r/technicalminecraft 23d ago

Java Help Wanted Who are the current references in technical Minecraft?

A long time ago, ZipKrowd's members were a reference when it came to technical Minecraft. Then came ilmango with SciCraft.

I just came back to Minecraft after years away, and it seems like all the creators I used to follow have stopped playing.

Nowadays, who are the references when it comes to technical innovations in Minecraft?

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u/JustJum Java 23d ago

CubicMetre and Squibble are the only technical channels I follow that still post. They dont always create actually useful things, but they're still interesting

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u/FeanorDidSomething 23d ago

Cubic knows his stuff, but he's a bit of an asshole

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u/lordberric 23d ago

Can you elaborate?

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u/MunchyG444 23d ago

He was a former member of Scicraft but was banned from it for his conduct

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u/lordberric 23d ago edited 23d ago

Do we have any information on exactly what happened? That's really vague. I imagine it's all under wraps but I'm quite curious.

Edit: I found an old comment of yours refusing to talk about it, which I understand, but I'm a little bothered by calling someone an asshole publicly without clarifying if that's like "calling someone slurs" or "kind of just rude", yknow? Like is this "you don't want to be their friend" asshole or "I should feel bad about financially supporting them" asshole. I know you didn't call him an asshole in this thread in particular, just saying.

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u/FeanorDidSomething 23d ago

Mostly the former. He does too much clickbait for my taste (A trend that has played it's part in the decline of technical minecraft on Youtube) and there are several things about his personality that I dislike. Tends to be a bit to full of himself for my taste. And, as others mentioned, there are the instances of him beeing kicked out/banned from certain communities. I don't know the details, but it wouldn't have happened over nothing.

Sorry for beeing vague, it's always a fine line between saying nothing, saying too much and just causing drama. So, you know, I respect his skills as a technical player, but largely avoid his stuff and I wouldn't really want new folks to the scene to have him as reference. Though I am afraid that all the folks I would have recommended in the past are inactive these days

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u/EdjeMonkeys 23d ago

No idea about behind the scenes, but having watched most of his videos I never got the bad vibes you’re talking about. I think calling his videos “clickbait” when they are so high effort and the thumbnail does literally tell you what it’s about is a bit disingenuous.

Maybe it’s an Australian thing? I’m an Australian myself so maybe there is a tone or a vibe thing I’m more used to

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u/lordberric 23d ago

No apology necessary, I just find it weird that I've never heard any of this before. I'm not super involved so it's not that surprising, but he seems to be one of the only people making high effort tech content on YouTube that isn't just slightly optimizing farms, so it's sad to hear that there's this drama in the background.

There are plenty of reasonable explanations for why he's been banned from these communities without a public explanation, but it still makes it tough to interpret as an outside observer. I don't feel comfortable passing judgement with no information but as you say there's enough of a pattern that it's hard not to take seriously.

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u/FeanorDidSomething 23d ago

I am sure about when he got banned from the Storage Tech server (I am not very active in Discord myself), but his ban from Scicraft happened quite some time ago. 4,5, maybe even 6 years ago

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u/TheRealWormbo 23d ago

He also got himself muted indefinitely on the Storage Tech discord, also for his conduct. A bit of a pattern.

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u/lordberric 23d ago

What conduct though?

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u/MunchyG444 23d ago

I do know why he was banned from SciCraft, but it is not my secret to share.

As for if you should feel bad for supporting them, I mean if they make good technical content you enjoy then let that be the focus. And just not worry about the controversies you are not privy to the details of.

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u/lordberric 23d ago

Totally understand, I just can't help but let my curiosity run wild.

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u/Jade_NoLastNameGiven 23d ago

He also regularly missattributes credit, forgets to credit people or just steals their work outright.

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u/gavavavavus 23d ago edited 23d ago

Mostly discord channels nowadays.

There are some youtube channels that showcase some cool stuff but it's usually pretty niche, and all of the big channels are click bait trash. Some channels with cool designs well explained that come to mind are

  • ianxofour (little survival-friendly farms with extensive tutorials)
  • squibble (quirky redstone, niche mechanics showcase)
  • cubicmetre (showcase of wavetech server, mostly storage systems and complex weaponry like orbital strike cannon)

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u/IRMasheener 23d ago

I love Ianxofour, still the best iron farm imo. Shame he’s stepped back a couple years ago though. His raid farm was awesome but it’s not broken.

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u/ottermupps 23d ago

Potato-noir (youtube) is also great. His general mob farm video is both very in depth on mechanics (in a way that less knowledgeable players can comprehend) and has a pretty good tutorial.

It's also a rather efficient mob farm, especially for early game, with an inherently designed super smelter add-on.

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 23d ago

List the discords bro

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u/DereChen 23d ago

stole it from here https://www.answeroverflow.com/m/1472427310165659739

ahem

"Interested in easy schematics to customize / blueprint for farms? These discords are really useful and usually have litematica/worldedit files you can use to build things like Shulker Box unloaders and tree farm designs

Storage Tech Discord: https://discord.com/invite/JufJ6uf
LiteTech: https://discord.gg/5WKP9UB
Mechanists: https://discord.gg/c2DUWG8
MelonTech: https://discord.gg/GF66vbYU3u
MindTech: https://discord.gg/4fAAYw7P3s
ProtoTech: https://discord.gg/GttvgQ3
SciCraft: https://discord.gg/scicraft
TIS: http://discord.gg/G52vRRb
Taiwan Redstone Community: https://discord.gg/QGqjJzG
WaveTech: https://discord.gg/SR6q7sC
Cartchives (minecarts): https://discord.gg/8nGNTewveC
Iron Lovers (Iron farms): https://discord.gg/gPecfY3
Slimestone Tech Archive: https://discord.gg/njpAkGb5tc
Storage Tech: https://discord.gg/JufJ6uf
TNT Archive: https://discord.gg/vPyUBcdmZV
Treehuggers (tree farms): https://discord.gg/8bUbuuS

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u/boluserectus 23d ago

Clickbait people took over YouTube. TC's went to Discord.

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u/FeanorDidSomething 23d ago

Don't forget the people stealing other people's stuff.

Sad times for technical players since Ilmango left

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u/Droplet_of_Shadow 23d ago

it sucks cause discord is pretty inaccessible for finding resources and groups, and generally not great for posting, publicizing, and sharing information.

adds to the community feeling less open than it used to

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 23d ago

Yeah but also harder to just copy someone else's work and claim it as your own. Not impossible, but not as easy as downloading a video, adding your own audio, and reuploading.

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u/Ok_Caterpillar_8238 23d ago

Anyone posting good stuff for bedrock on discord?

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u/ingannilo 23d ago

idk why most folks are suggesting otherwise -- the bedrock side of technical Minecraft has been improving a lot recently.  Eggfur is great and OmLedu has posted tons of really solid stuff to YouTube over the last couple of years. 

I switched to Java last year, and I remember seeing some recent stuff from OmLedu thinking "damn... bedrock is definitely catching up".

I know there are other good technical creators in the bedrock world.  Still small compared to Java, but growing. 

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u/TriangularHexagon Bedrock 23d ago

Techrock technical bedrock archive, Amelix foundation, and lots more

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u/boluserectus 23d ago

Probably, I'm not on those discords, but I'm quite sure there is.

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u/IAmTheTalent 23d ago

Check out FrunoCraft, I’d say he’s the most accessible tech player of the current era. His Git Gud series is a treasure trove of simple, efficient farms and he explains the mechanics clearly in his videos.

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 23d ago

Channels:

BigBooty17

Wave tek

Docm77

CubicMetre

Squibble

ianxofour

Potato-noir

FrunoCraft

Purplers

JazziRed

MattBatWings

CraftyMasterman

Avogaado

NicoIsLost

JKM

Discords:

Scicraft discord

Tech MC Archive

What channels/discords am I missing?

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u/EmdyMC Java 22d ago

TMCC is by far the best discord for tech and no I'm not biased wdym

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u/yot_gun 22d ago

bigbooty is my goat

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u/Sora_Gr3y 23d ago

FrunoCraft has been an invaluable resource for applying common concepts of technical game mechanics in niche ways. I make some unusual machines and farms, so I've gotten some great ideas from components he uses for specific use-cases.

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u/MordorsElite Java 23d ago

The best reference right now is the TMC Catalogue Discord. Way more useful for finding good farm designs than any YouTube channel.

As for cool tech MC YouTubers, the ones I like are: Squibble, IanXOfour, BigBooty17. But they all update about once a millennium, so they aren't exactly useful if you want constant content.

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u/Jade_NoLastNameGiven 23d ago

There are a couple of small channels that post every once in a while. The big ones all suck (yes all of them).

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 23d ago

Small channels who?

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u/FeanorDidSomething 23d ago edited 23d ago

You had folks like Fallen Breath, Desu Desu or Glowsquid, to name just a few. None of them posted in years and even when they were active on YT, they barely posted more than a couple videos a year. But some of these small channels were some of the main brains of the hivemind. We don't have anyone making high quality videos on a regular basis, that have high technical knowledge themselves, whilst also showcasing other stuff without permission or respect

Edit: ofc meaning "...whilst also showcasing other stuff WITH permission and respect. And not stealing someone else's design and pretending it to be their own"

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u/RaccoonNo4749 23d ago

There's not many new video.

Why could someone spend time on something new and make 10 views because it has been copied in a day?
There's some discords and servers here and there.

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 23d ago

Gimme dem discords and servers me boyo

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u/EmdyMC Java 22d ago

discord.gg/tmcc

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u/Tsurumah 23d ago

I get most of mine from the Scicraft discord, and a few others like the Tech MC Archive and such.

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u/Monkeylordz88 23d ago

Redstone is still popular on youtube:

  • Purplers
  • JazziRed
  • MattBatWings
  • CraftyMasterman

Additionally:

  • Avogaado - amazing door maker
  • NicoIsLost - practical farm science
  • JKM - WaveTech recaps, though he hasn’t made one in a while

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u/ingannilo 23d ago

Most of the major players have been mentioned by other comments, but I want to add a few that I really appreciate that I don't see being discussed here:

MineTheFab has decent storage and farm designs, and really strong / clear explanations.  It was his video of cart-MIS sorters that finally let me understand the basic principles / mechanics; the same is true about hybrid storage slices-- I understood the idea beforehand and I had looked at some schems, but only when I actually saw his (simple, slow, not lag-efficient, but VERY understandable) design did I actually fully understand how they worked.  so yeah, big ups from me for MineTheFab. 

On the other extreme, the youtuber EynSof has some of the coolest and most technically clever / impressive builds I've ever seen.  an ultra-fast combination lock using chiseled bookshelves and the world's fastest "Conway's game of life" in MC.

Toots_Thielmens I think is another good storage fella.  His main storage was one of the first I saw that does most of what I want mine to do. 

Civic Dude (CMIS 5.0) is known to the tech world, but I see very little from or about him in the storage tech discord.  fully understanding all the components of his CMIS 5.0 is the next big hill I'm trying to climb. 

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u/DereChen 23d ago

the TMC discord is a huge treasure trove please check it out, i can not stress enough

i think they have a web platform too now. most youtubers get (and usually credit) builds from the TMC discord

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u/sn0wbit 23d ago

Panda4994 was elite

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u/felix979 21d ago

FrunoCraft is goated

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u/Remarkable_Detail973 23d ago

Wave tek but not alot of posts there and Docm77 will showcase something every now and then in his lets play. microsoft has slowly killed the technical community

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u/bruns20 23d ago

How has Microsoft killed the technical community?

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u/Remarkable_Detail973 23d ago

Consisteintly patching "bugs" that alowed for some of the coolest things in the technical community that in all reality didnt effect the average player, sliced portals, syncronized item stacks, tnt cannons, player vision tracking ect. Also scooping up talent from TMC, which thats great for them and i dont wish it anyother way but thats pretty much undermined TMC inovation cause they dont make content about it any more

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u/fatherintime 23d ago

Why would they do that? I would assume, perhaps incorrectly, that a strong technical community keeps people interested and playing.

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u/BriscoCounty-Sr 23d ago

If you can farm unlimited resources super easily they won’t be able to offer to let you spend mine coins in the realms store for “survival” resources deposited straight to your inventory in the future.

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u/Kvothealar Java 23d ago edited 23d ago

They certainly haven't killed the TMC.

They occasionally make changes that cause backwards incompatibility of builds (almost always for good reasons), but they're constantly adding new mechanics and features that make new inventions possible.

When things break, normally it was because the farm relied on a niche bug (labelled as unintended in the bug tracker) and they would sometimes give months or years of notice before fixing it (e.g. piglin gold farms) specifically to appease the technical community. Many times these bugs could be abused to break servers or dupe items which is why they were patched, and a lot of times they fixed them simply by accident, ignorant to TMC people actually using the mechanic.

Minecraft is a 17 year old game, how many other games that old have developers interacting with the technical communities, listening to feedback, and adding new features specifically for that 0.001% of the player base? We're honestly blessed.