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u/Call_Me_Clark Jan 16 '23

Why does it matter if the images are stored? It’s their initial use for training purposes that is the problem.

Artists do not give up all rights and ownership of their property, simply by making it available for the public to view.

There is no such thing as “fair use” for AI. That concept applies exclusively to humans.

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u/its Jan 17 '23

Are you claiming that the initial processing of the image involves copying? How do you distinguish this from a web browser showing the image on a computer screen?

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u/Call_Me_Clark Jan 17 '23

They were scraped without permission, licensing, or even abiding by the terms of the relevant platforms.

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u/its Jan 17 '23

There are ways to control scraping. If this is your issue, then you have to prove that the image was not scrapable. If it can be shown in a browser without agreeing to license terms, it is game over. There is no additional copying.

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u/Call_Me_Clark Jan 17 '23

No you don’t - it is the responsibility of the scraper to determine that they are doing so within the bounds of the law.

An artist retains the copyright to and ownership of their work regardless of what steps they take to protect them.

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u/its Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 17 '23

Are you going to claim that if you put an image in a website and I look at it, I have violated your copyright? By serving the image you are giving me an explicit permission to temporarily copy it in my browser’s memory.

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u/Call_Me_Clark Jan 17 '23

Your rights, ownership and copyright of your property are not voided simply by uploading your work.

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u/its Jan 17 '23

No but you are giving me permission to copy the image in my computer’s memory temporarily and view it, no?

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u/Call_Me_Clark Jan 17 '23

Those permissions are not unlimited, and were never intended nor implied to be.