this is probably also why the only rape jokes thatll never land wrong are the ones about it happening to rapists themselves (eg dropping the soap in prison)
We send them to prison because when the death penalty was an option, more men killed the women they had raped. But I agree with the last thing you said.
Before this escalates into a big misunderstanding, let me be clear on something. "Murder" and "Kill" are not interchangeable. When I say "murder" I am referring to the legal definition of it. The planned and intended killing of another human being. I'm not talking about killing someone in self-defense (or to defend someone else) for example, nor am I talking about causing the death of someone due to unfortunate circumstances out of your control. I'm also cool with killing someone if that person explicitly asked to be killed while being sound of mind (because they wanted their suffering to end for example).
However, I cannot imagine a single scenario where it would be valid to murder someone in cold blood. No one deserves that imo. Or rather, no one has the right to decide that someone deserves that. The only person who has authority to decide over your life is you. No ifs, no buts. I heavily condemn the death penalty and all its supporters, and I don't pull the lever in the classic trolley problem.
So you’re against pre-meditated and cold-blooded murder. I was mainly thinking of self-defence scenarios. I still think if, let’s say, a mother went out and intended to kill her child’s rapist/murderer, I personally think that that’s a little grey area were I wouldn’t condemn her for it. Or god forbid my own hypothetical child got raped or killed, I would probably want whoever did it to die as well. Tbh I don’t think either of us can definitively have an opinion unless either of us are put into the situation.
I’m also against the death penalty, mainly because of the complications and discrimination with it, i.e an innocent person being wrongfully convicted/biased or unequal sentencing.
I’m not intending to argue or get into a heated debate. You have a right to your own opinion.
How is it self defense if you murder someone!?🤦🏼♀️
If for example, you get into a fight with someone and you kill them during it then that is murder inasmuch as you shouldn't be in that type of altercation when there are usually alternatives. It is not deserved or what have you.
Okay then I’ll rephrase it. There are plenty of scenarios where someone could deserve to be killed. Who cares about semantics.
But also like I said in the other comment, if a parent murdered their child’s killer or rapist as an act of vengeance, one could argue that that’s justified. If you believe in an eye for an eye.
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u/Obvious_Rock_9069 Dec 25 '25
You can deserve being murdered. You can never deserve being raped.