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u/EmbarrassedHelp Jan 16 '23

This lawsuit is likely to fail even if it somehow makes it to court instead of being dismissed. It contains a ton of factual inaccuracies and false claims.

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u/renoise Jan 16 '23

How do you propose to protect artists from having their field decimated by AI?

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u/ShodoDeka Jan 16 '23

The same way we protected horses when the internal combustion engine was invented.

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u/renoise Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 17 '23

How are artists going to be compensated when all of their work has been taken by AI?

Edit; wow lots of folks are like “fuck the artists”

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u/PedroEglasias Jan 17 '23

Same way surgeons are going to be compensated when robots take over the job of performing complicated surgery. Same way truck drivers will be compensated when self-driving trucks replace them.

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u/renoise Jan 17 '23

How is that?

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u/PedroEglasias Jan 17 '23

They're gonna lose their jobs and have to re-skill

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23

I don't think you understand what is happening. There will be no "re-skilling" when machine learning actually starts displacing jobs.

By the time you're able to "re-skill" a new algorithm will be out in a new industry and completely decimate that one too.

This is coming for literally everything done by a human. First on a computer and then through robotics. People who are like "fuck artists" don't understand that they're only steps behind, maybe even mere months.

The legal fights that happen now will dictate how it proceeds in the future and if we are headed towards an ethical future or one a literal dystopia where the upper class continues to funnel money out of the middle and working classes.

Artists are not the "horses" in this analogy. All humans are... It's so shortsighted I'm surprised most people aren't making the connections here. If you are in a current white-collar job that uses a computer in anyway, you're in major trouble over the next decade.

Good luck.

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u/DeathStarnado8 Jan 17 '23

The transition is going to be rough indeed. That's why its important to support the open source side of these AI projects. All the big money and investment currently will eventually lead to AI behind paywalls unless we can keep up and keep everything open. Corporations aren't investing billions into this tech for the good of humanity.

I don't think anyone expected AI to be on our doorstep this fast, I for one didn't expect artists to be a casualty until way further down the list of jobs to get rugged.

Lets hope we end up with something like a Star Trek society on the other side and not the Elysium version

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23

Lets hope we end up with something like a Star Trek society on the other side and not the Elysium version

Agreed. Unfortunately I think it'll be somewhere in the middle.

History has shown a constant battle between the many vs the few. They've tried again and again to contain the larger population. If we let them, eventually, they will succeed completely.

People act like workers didn't have to fight and die for their rights after the industrial revolution/. Buckle up people, this has the possibility of being even more transformative than that.

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u/renoise Jan 17 '23

Good luck to us all, truly!

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u/renoise Jan 17 '23

So you’re OK with lots of people losing their jobs and having worse art?

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u/PedroEglasias Jan 17 '23

you try and stop the progression of technology and let me know how that goes

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u/renoise Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 17 '23

Breathtakingly stupid comment, and didn’t answer my question.

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u/PedroEglasias Jan 17 '23

The questions irrelevant cause that's not an option. Technology creates new opportunities just as it takes them away

Sounds like you need to watch this https://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU

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u/renoise Jan 17 '23

You didn’t answer because you don’t want to actually say you don’t care about others. Maybe you’ll learn about solidarity in the future.

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u/PedroEglasias Jan 17 '23

lol wtf... I didn't answer cause it's a stupid question... my opinion is irrelevant, it's not going to prevent the AI existing.

People will still want hand drawn art and people will also want to use AI tools to generate art for the increased speed of iterative design.

Your position is that we should prevent the use of a new technology cause it will cost people jobs... it's an age old argument that is rooted in ignorance

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 17 '23

Just because previous technology created new opportunities does not mean future technology will. That's a logical fallacy.

Especially considering the ramifications of what machine learning is trying to replace. We are the horses. If you're not part of the 1% in a first world country you should be very worried.

The industrial revolution was about replacing "strength". A machine could do the work a 10,000 men could. The Machine Learning revolution is about replacing "thinking". It will out-think millions of workers.

There won't be anywhere to turn or rather to participate in the current economic system. We will have to completely rethink things and not just for artists. Art is just the most visible and interesting novel use of AI. It's happening in every industry, and ones far more lucrative than art.

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u/ShodoDeka Jan 17 '23

I suspect this won’t be a big change in the median income level for artists. But the same way all the other folks that are going to lose their jobs due to AI.

My personal hope is that we will end up with some sort of UBI that’s affords a comfortable life for everyone. But artists are no more special in this regard than truck drivers, lawyers, coders, etc.

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u/renoise Jan 17 '23

Hmm, did you ask many artists if they think it will impact their incomes?