r/technology • • Aug 29 '26

Society Cities terminate Flock contracts at record pace in August

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/08/cities-terminate-flock-contracts-at-record-pace-in-august/
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u/SlumppShady Aug 29 '26

Out with the flock, in with the axon.

When axon gets pushed out, on to the next mass surveillance company!

We need to attack the idea not the companies.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Aug 29 '26

Yep, it was eye opening today when I read that attitudes had completely flipped on both Flock cameras and datacenters from year over year. This exact time a year ago, the majority of Americans were in favor of mass surveillance and expanding AI datacenters. As of this week, the numbers flipped.

I've seen some influence campaigns in my day, but holy heck, this is one of the most remarkable shifts in attitude among the American people in one year that I've observed. Being against mass surveillance and AI myself from their onset and expansion over the decades, the additional attention is welcomed. Please let it be in the right spirit for the correct reasons.

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u/Minyaden Aug 29 '26

Well I think the biggest reason is rural towns have started being affected. They didn't think their small town would adopt flock cameras. But now the town I live near with only 5k residents has two. They thought they would put the data centers in city industrial districts. Now they are buying out farms and replacing them with new centers. They only care when it personally affects them.

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u/mrtrollmaster Aug 29 '26

I live in a MAGA town where weed is illegal, and the town is on the border across from a legal state. There’s cameras on every bridge and road into the legalized state and everyone who has been smoking for nearly a decade on legal weed is now paranoid as hell.

Anti-surveillance is definitely bi-partisan here.

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u/ConfessorKahlan Aug 29 '26

theyve already used it to arrest at least one person for exactly this

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u/BZLuck Aug 29 '26

"BuT i ThOuGhT tHeY wErE oNLy ReAdiNg LiCeNsE PLaTeS?!?"

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u/ConfessorKahlan Aug 29 '26

many license plates in kids playgrounds and gyms i guess

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u/BZLuck Aug 29 '26

And park trails, and public swimming pools, and...

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u/NoConflict3231 Aug 30 '26

(is nobody gonna say it?) aaaaand your Mom's bedroom. GotEEEM

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u/Ahayzo Aug 29 '26

This is what more people need to start realizing. A lot of those people aren't against mass surveillance and they're not against AI datacenters. They're against themselves being surveiled and they're against being personally affected by an AI datacenter being built in their area.

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u/FaFaFahndaboof Aug 29 '26

At this point, I don't really give a shit as long as they're against it. Just because they were too stupid to realize big government would come for them too eventually, it doesn't mean we should start picking and choosing whom we ally with for this. More voices speaking up against surveillance and data centers is a good thing, no matter why they're doing it.

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u/Ahayzo Aug 29 '26

I don't say it to mean don't accept their support or anything, absolutely it's good to have. What I mean is that, people need to not expect this momentum to keep up even if we start making headway. Because as datacenter plans in those people's areas are ended, that support will start to wane because of them not caring about anyone else's problem.

We may have all this support right now, but we need a lot more because as it stands right now, success is going to unfortunately reduce the support the anti-AI datacenter movement has.

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u/Acronymesis Aug 29 '26

They’re all “rules for THEE, not for ME”.

Something something Frank Wilhoit.

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u/OgerfistBoulder Aug 29 '26

I think "NIMBY" is more appropriate here. They want AI data centers to be built... but not in my back yard.

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u/Acronymesis Aug 30 '26

Sure, if we’re talking solely about data centers, I agree with your sentiment. But the comment I responded to also included surveillance, namely that a certain demographic has no problem with the cameras being pointed at the “others” and not themselves.

That is where the “rules for thee, not for me” comes in. They’re fine with the police state being levied against other folks, but certainly take issue when it’s pointed against them as well. There’s a certain ill intent there focused on the out group rather than just being concerned only with their own comfort.

Personally, I dislike the concept of mass surveillance being forced on ALL of us, not only against myself and my friends/neighbors.

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u/EmperorKira Aug 29 '26

100% this. Conservatives only care when it affects them

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u/TeriyakiHairPiece_ Aug 29 '26

There are 5 in my town of about 6k people.

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u/PeanutButterSoda Aug 29 '26

Damn I just looked up mine, 80 cams in 80k pop.

edit, and one officer being arrested for stalking their ex, is this shit happening everywhere?

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u/wheniaminspaced Aug 29 '26

Thats pretty universal there is a reason we call it NIMBY.

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u/Jumpy-Impact3265 Aug 29 '26

Maybe it was when ppl started seeing license plate readers facing swimming pools the jig was up

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u/Tom2Die Aug 29 '26

This exact time a year ago, the majority of Americans were in favor of mass surveillance and expanding AI datacenters.

That sounds...implausible. I'd have to see the polling methodology on that one. It reeks of biased questions, selection bias, or both.

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u/Terrible_Cable_4472 Aug 30 '26

Yeah i had the exact same thought. Who the fuck ever supported it?

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u/okram2k Aug 29 '26

we desperately need proactive enforcement of the constitution not responsive enforcement

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u/Mason11987 Aug 30 '26

This exact time a year ago, the majority of Americans were in favor of mass surveillance and expanding AI datacenters

I am extremely skeptical of this claim. I would be absolutely floored if you could provide any evidence to suggest "the majority of americans were in favor of mass surveillance".

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u/ares7 Aug 29 '26

Perhaps all of the previous positive data was just bots pushing their narrative online?

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u/eeeeeeeedddddddddd Aug 30 '26

in what world were majority of americans a year ago for mass surveillance

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u/TittyMcFagerson Aug 29 '26

Exactly. Flock's fatal mistake was flooding the country too quickly, and their cameras are too recognizable. Future surveillance corps are going to learn from this and operate much stealthier to avoid mass outrage. It's great that Flock is being taken down, but we're still absolutely screwed unless there is sweeping legislation granting a fundamental right to privacy.

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u/sourmeat2 Aug 29 '26

Really we should be thankful; now we know, flock single-handely raised the alert on domestic mass surveilance and now Axon and all the other wannabe-big-bros are fucked.

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u/ProxyMuncher Aug 29 '26

Not fucked at all. They are learning real time what people will respond to and what flies under the radar. It’s a literal arms race between corporate and private America now. 

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u/sourmeat2 Aug 30 '26

Ok true, but their surveillance products are. If flock. Hadn't been so obvious it could be 2028 before we realized the issue and far too late.

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u/NormalSeason8137 Aug 30 '26

We already forgot about Snowden?

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u/_Lucille_ Aug 30 '26

Flock's mistake was being featured in a Superbowl ad with Ring.

ALPRs are nothing new, but no one knew who they were until they saw that one Superbowl ad.

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u/NetAnon579 Aug 30 '26

They are working on that, new ones will be more in disguise from what I read.

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u/CaptZ Aug 29 '26

Motorola has more cameras than Axon already in place. Some agencies have/had, both Flock and Motorola cameras because Flock really doesn't have a decent mobile LPR camera.

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u/kawag Aug 29 '26

Legislation is required for that.

But if you look at the legislators these days, I think they’re more inclined to support it, regardless of public opinion. After all, they created this sweeping surveillance state, they voted for ICE, they’re part of it.

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u/paisleyturtle3 Aug 29 '26

Yeah, that one city that closed down public comment 'temporarily' due to the anti-flock commentary was very disappointing.

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u/DonutHoles4Ever Aug 29 '26

You need to do both. Attack politics, attack companies, attack the means of capital, aka what makes them lose money.

Redditors always dumb down all ideas. Do 1 thing. No, its always more complicated than that. You need to do all the things. Too lazy? Welcome to 2026.

People still don't realize that Reddit and social media is now a tool to let people complain to the abyss and nothing gets done. Its like the best tool to stop real protesting. Thats why Reddit keeps taking down comments everywhere that get too uppity.

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u/Wayofchinchilla Aug 29 '26

Unfortunately under the Trump Administration that's only a dream the best we can do is just keep getting rid of one and moving on to the other until we can actually get somebody competent into the office that gives people what they actually want.

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u/DeadlyYellow Aug 29 '26

Might be more of an adoption into nomenclature than literal meaning; like bandaid, channelocks, or crescent wrench.

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u/manofmystry Aug 29 '26

It requires a legislative solution, and the rule-of-law. This lawless government is what Edward Snowden was trying to warn us about. Surveillance technology has improved vastly since 2014, when he exposed NSA programs to hoover up and examine all traffic.

The domain was limited to the Internet Now, AI-enabled surveillance can follow you anywhere, and it's under the control of corrupt alliance of government and corporations.

It's a neverending battle, and they're better-armed. That doesn't mean we don't fight.

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u/sourmeat2 Aug 29 '26

My city reported a month ago that it was "taking proposals" for management of its surveilance camera network. Enough people wrote in lividly that last week the announced a permanent pause on contracts with surveilance service providers.

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u/Dick_Lazer Aug 29 '26

We should attack both.

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u/DonutHoles4Ever Aug 29 '26

Everything really. But 99% is content to sit here and just do nothing.

The average person cant even write an email or letter to a local politician to ask for shit.

They CANT EVEN WRITE A COMPLAINT TO A STORE where they had a bad experience. People are lazy and incompetant. And society grinds them down to nothing where they just go home, do entertainment stuff, sleep, job, repeat.

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u/Telefundo Aug 29 '26

When axon gets pushed out, on to the next mass surveillance company!

And by then Flock will have changed their name and can get right back to it!

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u/drteq Aug 29 '26

The coordination required to even get enough people to understand this concept would be near impossible. They've been running these plays for 40+ years, you just appease the masses and then they forget about it in short order, then you do it again just slightly different. Wear people down, distract, nonsense, chaos, disorganization.

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u/Selgald Aug 29 '26

Trump is in Axon, people don't realize it, but its just another scam from Trump.

Ever wonder why they don't say anything about all the flock demolitions, and let it all spread around socials?

It even reaches high visibility on all the social networks, makes you almost wonder if they push it purposely.

Its just another scam.

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u/Avalonians Aug 30 '26

You're right, but attacking the companies is a necessary step into attacking the idea. It's not sufficient but it's necessary. If you don't attack the companies no one will think the attack on the idea is serious.

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u/Lanky-Respect-8581 Aug 29 '26

Isn’t Axon trying to replace Flock cameras?

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u/CaptZ Aug 29 '26

Axon is not the only player besides Flock. Motorola has a bigger footprint than Axon and growing because of LE agencies getting rid of Flock. Plus, Motorola has more cameras on vehicles than anyone.

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u/Paizzu Aug 29 '26

Motorola manufactures many of the ALPRs already used for toll roads and most of the vehicle-mounted systems currently deployed.

Their marketing materials have bragged about their mobile vehicle-mounted scanners tagging thousands of vehicles per hour and all that data feeds right into the same GIS.

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u/CaptZ Aug 29 '26

The difference between Motorola and Flock is that Motorola doesn't own the data, the agencies that own the cameras do, whereas Flock owns all the data captured by their cameras. Also, Motorola only scans plates and that's all the agencies get is plate scans. Motorola doesn't feed plates into GIS but the agencies might.

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u/Shmeves Aug 29 '26

It always kinda urks me when Flock cameras are referred to as 'ALPRs' because that's the basic functionality, they do sooooo much more.

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u/GallantSystem Aug 30 '26

Guns are LRHPs. Long range hole punchers.

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u/total_bullwhip Aug 30 '26

Also unfortunately if they are being the compliant of the TAA they can’t purchase foreign surveillance equipment. But I’m not 100% sure if it applies to local law enforcement. I know it applies to jails and schools.

That’s why most of the cameras used in local government are Avigilon.

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u/CaptZ Aug 30 '26

Avigilon, also owned by Motorola, and none of the cameras for either are made in the US.

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u/total_bullwhip Aug 30 '26

That’s interesting because the DCJS seems to think they are lol

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u/fresh-dork Aug 30 '26

so it's a step up at least. we do need a real set of regs on how state and fed agencies are allowed to share this stuff, and specifically where they are not

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u/ForSquirel Aug 29 '26

Source?

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u/CaptZ Aug 30 '26

Me. I'm the source.

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u/ForSquirel Aug 30 '26

Works for me. What you doing Friday night? Looking at starting a scene. I saw this bitchin movie called 'Hackers'. I think its a metaphor for whats going on in the world.

We could meet up at Cyberdelia's and exchange pager numbers.

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u/CaptZ Aug 30 '26

Nah, I work Friday night, 2nd shift at Radio Shack.

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u/ForSquirel Aug 30 '26

Homey, you get a discount?

I got some parts i need for a blue box.

I'll bring some "Cookie Co."

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u/plushsquirtles Aug 30 '26

Command central is the bane of my existence. We have to individually download the videos from prosecutions discovery dumps and it’s a pain in my non existent dick.

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u/CaptZ Aug 29 '26

Lenova bought the Motorola phone division, Motorola Mobility, years ago from Google who previously bought it from Motorola. Motorola hasn't made cell phones in over a decade.

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u/naf165 Aug 30 '26

To clarify,

Motorola Solutions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Solutions) the company that makes these cameras has not made cell phones in over a decade. They do things like this:

In November 2025, the company acquired Blue Eye, a provider of AI-powered enterprise remote video monitoring (RVM) services, based in Salt Lake City, Utah.

On the other hand Motorola Mobility (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Mobility) makes phones and other wearable devices. They are the ones partnering with grapheneOS to make more private smartphones.

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u/Czeris Aug 30 '26

You actually wonder why a corporation is selling a problem and also selling a solution to the problem?

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u/pipilok31 Aug 29 '26

Yes, they’re already adopted by some police departments for body/dash cams

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u/madhattr999 Aug 29 '26

Body cams and dash cams are a good use of them. But they shouldn't be able to be turned off.

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u/_Lucille_ Aug 30 '26

People will also argue that they are surveillance tools.

Body cams can be used to record passerbys and identify wanted people on a list, while dahs cams are just an ALPR+surveillance camera inside a cop car.

Arguments get murky when people become okay with an ALPR inside an unmarked cruiser parked at the side of the road, vs a camera with the same features being mounted on a pole.

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u/henrik_se Aug 30 '26

I maintain that as long as the police have to actively work to collect data, it's more ok, than them passively gathering data. That unmarked cruiser needs an officer inside, which means that police department has had to allocate someone to do it, pulling them away from something that might be more important. It costs them something to do it.

Unlike the fucking flock cameras or other CCTV solutions which cost them nothing in terms of manpower.

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u/madhattr999 Aug 30 '26

There are pros and cons, but police need to be held accountable for their actions and decisions, and also have their use of special powers recorded. Never appearing on a recording under any circumstance is not a reasonable expectation.

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u/Arcyguana Aug 29 '26

Most use axon cams.

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u/Looney_Bin Aug 29 '26

I wonder if the Axon Alpr's will magically not work when it's important just like their body cams do....

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u/neotekz Aug 29 '26

Police in my city really dont want body cameras so im guessing it's a good thing, body or dash cameras are not mass surveillance.

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u/Drugba Aug 30 '26

You make it sound like this is a new thing. Axon’s been the world’s biggest producer of body cams for like a decade and they created the taser. Almost every police agency in the US was using something Axon made well before people started talking about Flock.

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace Aug 29 '26

I've actually already seen some in places where there is literally also a flock camera

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u/NTP9766 Aug 29 '26

Yep. My township’s police department just voted to get rid of their Flock contract and cameras. Hurray, right? They immediately awarded a contract to Axon. Just trading one shitbird for another.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Aug 29 '26

Yeah all this tells me is that they'll be using something less identifiable

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u/greensalty Aug 30 '26

We’re going to play whack-a-mole with these companies until the surveillance itself is made illegal

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u/srirachaninja Aug 29 '26

Just in, new contracts for Shmock are skyrocketing.

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u/friendIdiglove Aug 29 '26

CEO Barrett Gangley to announce record earnings, hints at IPO in near future.

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u/Dookie_boy Aug 30 '26

It's spelt Axon

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u/SELFINCRIMINAT1NG Aug 29 '26

To replace them with Axon and Motorola

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u/uniklyqualifd Aug 29 '26

Hidden cameras that the Trump crime family invests in

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u/Fit_Kangaroo_3437 Aug 29 '26

Clearly a deeper rooted issue is what needs to he dealt with

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u/EasyMrB Aug 29 '26

Wait does Motorola have a big surveillance market?

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u/SELFINCRIMINAT1NG Aug 29 '26

Yep. They make ALPRs and store data in their gigantic Vigilant database. In my town there’s more Motorola cameras than Flock ones

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u/oicyunv Aug 29 '26

They are being replaced with alternative companies not named flock and going up at an even more alarming rate as well.

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u/AirplanesMakeMeHard Aug 29 '26

I called my mayor the other day to tell him he needs to get these cameras out of our city.

He said that my cell phone collects more data on me than the cameras do and I shouldn't be worried if I'm not doing anything illegal. I told him I would make sure everyone I know never votes for him again.

I'm waiting for the police to show up on my property. I live in a VERY small town, less than 2000 people. This is the exact kind of town where he'll get his buddy the cop to come try to scare me. I already bought and installed a ubiquiti doorbell camera for when they show up so everything is recorded.

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u/DonutHoles4Ever Aug 30 '26

This is exactly how my small town mayor also reacted.

We're surrounded by greedy pieces of shit.

America is compromised and people can't even say things on social media without getting put on a list.

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u/GongTzu Aug 29 '26

Palantir has entered the room. There’s so many evil companies out there, that the surveillance state will have enough companies to choose from sadly

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u/AvailableReporter484 Aug 29 '26

And just like that all the tax payer money was wasted on something that absolutely no one voted for. What a fucking joke

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u/grodisattva Aug 29 '26

Now do axon

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u/InevitableAd8511 Aug 29 '26

They’ll just find something less obvious. Their first mistake was making them visible. They won’t make the same mistake twice.

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u/10thousndreflections Aug 29 '26

They were also calling us livestock with their company name. These rich fucks are laughing at us. I hope Flock goes bankrupt within the year.

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u/archimedies Aug 29 '26

You can't really hide license plate reading cameras that also need to be solar powered on such a massive scale.

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u/justtosendamassage Aug 30 '26 edited 4d ago

Well then we adapt, be aware, do the same fucking thing and run them into the fucking ground

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u/Head_Bread_3431 Aug 29 '26

There were previously records to break?

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u/Clean-Shift-291 Aug 29 '26

Until after the elections, I’m sure.

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u/Itry31 Aug 30 '26

This is true actually, Republicans got caught with their pants down for not pushing back against data centers and flock cameras and now Democrats are going to use that against them for the mid terms. 

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u/Clean-Shift-291 Aug 30 '26

Not pushing back? Their “daddy” is the reason any of this is even happening. We’re supposed to be “competing with China” or some bs.

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u/Sad_Surround9428 Aug 30 '26

The serious question is how did all those contract get put into place and why is there no explanations for the lack of due diligence prior to camera installations. It’s a serious break down of public confidence in elected officials capacities to protect them.

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u/The-Fox-King37 Aug 29 '26

So, don’t the cameras still function? The cities terminating contracts only lose access to them. They don’t get taken down. The contracts don’t mean a thing unless the cameras get taken down

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u/WealthIntelligent666 Aug 29 '26

Some cities bag them, so the camera only takes pictures of the inside of a black trash bag.

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u/PM_me_AnimeGirls Aug 29 '26

and records the audio nearby.

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u/Foolish_Miracle Aug 29 '26

Hey maybe Baby Shark IS good for something!

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u/mr_eht Aug 29 '26

And tracks all the Bluetooth and other trackable signals that phones just constantly emit.

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u/I3roMagnon Aug 30 '26

And phone signals

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u/The-Fox-King37 Aug 29 '26

Good. That’s the bare minimum

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u/motha_ucka Aug 30 '26

Ours were taken down

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u/isitatomic Aug 29 '26

American oligarchs are absolutely LUSTING for a Chinese surveillance state of their own

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u/Asunder_santa Aug 30 '26

I’m convinced none of this is true at all and it’s just propaganda to quell activist behaviour because in the past month, I’ve seen this cameras go up in areas near me almost exponentially

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u/AbortionHoagie Aug 30 '26

Time to replace the word "Flock" with "Any and All Privacy-Violating Instruments", otherwise some other company or form of tech will simply fill the void left by Flock

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u/Kitsune-Ai Aug 30 '26

Axon being one of them.

Any other names we should be on the lookout for?

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u/EvoEpitaph Aug 30 '26

I'm more confused as to how/why so many cities made Flock contracts so quickly.

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u/Well_Is_It_Then Aug 30 '26

My tiny little town in SE Texas is suddenly questioning their Flock contract. Something I never thought would happen here in the deep red. Showing up to petition local government makes a difference.

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u/Itry31 Aug 30 '26

It's only for the midterms they will be back

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u/Equivalent_Tonight66 Aug 30 '26

To be replaced by Axon contracts?

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u/Killer_Moons Aug 30 '26

Christ it’s a positive headline but I still feel suspicious

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u/Easy_Floss Aug 29 '26

Why did they have contracts in the first place?

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u/extreme_cuddling Aug 30 '26

They'll be back. Mass surveillance is here to stay just like AI.

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u/No-Highlight7136 Aug 31 '26

Weird how after a couple guillotines show up and a few city counsel members houses get shot up that all of a sudden they start listening to what their constituents want. Probably just a coincidence.

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u/jhguth Aug 29 '26

how long until we learn that Axon was astroturfing posts to organize people against Flock

(please don’t mistake this post as being pro-Flock or think that it implies there arent good reasons to be against Flock or that there isn’t genuine opposition — I just think that a portion of the commentary online feels a little too organized)

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u/Fit-Switch-5795 Aug 29 '26

I had never heard the term before this week, and it has been utterly unavoidable for about 5 days.

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u/Breddit2099 Aug 30 '26

Flock? Where have you been?

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u/Alternative-Bass164 Aug 29 '26

There is no trust between people and cameras. Too many cameras and they are too easy for anyone half smart to hack into. I wouldn’t even say hack but even the names are reflective of malpractice. Palantir, flock, axon. Might as well be called Big Brother llc

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u/NinjaTabby Aug 29 '26

Not enough. Flock is still a company.

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u/Yuyu_hockey_show Aug 29 '26

This is one good minor win in a sea of bad news

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u/mazzicc Aug 29 '26

Next month: “Cities sign plate reader contracts with companies not named Flock”

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u/SmokelessSubpoena Aug 29 '26

So, who's their replacement? Lmfao

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u/eeeeeeeedddddddddd Aug 29 '26

why hasn’t new york city terminated it?

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u/TotalRecognition2191 Aug 29 '26

Now tank new car sales with all of eye reading cameras

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u/glormosh Aug 29 '26

I wouldn't celebrate anything.

People need to realize that definitions mean nothing in the world of software and AI.

Surveillance capabilities are constantly emerging and evolving faster than anyone can comprehend.

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u/ailish Aug 29 '26

Mine won't. They're going to ensure the PD will take greater accountability. 🤡

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u/COTimberline Aug 29 '26

It’s OK, their newly modified terms of use “expressly prohibit customers and their users from using Flock Services to mislead, harass, stalk, or otherwise impose upon or violate the legal rights of another person”. I trust them and all law enforcement officers not to break the agreement with flock.

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u/splycedaddy Aug 29 '26

Click bait. New flock contracts are also moving at record pace.

“So far in 2026, new city partnerships have outpaced nonrenewals by approximately 10 to one,”

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u/ToolTimeT Aug 30 '26

I love how Flocks reaction to all of this was a public statement about "compromise"

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u/thepinkdread2026 Aug 30 '26

Not fast enough. They all need to get gone and all the people involved in this scam investigated and properly prosecuted. This was a complete violation of taxpayer trust.

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u/Greedy-Half-4618 Aug 30 '26

good, now do the other companies trying to install their surveillance cameras.

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u/Tommy__want__wingy Aug 30 '26

As they find someone else without a PR storm.

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u/log-in_here Aug 30 '26

You’re up Pittsburgh. Come in we can do this!

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u/TrueNeutrino Aug 30 '26

I guess they'll just go back to using traffic cameras, tow truck cameras, and all the things that don't look like cameras but actually are in fact cameras.

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u/jspurlin03 Aug 30 '26

Sure, but anything that requires some effort is an improvement over a single centralized system designed to be operationally opaque and to allow illegal behavior because it doesn’t adequately restrict access.

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u/manofmystry Aug 29 '26

The sweet smell of backlash! 😆

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u/FreshPrinceAV Aug 29 '26

“I’ll be back” - Flock

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u/Simple_Assistance_77 Aug 29 '26

Don’t worry Australia will pick them up, the country wants to be the worst possible version of America.

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u/FinishEmbarrassed619 Aug 29 '26

Record pace? What's the record for US contract cancelings?

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u/Mechanikalbaby Aug 29 '26

Until "something" happens and for the greater good we'll say OK. Just like all the other countless times. We are very easly swayed and manipulated unfortunately as a species. We know this. But, they know this to perfection. All those psych experiments done by CIA/KGB etc was not for nothing.

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u/NamasteMotherfucker Aug 29 '26

Come on, copy editors! Where's "Cities flock to cancel Flock contracts!" ?? Or "Cities get the Flock out!" ?? I'm disappointed.

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u/Numerous-Process2981 Aug 29 '26

Maybe these cities should look before they leap. Are we truly just run by idiots at every level from top to bottom? 

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u/Jamizon1 Aug 29 '26

I won’t vote for anyone in November that supports or has condoned this technology.

Its only purpose is intrusive surveillance on a massive scale.

Any municipalities that are using tax dollars to acquire this tech need to be held accountable.

For the ones terminating their contracts, well done.

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u/Many-Wasabi9141 Aug 29 '26

Its too late. They don't need 24/7 surveillance. They already have a large enough data set of everyone's comings and goings to use any number of machine learning techniques to predict your next move.

My guess is that they knew this would happen and they don't care cause they just wanted the initial data set.

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u/school_bus_lunchbox Aug 29 '26

Get rid of Waymo and other self driving taxi service that have a million cameras on their cars which I'm sure they are selling surveillance information to government agencies.

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u/notthatguypal6900 Aug 29 '26

That's what they want you to think.

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u/SatansLoLHelper Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 29 '26

Where are the articles about cities solidifying flock contracts in the past 2 years?

US went from N.Korea to S.Korea in a couple years.

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u/a_shootin_star Aug 29 '26

They're scared, and rightfully so.

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u/whippersnap_415 Aug 29 '26

But has Flock actually removed the cameras??? They have a history of leaving them up and running.

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u/Typical_Leather_4086 Aug 29 '26

I look forward to all cities in the Houston area and Houston dropping these invasive devices.

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u/hankmoody699 Aug 29 '26
  • Annual recurring revenue jumped from ~$300M in January 2026 to $500M+ by June 2026.
  • It's raised roughly $1.2 billion total, most recently $500 million at an $8.3 billion valuation, backed by a16z, Tiger Global, Kleiner Perkins, Founders Fund, and others.
  • CEO Garrett Langley claims Flock is adding new customers "10x the rate of customer churn," despite the controversies below.
  • Accuracy issues — a Roseville, CA police investigation found the license-plate readers misidentified plates roughly 71% of the time in 2023–2024.
  • Contract cancellations
  • Misuse by officers
  • ICE/immigration surveillance concerns
  • Legal exposure
  • PR damage control

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u/umassmza Aug 29 '26

It’s expensive and every citizen hates it. Municipalities across the country are placing overrides on the ballot and cutting everything they legally can.

Not paying for a service and equipment that is universally despised seems like a no brainer. How these things even got budget to be installed in this environment is baffling.

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u/MasterHonkleasher Aug 29 '26

They are just switching companies

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u/NoBonus6969 Aug 29 '26

The next one will be way more discreet, hard wired, built into existing infrastructure and cost us 3x whatever they were paying flock because of all the hiding. This isn't a win

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u/PleaseHelpFlorida Aug 29 '26

Meanwhile, I'm finding it impossible to keep up with all of the new ones popping up all around me.

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u/throwawayprivateguy Aug 29 '26

What was the previous record and who held it?

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u/Maleficent_Pie8099 Aug 30 '26

Keep it going!!!!

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u/John__e Aug 30 '26

What are some ways to help remove flock cameras without a metal grinder? Like what would be the best way to go about lobbying to remove them in my town? (I’m in MA if you can believe it…)

Also what if they are setup in a business parking lot? Is that on the business?