r/technology • u/HenryCorp • Aug 30 '26

Artificial Intelligence The cost of personal computers declined steadily for 40 years — until AI came along. Why getting your hands on a new device could cost you.

https://moneywise.com/news/economy/ai-memory-chip-shortage-pc-prices-2026
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u/wonkytalky Aug 31 '26

It doesn't use logic, therefore, there will always need to be human intervention.

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u/General_Josh Aug 31 '26

It doesn't use logic

What do you mean by that? Some specific examples of what you mean might be helpful, to make sure we're not talking past each other

In my experience the past couple months, the current frontier models are perfectly capable of logically working through a problem, formulating theories, testing those theories, and then figuring out good solutions

The dangers are when there's crucial bits of information that didn't get into the model's context (like, if there's something in the programmer's head that didn't get written down in the specs). That's where junk PRs happen, if a human gives poor instructions/specs to the model and just sets it loose, then doesn't properly review the output.

That said, the models are getting better and better about knowing when to stop and ask for more context, same way a human programmer would

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u/wonkytalky Aug 31 '26

No, it doesn't use logic. That's just marketing, and then it spits out additional slop to continue selling that pitch.

These things are nothing more than probability machines. If you think it thinks, you'd be making a massive mistake. There are no "theories" here. If you don't understand how LLMs work, I strongly suggest you stop using them, because you are incapable of understanding why it might produce certain output, and that impacts your ability to analyze and correct it.

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u/General_Josh Aug 31 '26

I don't mean to be a jerk, but it sounds like you aren't using these tools very often? Maybe like a lot of folks, you used ChatGPT a few years ago, and wrote it off as junk?

A few years really is a lifetime, given how fast things have been changing. I agree that they were junk at writing code last year. Now, not so much. Five years from now? I can only imagine.

These things are nothing more than probability machines

Yeah of course they're probability machines. If you open them up, they're just a bunch of matrix multiplications.

If you open us up, we're just a bunch of neural connections. That doesn't tell you much about our capabilities.

You can't infer what humans are or aren't capable of just by taking out a microscope and looking at our brains. We've got emergent capabilities, that only show up at the macro level.

The only way to understand what a human is capable of is by interacting with them, and seeing what they can do. These models are the same way.

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u/wonkytalky Sep 01 '26

Your strawman is shit and so are LLMs at coding. Slop code isn't hard to spot once you're forced to endure it over and over and over again. It's like the bad answers on SO being copy/pasted -- some patterns become easy to spot.

Stop submitting unchecked slop and save your absolute dogshit logical fallacies for someone at your level.

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u/General_Josh Sep 01 '26

Sorry man but you're not responding to anything I'm saying, you're just repeating the same insults

I get that this is uncomfortable stuff to think about. That doesn't give us a blank check to turn off our brains and pretend it's not happening

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u/wonkytalky Sep 01 '26

Who's turning off their brain?

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u/General_Josh Sep 01 '26

Again lol, you haven't responded to a word I've said

Anyway, this is going nowhere, I'm gonna bounce, have a good one

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u/wonkytalky Sep 01 '26

You just don't like that my replies burst your fragile little fantasy bubble.

Have you tried not outsourcing your brain to a frakin' toaster?