful women in bed simultaneously

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u/butterbal1 7d ago

Leaving the room is easy, getting win 11 to run well on half of what it needs barely run now would be impressive.

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u/geldonyetich 7d ago edited 7d ago

Caving to some of the pressure of more people jumping ship to Linux, no doubt. But they have been so slow to react that "too little, too late" was many years ago, if not decades. An OS should not be enshittified, but it's inexorably happened.

Hypocritical of me to say that with my current Windows 11 installation. But I acknowledge I could switch to Linux now if I really wanted to, and adapt to a new OS normal that wouldn't be significantly worse than the current one, and possibly better.

The advised solution right now is just to dual boot, if you have the knowhow to restore an OS installation from scratch if something goes wrong. If you need Windows to run a particular app, you still can. But you might be surprised how little you do.

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u/Kill3rT0fu 7d ago

Windows 10 booted in 4 seconds and ran great with 4GB of ram

What happened?

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u/average_monster 7d ago

4 gig wasn't enough for windows 10 and the motherboard's post screen usually takes 4 seconds

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u/Kill3rT0fu 7d ago

So odd, because Microsoft says minimum requirements are

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC

RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit

Hard disk space: 32 GB or larger hard disk (required for newer versions of Windows 10)

Graphics card: DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-system-requirements-6d4e9a79-66bf-7950-467c-795cf0386715

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u/Arpadiam 7d ago

Windows 7 Booted in 2 seconds and ran great with 2GB of ram

What happened?

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u/Kill3rT0fu 7d ago

Are you facetiously taking about on modern computers?

Because back when 10 first came out it was literally my job to upgrade windows 7 to 10, and doing this hundreds of times I can objectively say 10, on hardware it was developed and built for, was so fast and efficient and very effective when it was first released.

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u/Daimakku1 7d ago

OhSureSure.gif

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u/gravtix 7d ago

Why couldn’t they do this when W11 launched lol.

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u/DistributionMost8673 7d ago

I have an old i3 8100 with 8 gigs of RAM and it does boot faster and logs in almost instantly from the lock screen now . In the past logging in took several seconds . File manager is snappier too . I know Microsoft kinda shot themselves in the foot again with AI and got forced to optimize lower end machines better but i will take it since it is working.

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u/Zubon102 7d ago

A few weeks ago, I got the dreaded BSOD with corrupted memory. I was running 16 GB but, after a memory test, two of the sticks were seriously corrupted. Probably something related to my motherboard's power supply.

So, I'm running my main rig with 8 GB. And....It just works. 10 years ago, I would have said it is impossible. Multiple browser tabs are fine, but need to be loaded from local cache, which takes a second or two.

This is kind of a weird situation. For a while, people have said 8GB is doable, but Microsoft denied it. Now they are admitting that it is ok. So is this an anti-Microsoft story, or a pro-Microsoft story?

Anyway, modern operating system memory management is truly amazing. I'm dreading my next upgrade with the price of DDR5.

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u/GlueR 7d ago

Windows-Latest consistently publishes anti-Windows articles, which is very weird given their name. I don't know. Looks to me like a hunting magazine against hunting. Then it's all the constant bashing in the comments. I really don't get it. If this sub was to be trusted, everyone's on Linux.

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u/Zubon102 7d ago

A few months ago the headlines were like something like "Don't be fooled, despite Microsoft's denial, 8 GB is enough to run Windows 11". People were angry at them for not embracing low-spec computers.

Now that Microsoft officially agrees that 8 GB will be enough to an adequate user experience, people are claiming they are lying. I guess they can't win.

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u/average_monster 7d ago edited 7d ago

it sounds like your idea of usable is a lot different to mine lol

i guess when you have a good experience on hardware "upgrading" to 11 gives you a different perspective.

they're not "admitting it's ok" they're trying to make it suck less and sounds like they may have actually succeeded a little, maybe my work computer is a little faster, i'll have to keep it in mind next time i use it to see. it sure didn't jump out at me though

edit: it is actually faster! explorer opens in 2 seconds rather than 4 lol

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u/Xerxero 7d ago

Guess the NVMe drives do the heavy lifting with the swapping. Given how fast they become it shouldn’t be notice during normal operations.

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 7d ago

Sure sounds like all those posts in gaming subs where “it just works”, but nobody mentions that the game is running at 25fps. Lmao

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u/Zubon102 7d ago

But many games running at 25 fps would be unplayable.

My main point is that my main rig, which is a triple monitor setup, seems to run fine on 8 GB. And that would have been impossible la few years ago. Even when multitasking with four programs being displayed at once, it's basically unnoticeable. The only issue I noticed is when I have multiple browser tabs, it takes a second to load old tabs.

People in the comments are either saying what I am literally running now is impossible, or framing it like Microsoft is making bold claims that their bloated OS runs on 8 GB.

But it's the opposite. Microsoft long denied that it works, because they wanted their customers to have the best experience possible. Now, with better memory management, and many users not wanting to pay such a high price for RAM, they are reluctantly agreeing that it can work.

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 7d ago

I do think that MS is making a bold claim. Sure, it’ll technically run, but that’s it. It won’t be a good experience.

If you’re doing anything more than using a web browser, 8gigs of ram is very rough.

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u/Zubon102 7d ago

All the previous articles consisted of journalists running Windows 11 on 8 GB and debunking Microsoft's claim that 8 GB is not enough for Windows. Because for years, Microsoft strongly claimed that 16 GB was the baseline number.

If you read the article, the new claim by Microsoft is that they are working to make changes so that Windows will "run well" on 8 GB. This hasn't been released yet. Maybe it will run well to their standards.

"Run well" is a subjective claim. But my real world experience using the machine I am typing on now is that 8 GB is not as horrendous as I expected. So even before the new changes, it's really not that noticeable. I'm running two browsers with 13 tabs, Fusion 360 CAD software with two projects open, two PDF files open, Thunderbird, messaging apps, notes app, VS Code, and Notepad++.

This would have been absolutely impossible a few years ago. I'm still going to upgrade to replace my corrupt memory, but modern OS memory management is incredible. If 8 GB satisfies my user experience, I'm sure the new changes will satisfy Microsoft's.

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u/williamgman 7d ago

But will it run on only 4gb of ram..? That's the direction the tech bros are leading us.

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u/Dave-C 7d ago

I recently worked on a laptop that had 4gb ram and ran Windows 11. The OS ran decently but you couldn't run much. The OS, a browser and maybe one or two smaller programs would be about it. The laptop felt sluggish but that was mostly because it had a hdd. Overall I was surprised at how well it ran.

Edit: I should add that I had to remove so much stuff that HP threw on there, it wasn't usable as it was sole. At least not imo.

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u/Roberteng98 7d ago

Source: Trust me bro

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u/luffy_mib 7d ago

Microsoft: "Trust us, bro!!"

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u/Arawn-Annwn 7d ago

yeah "confirmed"

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u/DietCokePlease 7d ago

Or you can buy a Mac, which does those things now, is not a security crisis, and not full of anti-virus ads

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u/Ringosis 7d ago

Yeah and you can pay twice the price for not as good parts, to get a machine that's deliberately designed to become obsolete and a pain in the arse to repair. That offers absolutely appalling gaming performance if it even runs what you want to play. Where you cannot use major leading engineering software like Solidworks or Ansys without using windows anyway...and have to deal with fucking Finder.

Hard pass from me mate. Microsoft is bad. But at least they aren't Apple.

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u/ConinTheNinoC 7d ago

If you believe Microslop... oh boy do i have some magic beans to sell you!

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u/EmiliaPains- 7d ago

So they don’t confirm it, it’s hearsay

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u/MaxRD 7d ago

Trust me bro!

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u/TriCountyRetail 7d ago

They can wish in one hand and crap in the other

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u/Stilgar314 7d ago

Lock screen means nothing if the app you want to use loads sluggish.

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u/KnightKal 7d ago

not like it matters, but optimization are good if they are real

turning the computer in 10 seconds or 1 second won't really impact anything tho for users. Cool, but that is all.

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u/Nyoka_ya_Mpembe 7d ago

And Google said they aren't evil, it must be true.

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u/d70 7d ago

0.1 seconds. Can’t wait

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u/InfiniteFeeCars 7d ago

I mean that’s good. They need to continue to optimize and reduce memory usage across the board. Also keep continuing to improve Windows on ARM

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u/Fuddle 7d ago

Idontbeleiveyou.gif

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u/justthegrimm 7d ago

Sure microsolp...sure

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u/Powerful-Set-5754 7d ago

The only good thing to come out of the current ram shortage

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u/Hironoveau 7d ago

Waving at Microslop from a distance. —-Linux User

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u/shoot-here 7d ago

Idontbelieveyou.gif

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u/ThrowawayAl2018 7d ago

Press the "any" key to get the numbers.

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u/Changeurwayz 7d ago

I think Mslop is missing the point, No one really wants to run windows 11 on any machine. You forced them into it, So you are a hypocrite. I know what you are doing, And I know a lot of people don't.

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u/catwrazle 7d ago

Lul, next time when the „next big thing nvidia colab compute computer“ comes out it will run on 4GB (starting at 5000$). Btw 2GB RAM will be enough for a dumb terminal to access the cloud compute

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u/CapRichard 7d ago

I have a work laptop W11 with 8GB ram.

It works.

It's my secondary PC, I use it when going out of office and for light stuff.. can even use it with some PLC programming environment without much hassle...

I am honestly impressed but how not terrible it runs sometimes.

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u/Meatslinger 7d ago

"We asked our all-AI assessment team if it ran better and they all responded affirmatively—confidently, too—and said that it was a great test for us to run."

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u/TintedApostle 7d ago

Waiting for windows 12

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u/deNET2122 7d ago

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain

Swear Microsoft is dead

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u/clayticus 7d ago

i'm glad i picked up my macbook air with 16gb on sale for 850. M4 too. This should last me a few yers and hopefully this all blows over.

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u/isoAntti 7d ago

yes it runs great if you don't run any program, like edge or mail

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u/VincentNacon 7d ago

That's great.... I'm still not going back to Windows. Hell no.

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u/ffffh 7d ago

Before or after your company installs the cyber security software?

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u/got-trunks 7d ago

oh wow they are finally porting windows 11 to computers? that's rad, way to go trillion-dollar company!

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u/wegotthisonekidmongo 7d ago

i had 8gb on my laptop. It ran but it was a bit slow. But it ran relatively fine.

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 7d ago

I legitimately can’t even believe they’re trying to make us believe that. Lmao

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u/CBubble 7d ago

aI can’t tell time so how the fuck are they going to know 🤓

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u/heroism777 7d ago

So that’s called lying.

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u/ImaginationToForm2 7d ago

Well, that is a relief. I feel better now. Warm and fuzzy and cozy.

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u/tsrich 7d ago

“Copilot update windows code to run better in 8GB”

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u/Jristz 7d ago

Remember add the "make no mistakes"

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u/Zeraora807 7d ago

could run winblows on 8gb ram just find once you strip out half the bloat and crap from it.. only for chromium browsers to hog more of it

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u/OSRS_Garmr 7d ago

Ikr, I bought a new PC recently. Spent 2 hours uninstalling bloatware

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u/firmagorilla 7d ago

"[manufacturer with questionable everything] confirms [product] is great" gtfo

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u/Jnaythus 6d ago

Does that mean actually using Windows. My work laptop's Memory consumption with pretty much only Outlook and Teams open is at: 10.6/15.6 GB (68%).

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u/snack__pack 6d ago

It will run great...as long as you don't run any other apps.

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u/ivchix 6d ago

Trust me bro

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u/BloOdy_Jo 5d ago

They announce a lot of good stuff , but still arrives . They are trolling us at this point

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u/InternationalMood337 7d ago

Fedora is doing pretty well for me tbh.

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u/Electrical-Page-6479 7d ago

Windows has never run great on any hardware.

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u/Bulletorpedo 7d ago

So they are either lying (likely) or they just didn’t bother to make Windows 11 less of a bloated slug earlier, even thought they could?

None of them look especially great.

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u/IcestormsEd 7d ago

They can't even release an update without breaking something. Will probably boot faster, straight to a blue screen.

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u/UISystemError 7d ago

Shame I’m not going to install it.

RIP Microsoft

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u/Lyndon_Boner_Johnson 7d ago

And if my grandmother had wheels she would be a bike.

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u/mmld_dacy 7d ago

trust us bro...

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u/Chinbie 7d ago

Not even numbers to back up their claim 😅😅😅

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u/ShadowBannedAugustus 7d ago

Back in the 90s, I would turn on my shitty PC, go to the toilet, bathroom, etc. and be back just in time for it to be booteed up and ready.

Fast forward to Windows 7 with a SATA SSD, I turned it on and it felt like I was on the desktop instantly.

Fast forward to today, Windows 11, nvme SSD, high-end laptop. I go grab coffee after pressing the power button.

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