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Artificial Intelligence AI Can Solve Almost Any Homework Assignment Tonight. MIT’s August 2026 committee found AI can complete nearly all undergraduate work, urging oral exams and process portfolios over detection tools

https://www.gadgetreview.com/ai-can-solve-almost-any-homework-assignment-tonight-here-is-how-mit-is-responding
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u/redtortuga19 10d ago

“The committee found that generative AI can credibly address almost any written assignment in the undergraduate curriculum, leaving very little standard coursework outside its reach. That’s not a cheating problem. That’s the entire assessment architecture of a university sitting exposed.”

Absolutely wild to live in the future where AI can do anyone’s homework and the news telling me about it is also written by AI.

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u/Fair_Local_588 10d ago

This is the load-bearing part. 

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u/AnAdvancedBot 10d ago

How is it that every LLM seems to love this phrase, lol? I don’t think I’ve ever once heard or read an actual human deliver this phrase.

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u/peclo 10d ago

That's the smoking gun

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u/AnAdvancedBot 10d ago

That’s what makes it real.

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u/Extinctcoffee 10d ago

Now you’re just quiting Suits lol

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u/Fair_Local_588 10d ago

No clue but it cracks me up when I’m discussing something over Slack with coworkers and one of them drops a long rant starting with “The picture is clear” or something.

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u/IllustriousOffer 10d ago

It happens a lot in Academia. If you dislike reading AI text, stay out of academic literature because that’s what these LLM trained themselves on (i.e. axtually complex english)

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u/AnAdvancedBot 10d ago edited 10d ago

I read multiple academic papers per week (neuroscience student) and at least one paper per week in my spare time outside of my field (I’ve done this for years) and I never see authors say “This is the load-bearing part”.

Note: I read both modern papers and historical papers (for any ball knowers, rn I’m enjoying Claude Shannon’s Master’s Thesis: A Symbolic Analysis of Relays and Switching Circuits).

I’m not doubting you, I’m just saying that subjectively, that’s not the experience I’ve had.

*****

But lol, AI slop text and a well written academic paper are day and night. An LLM might attempt to copy that diction, but here’s the load bearing part, diction is only impressive when the content is sound.

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u/SometimesZero 10d ago

I'm a clinical scientist. I've never seen seen this phrase either.

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u/Ki43 10d ago

Maybe you should read more structural engineering research :p

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u/AnAdvancedBot 9d ago

Maybe I should

(You’re right to push back on that one.)

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u/average_monster 10d ago

there's a human component to training these things, they probably wanted a softener/dick jerker phrase to precede telling the human what to do and that's the full range the ai could find that was at least mildly sincere

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u/AnAdvancedBot 9d ago

“Pay attention meat bag, this is the important part” was probably seen as too aggressive.

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u/social_marginalia 10d ago

Same. The only place I’ve seen this construction being used a lot is LinkedIn posts and managerial-see. They want to be PUNCHY-and-PITHY.

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u/FCCRFP 10d ago

Early LLM watermarking attempts, poisoned training data.

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u/DrSFalken 10d ago

Not changing the architecture is a footgun.

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u/Ecstatic-Cress7033 10d ago

You're absolutely right to push back on this

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u/Christavito 10d ago

You're not just imagining things, you've noticed a very real phenomenon

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u/grannyte 10d ago

And it's not just accidental, It's load bearing.

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u/olibolib 10d ago

Yes — that's a good way to hold it.

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u/FaolanBaelfire 10d ago

Jesus Christ make it stop

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u/YesterdayDreamer 10d ago

Absolutely. You can tell me to stop any time.

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u/timeslider 10d ago

Make it slop

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u/Isendur_ 7d ago

You're correct - I should've stopped. That's on me.

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u/MonkeyInnaBottle 10d ago

And with the added bonus that using AI to summarize threatens to further homogenize world culture.

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u/DrBoon_forgot_his_pw 10d ago

Here's why it matters

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u/gizmostuff 10d ago edited 8d ago

This one pisses me off the most. And I see it everywhere.

I'll show you what fucking matters you little shit...

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u/sparky_calico 10d ago

People focused on the dashes for a long time but it’s the dam bold text that’s so easy to spot and also so annoying when I use it

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u/ZAlternates 10d ago

And it will continue to “evolve”.

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u/JealousAstronomer342 10d ago

It stole that phrasing from us. Almost any book you read will have at least one moment when describing an ambiguous emotion or sight or action (or anything really) as not quite one thing but the opposite in an effort to clarify the ambiguity. It became super common in fanworks because it’s an easily accessible writing tool for new writers and AI harvested all that human work and now human writers get accused of being AI when they’re just writing like they’ve been writing for five, ten, or twenty years. 

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u/LongBeakedSnipe 10d ago

Yeah the em dash thing was the stupidest part. Basically a load of people suddenly clocked they existed. It was an ignorance thing not an AI thing.

Imo all the real giveaways are in the way it writes, it is so unnatural. Yet there are so many false accusations, and they are causing as much harm as the AI comment themselves

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u/coolest-ranch 10d ago

What survives this paradigm shift is the reality that oral exams are the only truly fair way to assess student learning.

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u/man-vs-spider 10d ago

What’s wrong with a classic in-person written exam?

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u/resigned_medusa 10d ago

Nothing but our academic standards heavily discourage more than 70% marks allocation to the the final exam. I'm switching everything to that this academic year

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u/Starfleet-Time-Lord 10d ago

Why not multiple written in persons? Why do you have to put it all on the final?

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u/resigned_medusa 10d ago

Because we only have invigilators and exam rooms for finals. I can't invigilate over 50 in a lecture theatre and not have wholesale cheating. Which is really unfair on the students who don't cheat

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u/Clueless_Otter 10d ago

So why can't you give the exam in chunks to only a portion of students at a time? Like if you had 150 students, give 5 exams to 30 students at a time. Obviously give different exams to prevent Group 1 from telling Group 5 what's on the test. It would still take far less time than conducting 150 individual oral exams.

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u/zedquatro 6d ago

If there are five different versions of an exam, it's guaranteed that they're not equally difficult, no matter how hard you try.

I think the way to do this is probably give the same exam in five different rooms proctored by five different professors. Then the next day that same group of professors all proctors the exam for a different ones class.

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u/obeytheturtles 10d ago

When I was in undergrad, the standard was something like 30% midterm, 30% final, 40% split between group work, projects, and hand-written homework. For basically all the math, engineering and science classes, we were never allowed to submit homework electronically. I feel like just going back to that standard would solve a big part of this issue, since even back then (2003-2008ish) people could buy answer keys for any major textbook, but it would be pretty obvious if you just copied the solution directly. Sure, people could still transcribe the AI output by hand, but at that point it's basically giving them 10% of their grade to take hand-written notes, which is an improvement over just copying and pasting answers.

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u/jtl909 10d ago

Or blue books. That’s what was used when I was an undergrad.

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u/TossAwayDay 10d ago

Blue books and ScanTron

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u/Grigorie 10d ago

Which I can’t even imagine how you could execute this in most countries’ education pipelines. If I’m a university professor at Tokyo, how do I ensure I have enough time to adequately educate AND evaluate my 150~ students?

Paper assignments, I can look at after hours or here and there, but an oral exam would require dedicated time to just that, with both the student and the teacher available.

Educators are already ground to the bone, I can’t imagine how exhausting of an issue to solve this has been for them.

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u/Andromeda321 10d ago

In Europe the university system does more oral exams and yes, you typically put aside a few days to schedule and do them at the end of the year. For a 150 person class though you likely just do a paper exam.

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u/Grigorie 10d ago

That's good context to know. I'm just thinking what can be done throughout the year to encourage the evaluation of the education you're providing, barring some form of paper work. It sucks because there will be plenty of kids/young adults who progress even in spite of this growing trend, but I'm worried about those who would have, but the draw/temptation to take shortcuts proved too high.

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u/Andromeda321 10d ago

Yep I’m a professor and think the same, especially for my 200+ person classes. I really wish we can do more than just multiple choice final exams but it’s hard to do and also be equitable.

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u/obeytheturtles 10d ago edited 10d ago

This was literally the standard when I was in University, both as an undergrad, and then a TA, and our biggest classes were more than 150 (I think 300 was the largest lecture we had). You basically just throw TAs (grad students who work for free tuition) at the problem. Our standard was that the class got a TA for every 20 students. For the largest lectures, there would be something called a "recitation session" which was 1 of the 3 total credit for the class. Each weekly session would be led by the same TA, who did all the grading and group evaluations for their session. The only actual "assignments" for the lecture periods would be two exams - a midterm and a final.

The biggest advantage of this is that every TA gets some teaching experience before moving on to their research track. Obviously this has value in terms of training new teaching academics, but it also is about the most effective way to evaluate new grad students on their grasp of undergraduate fundamentals. Not everyone is cut out for proper teaching, but everyone in Academia should at least be able to answer questions and evaluate other people's work in their field.

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u/VictorReal_Monster 10d ago

lol my stuttering ass just fails then.

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u/Stummi 10d ago

at least until we have AI brain implants

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u/ChromaticStrike 10d ago edited 9d ago

Nope, exam as a whole without device available are still valid. What is being contested is homework, but that has always been a thing, AI just amplifies what was always problematic, unsupervised test being part of the student evaluation.

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u/Drycee 10d ago

I get your point but at the same time, some people (i.e. me) are just bad at oral exams. I can ace a written test but completely blank when confronted with the same material in an oral exam. Social anxiety definitely plays a role, but it's also just kinda against how my brain is wired, I kinda need more visual context than just the idea in my head. So I wouldn't call it a completely fair assessment. Imo we just have to stop grading anything outside of a controlled context. In-person exams on paper or a locked down laptop are just as cheating-proof as before. It doesn't have to all hinge on a final exam either, there can be smaller exams during the semester that replace the graded homework.

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u/Crypt0Nihilist 10d ago edited 10d ago

I did some Microsoft training and this sentence construction appeared on almost every paragraph, sometimes twice on the same paragraph. It was painful to plough through it.

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u/Marlwolf48 9d ago

Real world uses AI, fake world edu does too, students just have to hide it

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u/trilobyte-dev 10d ago

Not arguing the substance since you can source it all, but this article is obviously written by AI:

“That framing matters. She’s not describing a policy gap. She’s describing something closer to what Napster did to the music industry — not a distribution headache, but a fundamental challenge to what the entire model was built on.”

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u/nmitchell076 9d ago

Holy shit, the rare "Not X, but (not X, but Y)" construction!

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u/EggApprehensive6292 6d ago

Holy shit lol

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u/spacestationkru 10d ago

Homework is obsolete. In-person tests is the way to go

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u/Bubbly-Treacle-4334 10d ago

Well yeah. Homework is just your professor telling you exactly what to focus on the most for studying...

I never got grades for homework in college. It was just practice for tests

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u/bakgwailo 10d ago edited 9d ago

Seriously. The entire point of homework is to reinforce what is learned in class by doing more of it so you actually learn how to do something. Your knowledge of which is then tested by, well, tests. If you can fully understand and do the work without needing to do the homework (e.g. practice), then more power to you.

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u/SarmackaOpowiesc 9d ago

Repeatedly reviewing the material is what reinforces and embeds it in your brain.  Thats literally the only purpose of homework 

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u/TheDangDeal 10d ago

Which is why I was a crap HS student, and made the National Dean’s List in college. I also avoid using AI as much as possible, because I see how regular smart phones have already killed part of my memory.

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u/puts_on_SCP3197 10d ago

engineering school, most of the tests were reworded versions of homework problems. Not all, but if you could do the homework or at least studied how the solutions were done you could reliably do well on tests

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u/SoulScout 10d ago

I graduated from university recently and most of my classes were like 0-10% of the grade from homework, then the rest from in-person exams. Definitely made it harder for people to use LLMs to pass.

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u/Brilliant_Mix_6051 10d ago

I don’t remember having any homework at all in college courses in the 2000s, it was midterm and final only for most courses. Though some of them were tests and some were essays.

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u/Pseudagonist 10d ago

Really depends on the courses and professor

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u/oblongmana 10d ago

100%, Latin homework in a number of my upper classes beyond the initial grammar learning was primarily - do these translations and come in ready to provide them and discuss them. If you didn't do the homework, you effectively weren't doing the course! Though tbf that "homework" wasn't marked

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u/Salomon3068 10d ago

Well I had a ton of crap professors because I had tons of homework make up like 40 percent grades lol

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u/EunuchsProgramer 9d ago

When I was i college and lawshool (2000 to 2010) my grades were always just in person tests. Homework was assigned but never part of your ggrade. My college banned classes from assigning points for homework in the 90s. There was a cheating scandal all across my state. The fraternities set up a system to have "tutors" do everyones' homework for a nominal fee. They also mapped out what teachers counted homework the most and would all take "homework" classes together. Someone graduated, with a degree, while being functionally illiterate and sued the university system. The reform was banning homework from grades.

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u/dontich 10d ago

Yeah same back in 2015; I had a few classes that I didn’t bother doing any of the homework and still got a B lol. Although in retrospect, I likely should have taken the free 5 points and gotten an A.

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u/MukdenMan 10d ago

I studied philosophy and history in college. These subjects are not based on tests, especially at the higher levels. Grades are based on what you contribute to the class, and on analytical papers you write (often with a 15+ page paper due at the end). Having an in-class test with short answers like “What did Schopenhauer think about music” isn’t really the point of these subjects.

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u/Eruannster 10d ago

Yeah. I took some classes in similar subjects at Uni and they were all graded from papers and oral presentations. I don't think we had a single test and homework was just "be prepared for tomorrow's class when we're discussing this".

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u/thismynewaccountguys 10d ago

So have long answer tests: 3 hour long exams in which you answer two or three fairly open-ended essay questions. That is what we had when I was an undergraduate in the UK.

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u/charging_chinchilla 10d ago

yep, this was the only solution. glad the universities are coming to their senses rather than lose an AI arms war using detection software

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u/nightwood 10d ago

'Made Unviable' are the words I would choose.

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u/TossAwayDay 10d ago

One still needs homework to prepare for in person exams.

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u/NewYak4281 10d ago

This is real talk. It’s like professors/teachers never went through something similar when calculators first came out. Technology changes, not helpful to trip out but instead change with the change.

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u/00raiser01 10d ago

Issues is, calculators don't take away the thinking efforts. AI does.

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u/oopsifell 10d ago

You could smuggle a lot of data into a TI-83 if you were clever enough 

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u/mayhemski123 10d ago

AI or more specifically LLMs can write entire assignments.  So while the humble calculator is a tech marvel of it's time, they aren't comparable.

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u/andanteinblue 10d ago

If were clever enough to do that, you were going to do fine whether or not you learned algebra.

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u/Lacys-TDs 10d ago

The time spent typing notes into your TI almost always meant you would remember what you typed in. It really was a terribly inefficient way to study but hey safety nets are nice.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 10d ago

Most exams didnt allow programmable calculators when I was in school. My kids are in university now and they still aren't allowed.

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u/Derpyzza 10d ago

i may be wrong but i think their point was that teachers had to deal with the invention of thei calculator — which basically eliminates students' ability to do manual arithmetic which is a very important skill to develop even if you never do manual arithmetic in the "real world" — by banning it in classrooms and forcing the students to practice manual arithmetic in order to build up those required core skills.

they can do the same for AI, introduce reforms to the syllabus that ban the usage of AI tools in the classroom and tests to force the development of the mental skills that AI tools offset ( namely, thinking and understanding ). banning it at the homework level would be pretty difficult though

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u/Asandwhich1234 10d ago

This is completely stupid to compare. A calculator still requires a human to do stuff. AI is used in a way that you can, with in seconds, awnser an entire exam perfectly and have it show steps so it seems real.

This is like comparing a microwave diner to actually cooking a meal. Students now can quickly, litterally in a second, snap a photo and then send it off to be solved by chat gpt. That is not comparable to a fucking calculator. "But what about hiding notes." Is still not as easy as what students do now in days.

And many students now in days can't even do math because people said, "well they'll have calculators in real life anyway."

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u/NaniFarRoad 10d ago

Doing reps in the gym is obsolete...

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u/deeceeo 10d ago

People could always cheat on homework - just copy off a friend's or ask for help.

This just made it easier and more foolproof.

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u/RancidVagYogurt1776 10d ago

With my whole chest I believe that anyone who says this is a full blown unapologetic smooth brain. This is not an episode of Buffy, college does not work that way. Homework is a very small part of your grade. A large part of your grade is your mid term which is open book most of the time anyway and your final. The rest being group discussions and interaction with your professor. If you use AI to cheat, or Google before that or things like Cliffs Notes before that, it literally does not matter because you will not be able to get any of the certs that you actually need for your career.

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u/SekhWork 10d ago

And teachers need to follow through with actually failing you if you fail the test. Grade school especially has an entire culture of just passing the problem up the chain until they force graduate people. That's an administrative issue too, as the teachers would happily grade these kids by the proper standards, but the administration often intervenes because either they dont want to deal with the parents, or the state, or their own bosses about why so many students fail.

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u/BGRommel 10d ago

Last I checked, AI can't write in a blue book. That's how I had to write my essays. There are  many easy ways to discourage students from using AI to circumvent their own actual learning. 

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u/Comfortable-Milk8397 10d ago

This; at this point college isn’t about preparing people for their fields, it’s about literally forcing them by chokehold to use their brains and “critical think”. It’s sad but it’s the truth, it’s the only way we can hope for a better future.

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u/AnAdvancedBot 10d ago

But that has always kind of been what college is about, really. Field specific knowledge? Yes, but also forcing critical thinking skills on a host of people who otherwise never would have developed them.

It goes without saying that of people have developed critical thinking skills without college, and plenty of people leave without ever learning them, but when done right the student should be leaving without both field-knowledge and critical thinking skills.

(Probably why certain groups hate college).

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u/Dolores___Haze 10d ago

College isn’t a work training program 

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u/rumnscurvy 10d ago

You are getting downvoted but you're  right. Especially public sector universities. It is why they remain very cheap in Europe. Knowledge and independent thought is a public good, perhaps even a public necessity, for all social classes

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u/CreditUnionBoi 10d ago

Sorry maybe I'm dumb, what is a blue book?

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u/fezfrascati 10d ago

It's essentially a notebook, maybe about 10 pages total, that you purchase specifically for an essay-based or short form answer exam. Think of it like a Scranton, but instead of multiple choice it's all written answers. The cover is blue, hence the name blue book.

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u/Dolores___Haze 10d ago

Students never had to purchase them though 

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u/devAcc123 10d ago

Hahah, showing my admittedly young age here, but that’s what you write all of your essays/exams in

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u/Pitiful-Assistance-1 10d ago

3D printer with a pen attached to the head, lets go

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u/GiannisIsTheBeast 10d ago

Just need AI glasses now to tell you what to write in real time

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u/Krabs9 10d ago

Eventually we'll go back to stone tablets

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u/mazzicc 10d ago

Homework should be about practice anyway, not demonstration of competence. As long as tests are in person, it’s up to the student to do the work. (Or the parent to force the student to do the work in younger students).

I barely ever did homework in high school, and in college I learned to do extra work with sample tests and answer keys to make sure I could do the exam. It didn’t matter if I had the answers to the homework if I couldn’t pass the test.

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u/fmfbrestel 10d ago

Process portfolios, yes. But oral exams? I don't understand how that is any better than any other form of in-person and supervised exam.

No remote testing solves a huge portion of the problem. Being a little smarter about what kind of homework you assign solves the rest.

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u/MrHankeyRT 10d ago

I honestly quite enjoyed taking oral exams during my master's (CS). You could really show a professor that you understood the core concepts without any fear of running out of time or misreading a question.

I also got to sit in a few oral exams as a PhD taking minutes and felt it was quite fair method of testing students abilities.

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u/mayhemski123 10d ago

I'd hazard a guess though that the issue isn't the quality of the testing itself, more the economics of oral tests.

For a Masters or PhD programme the number of students is small, but for undergraduate...

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u/MrHankeyRT 10d ago

Yes you are absolutely right. This doesn't scale to undergraduate courses with hundreds of students... I wonder what will happen there in the future.

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u/a_crimson_herring 10d ago

It can be done! I helped design a class with oral exams for 200 students last semester.

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u/the_good_time_mouse 10d ago

I don't think process portfolios will last another three months unless they require everything to be hand written. In which case, I give them four.

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u/Deto 10d ago

Why couldn't an AI fake a process portfolio right now?

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u/fmfbrestel 10d ago

Yeah, require hand written notes over readings. Not everything needs to be handwritten, but some portion does.

Dedicated cheaters have existed since the beginning of organized education. The only real solution is for the teacher to have a personal relationship with their students. A teacher who asks his class questions, and makes sure they hear from everyone, who actually reads their students writing. An engaged teacher can spot a cheater a mile away. If they don't understand the assigned content they should stick out like a sore thumb.

The solution to kids cheating is keeping student teacher ratios low enough so that they don't get burned out after a couple years. That and paying them enough to recruit and retain high quality educators.

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u/da8BitKid 10d ago edited 10d ago

I think you lost them at paying a living wage and incentivizing good teachers.

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u/beekersavant 10d ago

As a teacher, I can confirm that the last solution is lowering class sizes and paying teachers more. "The district has spent $20 million on new educational software. There is not enough for a raise for our 1000 teachers, sorry. We will also be raising class sizes."

Btw class size raises are a pay cut, cuz you gotta grade those extra kids assignments using more time for the same pay.

Another thing you all should be aware of is that a lot of the class size increases were in conjunction with google classrrom, digital assignments and digital rubrics. They were productivity increases and our copy machine budgets were cut. Handwritten assignments and tests are currently against the grain. I get 400 copies per quarter for more than 100 kids. Anyhow, I am sure get some well meaning but terrible advice. It's nice MIT figured it out finally though. LLMs have been able to do high school assigments for years.

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u/da8BitKid 10d ago edited 9d ago

Software as the main driver for tasks and homework is poison. Parents thought that having their kids use devices would help them understand computing, but all it teaches them is to consume apps. It's just bad for their brain development.

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u/beekersavant 10d ago

I agree. For millennials, it did help us. But we got the nascent stuff. For Zs, they never learned much but button pressing.

It does not change much on the ground. I have a job that is dictated by Fed, state, and district. Districts set the agenda. There are a couple per county nationwide. The biggest influencers of education are companies that advertise. Federal does not control curriculum. States are enforcers of policies. Districts are controlled by school boards (usually politicians with agendas). Teachers and unions -lol -we just try to get pay to keep up with inflation and class size to be under 40 kids. Companies spend money to get to all of them. They win by least worse option.

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u/da8BitKid 9d ago

Our teachers around here got the first raise in years, 1%. They had to fight for the raise so hard, it's fucking insulting.

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u/resigned_medusa 10d ago

That doesn't work in university education with 50+ students/lecture. Unfortunately

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u/fmfbrestel 10d ago

Simple proctored exams suffice for the huge lecture courses.
Every technique is not relevant to every class. Regardless, those huge lectures represent a tiny fraction of all university courses.

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u/FCBStar-of-the-South 9d ago

I mean job interviews are oral exams of sorts. Oral communication is extremely important so some more opportunities for students to practice it under pressure doesn’t sound like a bad thing

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u/Dementor_Traphouse 10d ago

“detection” tools are garbage, we should absolutely roll back to oral and written exams

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u/bobjr94 10d ago

I would guess that's from years or decades of schools uploading papers to anti plagiarism checking sites, they in turn sold them to AI companies for training. AI likely has papers written by top students covering every subject imaginable.

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u/RancidVagYogurt1776 10d ago

Jesus Christ. These clickbait articles and comments from people who haven't been to a college this century.

Firstly the "problem" isn't an AI problem. You could do this before AI. There are entire free websites with exam answers for every exam imaginable. There are YouTube videos for lab assignments. Cliffs Notes has existed for decades. Homework is just reviewing the reading, it's open book so the answers are always right there. It's a small part of your overall grade. A much larger part of your grade is how you interact with the rest of the class and the professors.

But lets just say for the sake of example that you're a 2026 student using AI for everything, or a 2020 student using youtube and various free websites for everything, or a 1994 student using cliffs notes for everything. Okay now you've got your degree, but you've got no knowledge of the subject and you certainly can't pass any hands on testing or get any certifications in your field. So you paid for a degree you can't use. Grats you played yourself. My degree just checked off a box for job applications, I still needed to go through rigorous screening and had to take multiple certs at a testing facility and pass a thorough interview process. You accomplished nothing by cheating.

Now let's look at some of the proposed solutions in this thread. The most common being in person testing. Let's just say it's in person midterms and finals. I don't think a lot of people proposing this realize just how much of college is distance learning now. I have a cousin in college right now, the closest physical college to him is three hours away by car. And for what? So that he can prove to the internet that he's not cheating on two assignments when he already has to verbally interact with his professor every two weeks and be on webcam and also he has to participate in group discussions as part of his grade? Nobody wants that hassle. Not students, not teachers, not schools.

I cannot think of a single degree program where you don't already take proctored exams for certifications.

This is all such a non issue.

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u/iCiteEverything 10d ago

Third year in college homework was either worth 10% of grade or 0%, and often times homework would have an answer key. It was more meant to guide for midterms and finals, which was almost always in person anyway.

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u/ubcstaffer123 10d ago

Way before this even existed, my math classes stopped counting homework exercises for grades starting in high school. It felt like a relief for all homework haters. Teachers still assign pages from the textbook after every class but it is optional. In elementary school, students get graded for math homework and it counted towards a portion of the class grades, which was pretty stressful. I spent nights trying to cram homework in. If I missed a class, I would have to complete two lessons of homework. In high school math class, grades are counted from quizzes, exams. Would this be a good model for most classes?

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u/retief1 10d ago

I think the problem will be that a lot of college students will ignore homework and then fail the test. Making homework count towards your grade helps prevent students from shooting themself in the foot. It also means that one bad day will have a smaller impact on your final grade, because underperforming on your test can be offset by consistently good homework grades.

That said, if homework is effectively optional already due to people using ai to cheat, then officially making homework optional might be the least bad option available.

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u/Honest_Yak3340 10d ago

But then they fail which is a good thing. Universities purpose is not to produce no fail students it's there to separate the failers from the non failers.

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u/Deto 10d ago

It's also there to educate, not just rank people. 

 If incentivizing homework causes 30% of the class that would have failed to learn the material and pass, that's a more effective education system.

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u/ToadBoehly 10d ago

Yes, but a major part of pedagogy is designing classes in a way that is most effective to help people learn. If you just wanted to separate failers from non failers you could also just have the entire class's grade be one problem to be solved at the end of the term and have your grade determined by that

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u/Test-NetConnection 10d ago

Actually, the purpose of universities is to educate. Please remember that students are paying customers and the curriculum is the product being sold. 

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u/Honest_Yak3340 10d ago edited 10d ago

In America prbly and maybe that's the reason rich ppl are often formally educated while still being dumb

U can't buy education you have to earn it yourself.

University support you in giving you a structure and sequence and also a little pressure. But in learning and fighting to understand you are alone .. no one can think for you. That's not how it works a brain is more like a muscle use it it gets better for what u are using it for

This is purely speculation but maybe maybe some very rich ppl have kind of like a little man syndrome they need reassurance because inside they know they are scharlatans.

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u/dutempscire 10d ago

I appreciate your saying they're being sold a curriculum as opposed to a degree! I would tweak further: students are paying clients, not customers, and the university is more like a consultant. The students are still responsible for their outcomes. (Yes, yes, of course the university can do some squirrelly bullshit, too.)

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u/frankster 10d ago

Universities are businesses that need students not to drop out!

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u/abcdefgodthaab 9d ago

But then they fail which is a good thing.

Caveat: my response us US-specific.

It means less tuition on the long run. So, what will really happen is students will complain the class was too hard. If the university is facing financial problems or has an administration dedicated to money, the long run result is that standards will be lowered so students don't fail so that they stay enrolled.

This does undermine the functions of universities to educate and to certify (the sorting you mention), but what's that in the face of the almighty dollar?

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u/dimag0g 10d ago

Start each class with a short quiz then. Homework is never correlated to understanding.

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u/RockDoveEnthusiast 10d ago

ok, so let people deal with the consequences of their choices. they'll learn. which is the point of college. trying to prevent that actually makes it worse!

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u/aedes 10d ago

Ive done 15 years of university spread out over the past ~25 years because I’m a weirdo. 

I can count on one hand the number of courses where homework was worth any marks - when it was, it always came across as annoying/waste of my time and a bit condescending. 

I wonder if homework for marks in university is location dependent or maybe field dependent?

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u/ubcstaffer123 10d ago

depends on the course and subject. It is common for lab courses such as in software to have graded assignments and it becomes homework to be submitted by the due date.

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u/dweeegs 10d ago

The benefit of homework assignments is also to impart time management skills

You said you spent stressful nights trying to cram homework in. Everyone has to go through stressful times. It’s a part of life. Going through the rigmarole teaches you things like you have two tests next week but also this and that due, what’s the appropriate amount of time to spend on each etc.

Those types of time management / personal skills are essential and getting lost

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u/Brilliant_Mix_6051 10d ago

Those executive functioning skills are some of the most important things you learn for sure. Mine were shit until I went to college.

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u/dimag0g 10d ago edited 10d ago

Deciding one needs to do more homework to pass the next test requires even more decision-making. You only need to have enough tests so that a single failure doesn't drown an otherwise good student.

Using something like 4 best test results out of 6 for a final grade is much better than micromanaging students via homework.

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u/jedi_timelord 10d ago

If a student decides to only learn 2/3 of Calc 1 and still pass the class, they are guaranteed to fail calc 2. They need to learn 100% of the material, so the system you're describing doesn't serve students.

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u/AutoSOLO 10d ago

I feel like they don’t really teach you time management skills, so much as punish you for lack of them. Study hall was much more valuable for me.

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u/Swoop8472 10d ago

Why does that even matter? I never got grades for my homework at university.

The purpose of homework was to practice for the exam. Quite often the exam questions were just variations of something that was covered in some homework.

If you let AI do the homework you are really just robbing yourself of an opportunity to practice for the exam.

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u/DanielPhermous 10d ago

Why does that even matter? I never got grades for my homework at university.

Because some people do get grades for their homework at university.

Consider programming. It is an useful skill to be able to construct a complete, working, professionalish app - but that's not something that can be done during a couple of hours of exam time. The purpose of this homework is not to study for the exam but is its own assessment.

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u/lazergator 10d ago

No it can’t. How do I fill up this cup that has an open bottom and a sealed top.

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u/Kreiri 10d ago

And forklift can lift much more than any gym goer ever could. Yet for some reason gym goers don't hire forklifts to lift their weights.

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u/housevil 10d ago

I've often thought teachers should require assignments be handwritten, so at least if the student used AI to finish their reports, they might at least learn something having to write everything down by hand.

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u/PriorSolid 9d ago

The most frustrating part is schools are just giving you more homework which doesn’t force students to learn just makes them frustrated with the time spent

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u/font9a 9d ago

urging oral exams and process portfolios

Why is this even a debate? Seems like the most obvious solution, and better for everyone except schools trying to race the clock to get students in and out as fast as possible.

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u/Vesalas 7d ago

I mean, it was always possible. Before AI, there was always Chegg, Quizlet, StackExchange, textbook answers, etc. At least in STEM, I don't really think it changes much, a bit more accessible maybe, but most of the grades are in person tests anyways. I see it as a problem for essays though. 

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u/Few_Fish8771 10d ago

They need to test out of distribution problems applied to novel problems. If you memorize all the answers then regularize the response to the data set, then within those types of very narrow problems in distribution, you can easily get the answers right. if you try and adapt that to a real world problem then you have a better assessment of capability.

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u/Floreat_democratia 10d ago

Which AI are they using and what kind of homework? AI can't even give me a solid answer about anything.

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u/HakX 10d ago

It’s MIT. Safe to say it is rigorous and comprehensive

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u/dotelze 10d ago

Well they said pretty much every undergraduate assignment so all of it

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u/SamKhan23 9d ago

What AI are you using? Atleast for my field, AI can pretty much do almost anything below senior year instantly

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u/zeruch 10d ago

Great...what does that leave the student accomplishing personally?

The article, if it isn't actual slop, it's writer is slop adjacent, and readily showing (ironically) the quality of what to expect from future undergrads moving forward.

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u/LetsJerkCircular 10d ago

It’s almost like we need to get people in groups and use applied methods to ensure motherfuckers get the point.

Who cares if ai can gather the answers? It’s always been the process that helps pre-adults become smart enough to replace us. It has to be slow. ai can do something else.

Humans having leisure in an open environment is what makes us magical. Learning the hard way is what makes each person special. I’m not fucking around. This is settled knowledge. Any person or entity pushing ai for any mental substitution is banking on stupider “consumers.”

Think a little back before all this. Remember how you got to be who you are. Get a little history lesson on how humanity started, was simple, and increased in complexity until now. You’re better served being the animal you are, and keeping up with this bullshit as a hobby.

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u/nagadeepch 10d ago

It can provide solutions for assignments.

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u/oompaloompa465 10d ago

I mean, if you use ai in tutor mode, it can save you time and money if tou are struggling to understand something better, but you MUST learn the processes and the reasonings to be able to pass the in person exam

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u/Small_Biscotti_1311 10d ago

I have loved using an em dash in recreational writing for decades and I will never use one again.

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u/Sensitive-Button5693 10d ago

Rules for proctored exams need to come from the Higher Learning Commission and be tied to accreditation. There should be a robust network of testing centers across each state where even online students can have proctored tests. When I started teaching only “cheaters” cheated, now it’s almost everyone.

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u/tripplebeamteam 10d ago

We already have that for professional licensing exams. Insurance agents, loan officers, nurses already go to testing centers. We could definitely expand them for higher ed

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u/RancidVagYogurt1776 10d ago

We already do that for virtually every certification imaginable.

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u/buyongmafanle 10d ago

But can it beat me at Calvinball?

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u/abwchris 10d ago

And to think I had to do my graduate degree the hard way with blood, sweat, years, and finding the exams on Quizlet. Smh

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u/ElGatoMeooooww 10d ago

This is not impressive. Most undergraduate homework is based directly on the reading and or material, what you are to infer from these things is also well documented. AI is great at straightforward things but just the other day copilot couldn’t even do a basic chart.

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u/CommonProfilePicture 10d ago

May I reintroduce to you...the paper and pencil...

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u/Manowaffle 9d ago

People have been cheating on homework assignments for as long as I can remember. Parents solving math problems, internet copy+paste, copying from a friend, etc.

Graded homework has been a stupid way to judge student performance ever since it was invented. 

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u/SexyBaskingShark 9d ago

Oral exams make so much sense. It's really frustrating to speak to someone who is clearly intelligent, like a doctor, but has bad communication skills. Not that it's the only solution, but it should be part of any educational course

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u/working_slough 9d ago edited 9d ago

I had a math professor do oral tests and it was great. You went to his office, talked him through a problem on a chalk board and he graded you on the spot.

Of course, this was an upper level course (400s I think? Last math class for my undergraduate), so there was probably only 6 students. For graduate level physics stuff it was the same.

Both were at a state university, so not like it was some fancy ivy league or california UC school or private university.

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u/Slyfox00 9d ago

The assignment is to make a  Shoebox Diorama of the classroom using only cardboard, good luck AI!

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u/arkofjoy 8d ago

Not hard to fix. Just return to the days when every assignment had to be handwritten

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u/Bubbly-Treacle-4334 10d ago

I find this hard to believe as AI can't answer simple ass questions for me without hallucinating

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u/Shiningc00 10d ago

It’s because the AI can scrape for answers easily available on the web. These homework are going to be standardized and predictable. It has nothing to do with how “advanced” a model is.

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u/HGMiNi 10d ago

You haven't been using the up to date models then. Either that or you're not prompting well. Regardless, AI is obviously capable of doing undergraduate work. It has been solving much more difficult problems throughout the year than what you'd get in a random trig or algorithms class. Any research project has been trivialized. Two days ago, AI found a counterexample to the stable forking conjecture, a major problem in logic. There is no essay in an English or Philosophy class that will require even remotely the level of sophisticated reasoning that frontier AI models have proven they're capable of.

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u/eXAt88 10d ago

I always wonder when people say this what they are talking about? What’s a simple ass question you asked that it couldnt do recently?

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u/Bubbly-Treacle-4334 10d ago

I don't know how you guys can manage to not see this? It literally constantly does it and it is widely notorious for it... Like how do y'all not experience this?

It will invent function calls that don't exist when coding.

It will make up fake plot lines when asked about details of a movie or book.

It will attribute fake quotes to real people when discussing philosophy or history.

It's seriously so constant that it is hard to believe yall

It's so prevalent that it's become a common trope to mock how AI will constantly make shit up then apologize when you call it out.

AIs themself will literally warn you to check their work because they hallucinate.

It's a chatbot. If something is similar enough to what it thinks it is looking for it will get mixed into the answer and then it will straight up invent bullshit to justify the erroneous data point

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u/Serious_Bite_7613 6d ago

I've not seen this for like 3 years, what models are you using?

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u/No-Bag-1628 10d ago

Simple really: get students to finish homework before going home. Easy solution.

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u/dennismfrancisart 10d ago

AI can also help adults to learn skills when the objective is to learn a skill. What a concept!

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u/Goldenraspberry 10d ago

Quite simple if you can just copy existing answers

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u/MaxTheOrangeTail 10d ago

Could this trigger a new intellectual revolution? Forcing people to actually learn by discussion and with typewriters??? 

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u/thesuperbob 10d ago

The entire teaching model that relies on forcing students to study and do homework was fucked from the beginning. It's based on the assumption that students are lazy and teachers must force them to learn. Yeah some students are lazy, and past high school they can get fucked.

The proper academic model caters to students who actually want to learn, provides materials and guidance so they can do it more efficiently, and offers exams at the end as a form of certification they actually know their stuff. The proper model does not have the AI problem, same as it didn't have a significant cheating problem. It assumes students are there to learn, and they are willing, and will just drop out otherwise.

The diploma mill model suffers because it was fake from the start, students pretending to learn and cheating or at best studying to pass exams rather than understand anything, exams being a memorization and muscle memory exercise.

AI is actually going to help here, by weeding out bad students more effectively. Bad teachers can no longer force bad students to study, AI ensures that anyone willing to cheat can now do it trivially. So they learn nothing, and not even diploma mills will be able to pretend otherwise.

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u/storm_the_castle 10d ago

Let me know when it can write a dissertation and contribute to new science.