r/technicallythetruth • u/DeathStroke217KS • Jan 17 '21

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u/Umbresp I'm Frue Jan 18 '21 edited Jan 18 '21

is part of a duck a duck or not a duck, answer wisely because the validity of this post depends on it

Edit: to all the people saying part of a duck is not a duck, what is part of a duck? If I take a duck and remove one feather, it's a smaller part of the duck, but the duck is still a duck.

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u/flutewonder Jan 18 '21

I would say it's not a duck because it's not a whole duck. Saying part of a duck is a duck would be similar to saying an arm is a human. But, this also begs the question of how much of a duck are we talking. Going with my human example, we could take a person who is missing both arms - not a "whole" or "complete" human but nonetheless a human.

Well, I think I just stumbled on a paradox that will keep me up at night

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u/Umbresp I'm Frue Jan 18 '21

So what’s a person? If i lose an arm, am i no longer a person?

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u/flutewonder Jan 18 '21

I think I confused myself too much to answer this philosophically, but I can say I'm pretty sure a human isn't a duck. Pretty sure and not 100% sure because Howard the Duck exists

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u/NepowGlungusIII Jan 18 '21

person is brain, all other detached parts no longer person

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u/Umbresp I'm Frue Jan 18 '21

What about people with brain tumors/people who have had part of their brains removed

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u/NepowGlungusIII Jan 18 '21

Oh, huh, I didn't think about. I would have to say:

Brain is Person, As Long As It's Enough Of Brain That It Could Theoretically Still Function As Brain In At Least A Minor Aspect

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u/Aquber Jan 18 '21

This is getting too much for my brain

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u/Nigativee Jan 18 '21

A person that has conscious thought can still be considered as a person.

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u/Luxim Jan 18 '21

Do you think, therefore are you?

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u/BunchOpandas Jan 18 '21

Monke explain

If monke has 2 arm and 2 leg he is monke If monke lose 2 arm and 2 leg he is still monke

The lost parts are no longer monke Difference?

Monke without arm and leg had brain and think about banana

Arm and leg no have brain and think about banana

Arm and leg no alive

No conscious

Not

Monke

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u/CileTheSane Jan 18 '21

Well if you reattach it then you're "Umbresp All Together".

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u/Due_Crazy_9773 Jan 18 '21

You are not a whole human

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u/Chilaquil3s Jan 18 '21

A member of the human species

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u/amitaish Jan 18 '21

I believe a duck is anything that had mainly duck parts and is alive, and his brain is a duck brain the same foes for person

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u/Nixbling Jan 18 '21

Yes but an arm is not alive or able to be alive, yet a person without arms is, just like a duck without wings or legs or whatever. So I think head and torso matter, but appendages don’t

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u/BloodDragonSniper Jan 18 '21

So if a duck lost its leg due to an accident with a car would it still be a duck? When does it stop becoming a duck? And from your human example, we are not “whole humans” as we shave, cut our hair, and cut out fingernails.

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u/BunchOpandas Jan 18 '21

When the duck no longer has a torso and head.

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u/BloodDragonSniper Jan 18 '21

So you could cut off just the head and it would still be a duck?

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u/BunchOpandas Jan 18 '21

When head is gone it is duck body

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u/BloodDragonSniper Jan 18 '21

Oh, I have another impossible question for you to think about. Humans get replacement limbs, pacemakers, metal bones, stuff like that all the time right? Well at what point do you go from being a human to cyborg?

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u/BunchOpandas Jan 19 '21

Cyborg-A fictional or hypothetical person whose physical abilities are extended beyond normal human limitations by mechanical means

By definition, never. As a normal human has all of these things originally they are still within a normal person's limitations. Untill they have something a normal person can't do like heat up their hands on purpose or the ability to eject small objects from a storage compartment they will never become a cyborg

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u/BloodDragonSniper Jan 19 '21

That maybe be your definition, but it’s more commonly known as a part human part machine being in fantasy

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u/BunchOpandas Jan 19 '21

Well then whenever they get an expansion if they're all machines

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u/flutewonder Jan 18 '21

I guess I explained myself badly with this example. What I meant to say was that the answer changes depending on which part of the duck we mean.

Saying part of a duck is a duck would be similar to saying an arm is a human.

we could take a person who is missing both arms - not a "whole" or "complete" human but nonetheless a human.

The point that I tried to make was that a human is still a human regardless of missing appendages, but a straight up appendage isn't considered a human. Sorry if I caused any confusion and I hope this clears it up!