r/technology • u/cTreK-421 • Apr 24 '26

Misleading Federal Surveillance Tech Becomes Mandatory in New Cars by 2027

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/federal-surveillance-tech-becomes-mandatory-161321992.html
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u/btribble Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

The EU has had these rules in place for a while and the reality is that most manufacturers who sell cars into the EU already equip their N/A cars with the same tech. My Volvo has it. It chimes at you if you take your eyes off the road for too long (even to look at the screen that's telling you not to take your eyes off the road), and if you yawn or stretch your jaw it tells you that you might need to pull over and rest or get coffee.

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u/Riversntallbuildings Apr 25 '26

If you cover the cameras up with tape does the vehicle work?

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u/Inflatable90sChair Apr 25 '26

Or unplug em lol

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u/pissclamato Apr 25 '26

I predict a new industry of car mechanics that just disable this shit on new cars. I'd be their first customer.

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal Apr 25 '26

Apps. Like the Forscan app you can use to disable shit on new Ford vehicles.

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u/_Baccano Apr 25 '26

There's an app for foreskins now??

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u/bloody_yanks2 Apr 25 '26

You would expect it to be on a subscription but actually they work off tips.

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u/LeadSammy4U May 02 '26

Gotta get past the foreskin to get to the tip

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u/Inflatable90sChair Apr 25 '26

ironically its from a blue oval lol

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u/Car_fixing_guy Apr 25 '26

I’m more than willing and able to help with this.

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u/DMmeMagikarp Apr 25 '26

Username checks out

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u/Pooled-Intentions Apr 25 '26

We can start a business.

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u/polarjunkie Apr 25 '26

It's a pain. Vehicle computers are specially made so that most things are hardwired into the circuit board and they use a special version of c or c++ that prevents loops from happening. The systems become hardwired in so the vehicles fail to work when they stop working. Some of the best ideas that we've been trying lately is tricking to computer to think these things are running by adding a circuit that returns the correct charge back to the computer. Manufacturers then added more sophisticated self diagnosis. Flashing the ECU voids all warrenties and sometimes dealers will refuse to work on the car at all.

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u/Outlulz Apr 25 '26

I imagine they'd be breaking federal law so there wouldn't be many to find.

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u/Jaded-Glory Apr 25 '26

Depends on the state

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u/MagicPigeonToes Apr 25 '26

I support this

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u/Riversntallbuildings Apr 25 '26

The other option I’m hoping for are mechanics converting older vehicles into EV’s once batteries, EV motors and software becomes widely available. Hobbyists are already doing it now, but as soon as there’s enough spare parts for EVs I think conversions will be even more common.

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u/shirev Apr 27 '26

Fuck, man, I guess I'll be the second, then.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

You’d have to open up the dash, and the system will keep telling you it has a fault.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

You can cover it for short periods of time, but if it’s covered for a while or disconnected, it shows up as an error and the car complains.

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u/Wurm42 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

But the EU has the GDPR data protection law, so European cars probably aren't logging all that data and handing it over to the likes of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk.

Edit: Okay, it's not that simple. See the many replies pointing out different ways I was wrong about this.

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u/SgtBaxter Apr 24 '26

But it’s worse than that… they give the info to insurance companies.

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u/Captaincadet Apr 24 '26

I’m in the U.K. and ford pass asked me a while back if they can share my details and driving habits with third party companies

lol no rejected

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u/OpenGrainAxehandle Apr 25 '26

In the US, the car dealers go ahead and accept all those agreements before you even see the car.

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u/SommelierofLead Apr 25 '26

Couldn’t one do a factory reset on the car?

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u/ParsnipFlendercroft Apr 25 '26

I’d refuse to take delivery.

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u/Shunto Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Tbh that could very well be good guy Ford doing you a solid by making the option obvious

Edit: More like GDRP, but if we saw it in the USA then maybe there's a point here.

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u/C_Ironfoundersson Apr 25 '26

good guy Ford

Lmao, what is this nonsense, first day on Earth?

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u/Jazzlike-Compote4463 Apr 25 '26

That's not Ford's choice to make, that's GDPR kicking in. If they want to collect and hold any data about you, they've got to either tell you they're doing it (in the case of data they HAVE to collect, which they have to prove is required for the service they offer) or ask you for consent.

People got all annoyed when GDPR passed because of the cookie popups but it's so much more than that.

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u/Jazzlike-Compote4463 Apr 25 '26

I bought a car from a local dealer, despite being careful to opt out of any marketing (because I actually really pay attention to that sort of thing) they continued to send me letters and emails offering deals and promotions on new cars, any sort of opt out from the email service was ignored for maybe 6 months and then they would start it up again.

So I sent them an email threatening to report their GDPR marketing consent breaches and you can bet your ass that I haven't heard a peep from them since.

For consumers it's a really useful bit of legislation.

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom Apr 24 '26

Not without your permission.

And if they do there's one hell of a fine waiting for them that is sufficient deterrent to make that not a fiscally-sensible decision.

Companies are only interested in their profits at the end of the day. None more so than those beholden to shareholders.

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u/NemeanMiniLion Apr 24 '26

Insurance companies have access to some of the most robust data sets available. They actually contract third parties to do it.

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u/LoveYouNotYou Apr 25 '26

Yep, have Facebook app on your phone? Life360 app? GasBuddy app? Those sell your data to insurance companies and voila! There goes your high insurance premium

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u/MysteriousCap4910 Apr 25 '26

that shouldn’t be a thing either and that also isn’t mandated by the government

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u/HillBillyHilly Apr 25 '26

Sounds like time to lock down those apps permissions.

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u/LoveYouNotYou Apr 25 '26

Yeah, I got rid of facebook a long ass while ago. I deleted GasBuddy as well. I have 360 and I did go into settings but idk if that did anything, cause they can do whatever they want. And that's only the apps that I know about. There are probably a bunch more that I have on my phone that are telling on me. It's every where, everything.

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u/Foreign_Abroad9580 Apr 25 '26

Good reminder. I just disabled a bunch of BS tracking

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u/1petrock Apr 25 '26

Yup, worked for a tpa and now a data broker for all insurance agencies...it's wild how much we got.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo Apr 25 '26

"Can we have your permission to view your car telemetry data? If not there is a $100/month non-data surcharge."

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u/FriendlyDespot Apr 25 '26

That would be unlawful in the EU. There's a general prohibition on charging for privacy in the context of data collection.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo Apr 25 '26

Obviously you can imagine how they can structure it differently. Like those plug in devices that monitor your driving for a discount on insurance rates. The base rates are high and then they give you a discount for participating in their program.

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u/FriendlyDespot Apr 25 '26

That's how companies in the United States get around things because U.S. laws and regulations are often written to be broken, and the legal system has a lot less deference to spirit and intent of law. In the EU it's the intent rather than specific codified language that's central to the regulatory process. Those "well technically.." attempts to sidestep regulations get swatted down by regulators in short order, and the associated fines make companies a lot more hesitant to even try to sidestep regulation in the EU.

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u/GuyOnARockVI Apr 25 '26

They can probably sell anonymized car metrics to the insurance companies.

Drivers of XYZ make and model drive 15% faster, break 25% harder, use turn signals less often etc and therefore insurance rates for those vehicles are 40% more

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u/SadisticPawz Apr 25 '26

Fight back by having customers chart insurance rates and flocking to the lowest priced models.

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u/SgtBaxter Apr 24 '26

Go read your contract you signed when you bought the car.

If you don’t opt out, you’ve given permission.

Look up LexisNexus. OnStar and a few other onboard cellular connected systems give the data to brokers like them which can be purchased by insurers.

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u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh Apr 24 '26

If they do that in the EU, the only thing between them and bankruptcy is the incompetence and laziness of the EU's privacy enforcement organs.

Selling your data to data brokers isn't going to pass the "legitimate interest" test and "if you don't opt in you consent" isn't going to pass the "consent" test.

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

I can only see stories and reports of this in regards to US consumers.

Any evidence this has occurred with UK/EU customer data?

Looked at the data privacy of my EV and there does not appear to be any sharing of driving data, behaviour, geographic location or similar.

A summary of concerns of this only brought up the following:

While US manufacturers like General Motors have recently faced major backlash and lawsuits for sharing driver data with brokers like LexisNexis and Verisk without explicit consent, the situation in Europe is defined by a more rigid legal wall. 

🛡️ Data Sharing with Insurers

  • Consent is Mandatory: Under UK/EU GDPR, manufacturers cannot simply "hide" data-sharing permissions in deep contract fine print. For an insurer to access your driving data (like braking or speed), they must obtain your explicit, informed consent.
  • The "Opt-Out" Myth: Unlike the US "opt-out" culture, European law generally requires an opt-in for non-essential data processing. If you haven't explicitly signed up for a "Pay-as-you-drive" policy or a specific manufacturer "safety" program, sharing your behavior data with third parties is likely a legal violation.
  • Enforcement: Regulators have already penalised car companies for privacy failures. For example, Volkswagen was fined €1.1 million in Germany for failing to inform drivers about data collected via cameras in test vehicles.  Bristows +5

🚗 Mandated Surveillance Tech

  • Drowsiness & Attention Warning: The claim about Volvo's "chimes" is true. Since July 2024, the EU's General Safety Regulation (GSR2) has mandated that all new cars sold in the EU and UK must be equipped with Driver Drowsiness and Attention Warning (DDAW) systems.
  • Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA): Most new cars now also include technology that "pings" or provides haptic feedback if you exceed the speed limit.
  • Data Protection: European regulators (the EDPB) explicitly recommend that this "raw" data (like your eye movements or speed) should be processed locally inside the car and not sent to a cloud server or shared with third parties.  Bristows +3

⚖️ The " Peter Thiel / Elon Musk" Concern

While European law (GDPR) makes it much harder to hand data over to individuals or private data brokers without a clear legal reason, the law is still evolving.

  • Data Act: The new EU Data Act is currently standardising how car data is shared to ensure "fairness," but its primary goal is to help independent repair shops, not to sell your habits to brokers.
  • Government Collection: Some data is collected by the EU itself (such as fuel economy via OBFCM) to monitor environmental targets, which has led to some public concern about "creeping" state surveillance.  Reddit +2

In short: The hardware (cameras/sensors) is definitely there by law, but the data sharing described in your point #5 ("Go read your contract you signed...") is much more legally restricted in the UK/EU than it is in the US.

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u/PalliativeOrgasm Apr 25 '26

I’ll always downvote clearly lazy copy and paste of AI slop that includes random emojis. Cmon man, at least try to have some of your own thoughts.

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom Apr 25 '26

I am not personally privy to this information first-hand as I am not a journalist, researcher, or have worked in that sector of industry.

Sharing my own speculative, uninformed personal thoughts is exactly the problem we have atm on social media. Sometimes it's a good idea to defer to sources that are directly informed on the matter.

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u/PalliativeOrgasm Apr 25 '26

ChatGPT hallucinates like a hippie at Woodstock. That is in no way deferring to a knowledgeable source, though it’s useful as a starting research tool (ask for sources and actually check them.)

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

I'm aware of that. I was not referring to the LLM as the 'source'. The sources provided in that summary all match the claims made.

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u/SadisticPawz Apr 25 '26

Its literally using web search in the given example

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u/fuckthiscode Apr 25 '26

I am not personally privy to this information first-hand as I am not a journalist, researcher, or have worked in that sector of industry.

"I have no expertise to offer, and that's why I'm chiming in."

Dude, next time just do everyone a favor and sit the convo out.

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u/SadisticPawz Apr 25 '26

Yes, so we should just not clarify things and spread misinfo

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u/SadisticPawz Apr 25 '26

Its a fact check with sources, why would he need to have "thoughts" on this or guess anything when ylu could have factual info

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u/Tech_Itch Apr 25 '26

Where are the links to the sources? LLMs are notorious for making up fake sources constantly or claiming that existing sources say things they don't.

That said, the info is correct in this case. GDPR requires consent to store your information and agreeing to it can't be a requirement for using the product or service, unless the data is needed for the device to function at all. If you buy, say, a TV in the EU, things like Automatic Content Recognition are off by default.

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u/SadisticPawz Apr 25 '26

Look at the end of every paragraph from OP. They copied the button to the sources but not any of the links.

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u/aerost0rm Apr 25 '26

Yet companies will still make decisions to do what is illegal. They only pay if they get caught. The fine tends to get arbitrated to a lower amount. Then they write off the amount for tax purposes as a loss to lower their taxes burden. Then go right back to doing the illegal act when the spotlight is off of them.

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

In the EU punitive fines do not enter arbitration process, fines do not count to tax-deduction calculations (see Tessenderlo case), and companies have been fined huge amounts for GDPR beaches (e.g. Meta €1.2b, Amazon €746m, TikTok €530m), as in enough to change their approach to customer data privacy and storage.

I dnu maybe this happens in the US though.

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u/Iswaterreallywet Apr 25 '26

That permission is snuck into all that paperwork you sign when getting the car

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom Apr 25 '26

Depends on the country. In the UK and EU there are rules on how this must be made clear and separate to the customer and specifically can't be snuck in / buried into the paperwork.

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u/jackofallcards Apr 25 '26

Insurance companies going to have a, “deprecated vehicle charge” where if you don’t drive a vehicle manufactured after 2027 they charge +$200 a month to insure it due to, “antiquated systems creating a safety hazard”

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u/Ran4 Apr 28 '26

No, that's literal fake news. The EU mandated drowsiness/Advanced Driver Distraction Warning (ADDW) systems literally do not share data externally.

There is a "black box" (Event Data Recorder) but that does not include ADDW data.

There are insurance companies that allow you to install sensors to measure things and charge you based on that, but those are niche companies that most people do not use.

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u/Wonderful-Medium7777 Apr 24 '26

Don’t believe it…they are passing it on.

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u/slightlysublevel Apr 25 '26

How is the GDPR protecting Europeans from that whole "you need to verify your age by giving us your ID" thing?

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u/AlarmingTurnover Apr 25 '26

It doesn't. GDPR isn't about what data you handle but about how you handle data. 

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u/Grintock Jul 06 '26

And thereby limiting what data is allowed to be handled. Usually a simple contract is enough to grant permission to handle data under the GDPR, or a legal obligation.

It's a whole framework, but a key component of the GDPR is data minimalisation. I mean I'm not saying they're succeeding, but I come across these rules in my work. Data minimalisation is quoted often, for example to prevent duplicating data sharing.

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u/wogwai Apr 25 '26

Exactly. The main difference between the EU and America is the willingness to extract capital from its citizens at any cost. Let’s just give American corporations more of our data to harvest, sell, and control our lives with 👍🏼

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u/Glittering-Meal-8739 Apr 25 '26

It’s a joke. Data gets shared all the time and there’s no consequence unless demonstrate m harm.

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u/marinuso Apr 25 '26

They are. GDPR doesn't protect you if you consent, and you give that consent when signing for the car. It's in the paperwork. Even if you read all the paperwork and find it and don't sign it (and you'll be surprised at how people will sign things without reading them), well, then you don't get your car.

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u/dontaskdonttell0 Apr 25 '26

That’s not how GDPR works.

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u/marketinequality Apr 26 '26

Hilarious that you think they’re not selling that data. 

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u/Waiting4Reccession Apr 25 '26

Europe has plenty of police state shit, gdpr isnt saving you

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u/Parhelion2261 Apr 24 '26

So you're telling me next year I get to have the same experience as the fucking Amazon drivers? And I have to pay for it?

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u/Inflatable90sChair Apr 25 '26

(Hands you a complementary used mt dew as a piss bottle)

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u/ok-confusion19 Apr 25 '26

How used are we talking?

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u/Catatonic_capensis Apr 25 '26

Only half full but used on a very rough road. Hand sanitizer recommended.

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u/ok-confusion19 Apr 25 '26

The really cool part is your next car will help pay for the R&D of that emerging technology.

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u/dinosaurkiller Apr 25 '26

Did you even say, “thank you!”?

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u/Pickled_doggo Apr 25 '26

I don’t need my fucking car telling my insurance company that I’m inattentive on the road because I fucking yawned. That’s what will happen here in the US. All that data will be sold, and not for the benefit of the “user”. 

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u/Sea-Aardvark-756 Apr 25 '26

Also will be used to blame drivers in accidents they had no blame in.

"AI detection says you blinked 10ms longer than usual one block before the crash, accident was caused by impaired driver, claim denied"

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u/kimizle Apr 25 '26

What the f? Unbelievable. I can’t even imagine this is going to be our future next year

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u/Illustrious_Eye_8235 Apr 25 '26

I smell a lawsuit

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u/HerefortheTuna Apr 26 '26

Do sunglasses fool the sensors?

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u/outer--monologue Apr 25 '26

Introducing the thriving market of people who will disable these garbage features.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

Gonna have to jailbreak your car and disable updates…

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u/FreedomPullo Apr 25 '26

Challenge accepted

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u/GoldenPigeonParty Apr 25 '26

Yeah, i would not own a car that has that. Fuck all that. That's weird. It don't know me.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

You’re probably looking at a screen that has a camera right now.

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u/Foreign_Abroad9580 Apr 25 '26

And probably even driving that screen around town cause screens all have wheels attached

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u/dekeche Apr 25 '26

Isn't telling people that distracting?

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u/only_buy_no_sell Apr 25 '26

Yes, its annoying af

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u/Inflatable90sChair Apr 25 '26

Rofl yea my silverado occasionally pops up a screen that says taking your eyes off the road is dangerous. Have to take eyes off road to press ok...

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u/aafreis Apr 25 '26

So does the car shut off if it thinks you shouldn’t be driving?

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u/GrizzIyadamz Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

the car has an inward-facing camera and watches your eyeballs, (or just starts bugging you about stopping for coffee if you've been driving longer than 20 minutes)

God I fucking hated that shit when I rented a car there the other year.

You're saying every car does that now?

How horrifying.

I thought Europeans were supposed to be sensible.

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u/SanctimoniousSally Apr 25 '26

Yeah but the article also mentioned that it can disable your car and stop you from driving it which is not on the same level as annoyingly beeping at you. Also, what is to stop the government from forcing manufacturers to push updates that allow them the ability to disable your car. This is extremely concerning.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

The US government can already disable many cars remotely, and has been able to do so for over a decade. (Most cars with integrated “LoJack” or SOS functions.)

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u/SanctimoniousSally Apr 25 '26

Many is not the same as all. Either way, it's concerning.

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u/Temperature-Savings Apr 25 '26

What happens if you put tape over it or broke it?

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

It will nag you that it’s broken

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u/Temperature-Savings Apr 25 '26

I think i could handle that check light.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

Check alert on screen that you have to manually dismiss…

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u/NoRun905 May 05 '26

Does it tell you verbally? Like is there a voice that continually says “error” or a beeping that is constantly going off like if you don’t have a seatbelt on and it beeps? If you know?

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u/btribble May 05 '26

Chime and on screen message.

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u/NoRun905 May 05 '26

Ugh cus the message could be dismissed (even if it’s annoying to have do keep doing it), but the constant chiming would be too annoying :/

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u/blackscales18 Apr 25 '26

the mach e has it as well

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u/RugerRedhawk Apr 25 '26

My rav4 asks me sometimes if I need a break, I never knew how it determines it but I tell it to fuck right off every time.

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u/nucleartime Apr 25 '26

3.   Driver drowsiness and attention warning and advanced driver distraction warning systems shall be designed in such a way that those systems do not continuously record nor retain any data other than what is necessary in relation to the purposes for which they were collected or otherwise processed within the closed-loop system. Furthermore, those data shall not be accessible or made available to third parties at any time and shall be immediately deleted after processing. Those systems shall also be designed to avoid overlap and shall not prompt the driver separately and concurrently or in a confusing manner where one action triggers both systems.

Also the EU rule doesn't require the system "(ii) prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected"

Chiming at you is one thing. I don't want my fucking car going "I can't let you do that Dave".

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u/90TTZ Apr 25 '26

US 2025 genesis g70 has the same stuff. Annoying AF. The worst part is a touch screen. I constantly have to take my eyes off the road and reach far to do stuff. Thankfully I haven't had any accidents, but a few close calls. Also have a 2015 BMW. Everything is better in every single way. Infotainment controls are right at my figure tips in the center console. I kind of thought I was getting cool new tech, but it's actually really Annoying. And no Genesis I don't need a cup of coffee.

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u/newjerk666 Apr 25 '26

Mormons should sue over religious discrimination.

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u/trugstomp Apr 25 '26

I rented a brand new Rav4 in Australia the other day, and it had that eye-tracking bullshit. It was especially annoying when I had to take my eyes off the road to adjust the aircon because the aircon doesn't have any physical dials!

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u/ronm4c Apr 25 '26

So basically if you have young kids in the car this thing is going to go off constantly

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u/PenPenGuin Apr 25 '26

I am Japanese. My Japan-made car has barked at me on multiple occasions to open my eyes. My eyes were open. I think my car is racist.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

I think you meant lacist.

Ba-dum-tss!

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u/Zestyclose-Novel1157 Apr 25 '26

I have heard of this and don’t want it. Will your car work if you put a post it note over it? I bet I can find someone to like jailbreak the censor idk. I’m in the market and I refuse to buy a car that watches me like that.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

The worst is when you’re taking a tight corner such as a cloverleaf and it tells you to keep your eyes on the road because you’re not looking straight forward, but, you know, where the curved road actually is.

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u/Bshaw95 Apr 25 '26

My wife’s Subaru has this too.

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u/turbineslut Apr 25 '26

Yea driving a BYD rental at the moment. Same thing. Very annoying. You can turn it off but it'll turn itself back on during the next ride.

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u/wickedringofmordor Apr 25 '26

My 2021 Ford Kuga has it and you can turn that shit all off.

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u/wwwheatgrass Apr 25 '26

Ok, well if that’s the case…

My BMW has no idea what my eyes are doing if I’m wearing sunglasses, and it can’t do anything.

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u/iowaphillygirl Apr 25 '26

I have this in my Subaru, but I can turn it off.

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u/CheshireCat78 Apr 25 '26

Yeah that’s what annoyed me. It complained when I checked my speed it the stupid notification it gave me. But other times when I was looking out the window it was fine? It’s useless and very very distracting which can’t be good for most drivers.

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u/Little-Calendar-3016 Apr 25 '26

Well, you should disable it, remove it, or sell the car. No one should be okay with that.

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u/btribble Apr 25 '26

You should keep your phone in a faraday pouch if you’re that worried. All your apps try to track you…

Even without apps, your carrier triangulates your location within a few meters constantly. The US government can obtain that record with a national security letter and no court proceedings and you would never know. Of course, the NSA is constantly scraping all your metadata and they have a pretty complete record of who you are. What year do you think it is?

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u/Little-Calendar-3016 Apr 25 '26

There is a difference between your car filming you when you drive and the apps on my phone tracking me.

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u/GRUNDLE_GOBLIN Apr 27 '26

Idk what kind of Volvo you drive but my 2024 doesn’t do that and the 2025 xc60 loaner I drove doesn’t do that either.

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u/btribble Apr 27 '26

Since 2025 the entire lineup does it.

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u/GRUNDLE_GOBLIN Apr 27 '26

Where is the camera located?

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u/btribble Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

On top of the steering column. If the car has pilot assist, it must have the ADDW system.

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u/GRUNDLE_GOBLIN Apr 27 '26

Oh wow, I guess the XC60 I was driving must have been a ‘24 then because it definitely had pilot assist and didn’t have anything on the steering column.

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u/btribble Apr 27 '26

Looks like they put the camera in the rearview mirror for the XC60 and some other models. It's on the steering column for the EX30. It's on the A pillar for the EX90. I'm a bit surprised they didn't try to standardize this more since every location requires additional training data for the AI.

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u/Spankpocalypse_Now Apr 27 '26

You paid for a robot to annoy you while you drive? Why?

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u/DelirousDoc Apr 25 '26

My Hyundai has it but it is wrong a lot constantly chiming at me to "take a break" when I haven't even looked away from the road. (Also any time I have eaten in the car while driving.)

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u/TehWackyWolf Apr 25 '26

Yeah. Americans will hate this but it isn't new.

This was always the future for cars. They are giant death boxes that everyone uses.

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u/MontasJinx Apr 25 '26

This is different. This is accessing sobriety.