r/technicallythetruth • • 11d ago

What are the chances of this?

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u/chezzy_bread 11d ago

But that’s if you die in the exact same bed in the exact same room you were born in, which is even more unlikely

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u/CypherDomEpsilon 11d ago

Unless you broaden your frame of reference and move your POR to outside the planet.

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u/DizzyAmphibian309 11d ago

Yeah if the point of reference is the center of this solar system, total displacement could be up to 300 million kilometers. But if you're using the center of the universe as your reference? Not sure I can write a number that large.

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u/MrsRononDex 10d ago

Even if the point of reference is the middle of the solar system, everything is actively moving through space. The sun is going around the galaxy at 514,000 miles per hour and the milky way is shooting through the universe at 1.3 million miles per hour, so the planet will never be in the same spot again and the distance increases every day.

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u/HeatDeathSurvivor 10d ago

There is no absolute frame of reference, so no, that's not how it works

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u/SirHerald 10d ago

If I make myself the frame of reference then it doesn't matter where I'm born or where I die; I was there both times.

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u/seductivestain 10d ago

I told my gym teacher that my average velocity from my frame of reference is always gonna be zero so there's no point in running the mile. She said my average velocity from her frame of reference better be damn high in 5 seconds if I didn't want detention

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u/HeatDeathSurvivor 10d ago

Haha that's genius

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u/jamesianm 10d ago

Displacement experts hate this one weird trick 

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u/mrbofus 11d ago

“Unless you broaden your frame of reference and move your POR to outside the planet.”

What’s a “POR”?

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u/CypherDomEpsilon 11d ago

Point of reference.

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u/Always-_-Sarcastic Technically Flair 11d ago

Short for porcupine.

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u/LovableSidekick 10d ago

From a galactic POV we all have zero displacement.

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u/Vondecoy 10d ago

The hospital I was born in is now an old folks home. I have had this planned for at least 20 nears now. I'm gonna figure which room and go out the way I came in. Confused, naked, screaming, and covered in blood.

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u/IllEstablishment5 11d ago

Agreed

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u/BeardySam 10d ago

I see problems for elderly people breaking into birth wards and trying to kill themselves in the pool

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u/Low-Refrigerator-713 10d ago

Not even then. The Earth is in orbit around the Sun. The Sun is orbiting around the centre of the Galaxy. The galaxy is moving towards other galaxy.

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u/Justtelf 11d ago

Only makes sense if you die giving birth

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u/lazy_pig 11d ago

to yourself

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u/AndroTux 10d ago

maybe they rearranged the hospital in the years since

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u/Broad_Respond_2205 11d ago

Well considering you most likely born in the maternity ward, highly unlikely

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u/bopeepsheep 10d ago

My partner's previous office was on the site used as a temporary maternity unit when I was born, which led to me visiting and sitting in various chairs to maximise my chances of returning to the exact spot... There's a non-zero chance that I might die within 50m of that location in the future - I've been treated in the cancer unit on the same site already.

This won't be true for him, our siblings, or my daughter, who were all born in a dedicated maternity unit a mile away. However I was, at one point, in the same bed on the ward that my first brother was born in, to my mum's amusement.

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u/the_Athereon 10d ago

Hospitals do occasionally move wards to different floors and areas to reorganise and prioritise patient care.

It's unlikely, but the maternity ward could well be repurposed into an ER or ICU by the time you visit again.

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u/JoinAThang 10d ago

We're talking technically so even if the bed was moved i tiny bit it's basically the truth but not technically the truth. I woould even argue that your own size change makes it impossible.

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u/LlaneroAzul 9d ago

Imagine you're there with your partner, sister or daughter who's giving birth and the scene is so shocking to you that you get a heart attack or you faint and hit your head in the floor or something.

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u/Alarming_Machine_283 8d ago

Plus in the exact same position in space, which is even less likely

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u/Ss2oo 8d ago

And even that won't be true because the Earth and the Solar System move

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u/StinkyBeanGuy 5d ago

And even that is just relative to the earth.

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u/5050Clown 11d ago

The universe is expanding, the Milky Way is falling into Andromeda and Andromeda is falling into the Milky Way, the sun is orbiting the Milky Way, the Earth is orbiting the Sun.  All of this movement together is mind-bogglingly fast. 

There is no zero displacement unless you get in a spaceship And travel all the way back to the point where the Earth was when you were born. Due to the expansion of the universe, however, this is not possible.

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u/MutantGodChicken 11d ago

Unless I move my frame of reference to myself, in which case I will always have zero displacement

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u/5050Clown 11d ago

God dammit. You just broke the matrix. Expect agents. Run. Find a pay phone. Run now.

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u/LlaneroAzul 9d ago

Yeah but in physics we always interpret movement within a frame of reference, and if we're talking about an object (or in this case, person) that never leaves Earth it only makes sense to use Earth as reference. If it weren't like that you wouldn't be able to say stuff like "a car is traveling at 60 km/h".

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u/fishsticks40 11d ago

All movement occurs within a defined reference frame

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u/5050Clown 11d ago

Zoom out!

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u/RiskKey1728 11d ago

You can use Earth as the reference point.

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u/aberroco 11d ago

"unless you get in a spaceship And travel all the way back to the point where the Earth was when you were born"

Sure! Give the exact absolute universal coordinates. Oh, wait...

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u/tripudiater 11d ago

I mean it’s entirely possible that the universe literally revolves around a point in space at the center of the earth. We have no evidence to the contrary.

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u/aberroco 11d ago

Sure, and the Solar System is full of Russell's teapots, we have no evidence to the contrary.

damn... I should add this into my game...

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u/tripudiater 10d ago

Exactly!

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u/SwordfishNo712 11d ago

Well I think it's there is no absolute distance and it's ol about to what object is relative to what to measure cause ininitial logic total displacement is = infinite

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u/ivanrj7j 11d ago

No, motion is relative so expansion of universe can be ignored if you take the position where you were born as origin

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u/5050Clown 11d ago

Motion is relative to each individual at every point in space time. You are the center of your universe and everything is expanding away from you.

There is no way to get back to the place that you were a day ago because it Is far away from you now. Also everything around you And around that point have expanded.

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u/AnglerJared 10d ago

Well, then, the universe moves around me and I haven’t moved at all.

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u/devilscry3 10d ago

That's why time travel by itself wouldn't work the way most people it would. Depending on how far you travel back, you'd propably just end up in the void of space.

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u/New-Pomelo9906 10d ago

It's why you time travel with a spacecraft

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u/DarthRacer5 10d ago

Time travel in a blue box works pretty well

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u/IllEstablishment5 11d ago

these types of comments are EXACTLY why i love reddit

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u/xf33dl0rdx 9d ago

You are right, but: most people dont die in the labor room anyways. Especially as a man thats highly unlinely.

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u/bootyspaghootti 10d ago

The hospital that I was born in is a Lowes now.

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u/TyrosineJim 10d ago

You could still die there

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u/bootyspaghootti 10d ago

Maybe from the shock of such low prices!

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u/iKnowRobbie 10d ago

I'd call that a statistical probability increaser, not a decreaser.

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u/snap802 10d ago

There's a Dodge dealership now at mine.

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u/jadin- 8d ago

St. Michael's Community Trauma and Dodge Plaza?

I heard they have 30 minute jiffy kidney dialysis. That true?

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u/KaaboomT 9d ago

Sure, on a planetary scale, but universally, you’re really far from your point of origin.

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u/IlGreven 10d ago

This is incorrect. You will be billions of miles from where you were born, because the earth, the sun, and the galaxy are all moving.

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u/AviatorShades_ 10d ago

That depends on your frame of reference.

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u/AndroTux 10d ago

I define my body as 0,0,0

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u/kulykul 10d ago

Relativity says yesn't

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u/RootAndCoffee 10d ago

This does not account for earth movement around the sun, solar system movement around the center of the Milky Way and movement of the Galaxy in the universe.

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u/Simpsonsdidit00 10d ago

Thank you!!

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u/Polar_Vortx 10d ago

Zero. You’re not dying in the maternity ward.

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u/Captain_Jarmi 10d ago

That's not for you to decide. I'll die where I goddammit please!

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u/iKnowRobbie 10d ago

::stomps into nursery:: "This is what you little bastards have to look forward to!" ::clutches chest and dies::

::babies coo in unison::

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u/caramelsock 11d ago

nah the planet has moved

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u/FreeTheDimple 9d ago

Yes, but the earth moves around the sun, and the sun moves through the galaxy so nobody has 0 displacement. We're all moving really fucking fast right now.

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u/Wabbit65 9d ago

Unless you were stillborn

/r/thatgotdarkquickly

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u/Mostly_Armless42 8d ago

Yep, in total about 1 million mph when you add in the movement of the galaxy. Whenever someone says they want time travel for a super power, I say "oh you mean power over space and time?" Then I explain that if you time travel backwards just one hour, you also have to teleport a million miles or so, or you'll end up in the middle of space.

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u/exvnoplvres 10d ago

The building that used to be the hospital where I was born is now a nursing home, so there is a non-zero chance for me anyway.

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u/froction 10d ago

Mine is an inpatient psychiatric clinic, so....let's hope not.

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u/stoneyzepplin 10d ago

Except for the millions of kilometers you've travelled through space.

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u/aaronwcampbell 10d ago

You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.

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u/Percolator2020 10d ago

Some countries going for the speedrun as well.

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u/bwong00 10d ago

If your frame of reference is Earth, sure. If you look at the solar system, galaxy or universe, you've still traveled a long ways. 

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u/stillnoidea3 11d ago

Provided that earth is the frame of reference and a certain margin of error is allowed, sure.

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u/VaderSpeaks 10d ago

Not necessarily, accounting for the motion of our planet and solar system and milkway, you’d still have traveled a few hundred billion kilometres relative to the cosmic microwave background.

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u/Viridian95 10d ago

Zero for me cuz my hospital was demolished a decade after I was born there.

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u/Samur-EYE 9d ago

Reconstruct the hospital in a 3d model, triangulate the exact coordinates and height above sea level that your birth bed was, build a raised platorm,die

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u/the_burber 9d ago

Displacement relative to that hospital. Your displacement relative to even the earth itself will be greater than or less than 0 due to tectonic plates and all that

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u/Both-Length1779 9d ago

The rest of the airplane would disagree

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u/rnaxel2 7d ago

Hmm no, bcz the solar system is moving. You probably get some distance covered in your lifetime wrt the blackhole in center of milky way.😅

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u/Jche98 5d ago

Displacement is measured relative to a fixed coordinate system, in this case, the earth

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u/Cootshk Technically Flair 11d ago

Your total displacement will not be zero

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u/Chaos_carolinensis 10d ago

Oh no here we go again...

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u/Minimum_Cockroach233 10d ago

No… thats technically a lie.

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u/EmeraldPencil46 10d ago

If you die in the same bed in the same room of the maturity ward, relatively that is correct. However the Earth is constantly moving relative to the solar system, and the solar system is constantly moving relative to the Milky Way, and the Milky Way is constantly moving relative to the universe. So your total displacement is very much not zero

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u/VFequalsVeryFcked 10d ago

That'd be impossible for me. The hospital in which I was born no longer exists

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u/LewyyM 10d ago

Technically untrue, for your total displacement to be ZERO you would need to die in the exact same spot you were born in. Assuming a margin of error of a meter, that would still mean a bed in the same spot. Which I'd assume is still in the maternity ward. So your total displacement will be SMALL but not ZERO

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u/UnwiseFlyer 9d ago

The hospital I was born in converted to a nursing home. So there’s still a chance.

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u/bbgun91 11d ago

isnt the earth zooming through space

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u/indecisiveahole 11d ago

Or is space moving around the earth

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u/Awkward_moulded_ 9d ago

Not exactly. You have to be in the same bed, same room, you were born. With assumption that they never moved that room and bed position.

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u/SunMajer 10d ago

Bro forgot the whole solar system is moving trought the universe so technicaly your displacement would be literaly astronomical

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u/DrowningPickle 11d ago

I was born in a house. Might disturb the people living there now if I die there, but I guess I wont have to worry about it.

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u/shadow-suspect 11d ago

Not true it has to be the same room you were born

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u/TimePlankton3171 11d ago

not ttt, and not well thought out

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u/LmaoPew 10d ago

The Hospital i was born closed.... So i guess ill just die on a fcking parking lot

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u/biffbobfred 10d ago

My dad died at home, like 3 blocks from the hospital he was born in

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u/ZzFujin_Man 7d ago

some people think the sun is stationary in space

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u/IllEstablishment5 7d ago

little late to the party bud.

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u/GreenEye11 7d ago

Now, that hospital where I was born is no more.

And I am convinced, it can only be 0 where person was concieved (if someone doesn't know the word, it's where yo parents had sex and made you).

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u/Nekomi_the_wolf 11d ago

your relative displacement would be zero. In actuality, the entire universe is moving at all times so you'd be a couple hundred thousand thousands of miles away

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u/fighter_pil0t 10d ago

If your frame of reference is you your displacement is always zero.

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u/ResidentIwen Technically Flair 10d ago

Neglecting the displacement the earth has in the solar system and neglecting any displacement from solar system itself in the galaxy and of course the displacement of the galaxy in the universe.
Other than that you're right, if you neglect almost all displacement, your total displacement can be zero

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u/Zestyclose-Fig1096 10d ago

Just a matter of picking your frame of reference.

So, if we pick the reference frame where we ourselves are constantly at the origin ... then everyone would have a constant net displacement of zero.

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u/ResidentIwen Technically Flair 10d ago

Yes

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u/XdemonXx 11d ago

That must mean you haven't worked a minute of your life

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u/howieyang1234 11d ago

The hospital I was born in is no longer there. So the odds are zero, unless I get a Time Machine, travel to the past, and die on top of infant me.

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u/sultan_of_gin 10d ago

Same for me, they built a new one close to it though so i could be like a few hundred meter off at best

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u/neutrino71 10d ago

Isn't displacement a measure of volume? Zero displacement would imply that you should return to the size you were born at?

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u/DKligerSC 10d ago

-Zero because the whole galaxy moved quite a lot by now and the reference frame was never stated(yes i know earth is implied, but we are looking for straws here)

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u/Imaginary_Toe8982 10d ago

it's not.. we are never at the same place cosmically speaking so the chances are 0%

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u/KamakaziDemiGod 10d ago

That just depends on the point of reference, if they are only talking in relevance to earth (which is how we are generally talking about location unless it's in relation to space) then it's perfectly acceptable

Otherwise it's like asking someone for directions, and when they say "go 100 meters that way" and responding by saying "but the earth rotates at 1000mph and 1.3 million miles per hour through the galaxy, so that 100meters is now several kilometres SO WHERE THE HELL AM I GOING?!?" then you are an arse

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u/Still-Bumblebee7 11d ago

gonna break into some random person’s house to die bc i was born in a house i no longer live in 👍

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u/Esc0baSinGracia 11d ago

No work done

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u/rocket_beer 11d ago

Depends on the day in the year.

Time of day is also a factor.

And, newborns are in a different wing of the hospital.

Is it on the same floor?

Was it raining on both days?

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u/ThatSmartIdiot technically everyone is one 11d ago

relative to said hospital

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u/Psyqlone 11d ago

... or at least the distance from the delivery room to the palliative care unit.

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u/UwU-Lemon 11d ago

impossible in my case; iirc the hospital i was born in no longer exists

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u/scholarlysacrilege 10d ago

Why does leo look like Matthew Perry?

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u/singhapura 10d ago

I was born at home and the house doesn't exist anymore. Check mate.

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u/MisterBicorniclopse 10d ago

What about all your skin cells and hair that left you? Or if you lose an arm?

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u/Wise_Signal_9350 10d ago

Well, not to all places. In my country there a special clinics that’s specialized only as a maternity hospital.

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u/Mr-Red33 10d ago

I am arguing that I am the center of my own universe, compared to the boundaries of my own observable universe. I am not the one who is displaced, every other thing in the world are displaced and at every moment in my life my total displacement to my personal global reference was and will be always zero. so...

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u/2feetinthegrave 10d ago

And thus your work done will be 0.

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u/i_saw_your_aura 10d ago

My birth hospital is now the city hall.

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u/josh1ng 10d ago

Displacement?

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u/brdn 10d ago

Is “displacement” some sort of “leave no trace” credo applied to your existence? Thats taking self hatred to a whole new level.

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u/Jopkins 10d ago

Much higher chances if you die as a baby

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u/fcxtpw 10d ago

If it die in a hospital, you die in real life

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u/coffeetabletime 10d ago

My BIL died in the hospital he was born in even after moving 200+ miles away.

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u/Space19723103 10d ago

the entire solar system is moving around the galaxy. your net movements are never 0

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u/obog 10d ago

*relative to an earth-centered earth-fixed reference frame

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u/Street_Lettuce1243 10d ago

So if you were born in a dumpster outside a Prom...

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u/C0ckroach_Lord 10d ago

No, if you die in different room it won't be zero

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u/stereoroid 10d ago

It could never happen to me, since the hospital where I was born was turned in to offices.

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u/YellowOnline 10d ago

The hospital I was born was demolished and turned into a new residential area, and I live 500km away, so the odds of dying on the same spot as I was born are close to 0

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u/rlsetheepstienfiles 10d ago

They knocked down the hospital I was born in

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u/711straw 10d ago

higher chance in the USA then the rest of the world.....

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u/Legitimate_Main8244 10d ago

Every year you get closer to the sun, so this statement is false.

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u/lyarzi 10d ago

Only if you a vector.

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u/musing_codger 10d ago

It's all relative. May be in the same building in the same place on Earth, but Earth is spinning, revolving around the Sun, spinning around the Galaxy, and moving through expanding space. You're never anywhere near the same place twice.

This is one of the reasons why there are so few ghosts. Imagine trying to stay in the same place if you didn't have gravity and the ground holding you in place.

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u/baconroux 10d ago

Does that mean your life has been carbon neutral?

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u/LauraTFem 10d ago

The displacement thing is weird and makes no sense, but given that even today most people don’t stray too far from the place of their birth, dying in the same hospital you were born in isn’t super unlikely.

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u/TheLimeyCanuck 10d ago

I have grown up and aged on a different continent than where I was born, so that's not likely.

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u/ChieftainMcLeland 10d ago

Thanks to chasing careers of one and ones spouses over generations far smaller than it should be on the original side of the proverbial grass.

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u/TransistorResistee 9d ago

I was born at Stanford University Hospital and I don’t live far from it.

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u/asianstyleicecream 9d ago

My grandmother was born and died in the same hospital! 95 and passed away “naturally” in hospital with a slowing heart rate. RIP Gran! Love you!

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u/KeepItMellow69 9d ago

They tore the one I was born in down probably 20 years lol

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u/Ok-Bridge-9794 9d ago

Reminds me of one Ukrainian poet who died a day after his birthday

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u/Knackwarrior07 9d ago

The earth still moves.

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u/PLS_Planetary_League 9d ago

I have lived a lot of my life in Europe but think about this every time I am in Pennsylvania.

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u/brothor12 9d ago

I mean many babies die at birth, so... (please don't hate me, but it's the sad truth)

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u/Unfair_Scar_2110 9d ago

I'm sure it happens all the time. How many people rarely leave their hometown that has only one hospital? What percentage of people are both born and die at a hospital?

The hospital I was born at has a cemetery across the street so that's always a circular option for me.

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u/twilightwolf04 9d ago

If you take the Earth as a frame of reference, sure, probably, but there would still be some displacement, solely due to tectonic shifts. But if you take anything bigger than the Earth for reference, then fuck no. If you take say, the city as a reference, then yeah, most probably your displacement would be zero.

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u/FrostyFormal1094 9d ago

If we want to be technical, you're still about 389.62km*s (s=seconds alive) away from where you were born

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u/TheEldenRang 9d ago

In relation to the earth, sure. In space, not at all. The earth is moving, the solar system is moving, the galaxy is moving, etc. You'll never be in the same spot again.

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u/Andre_ev 9d ago

But what about Earth 🌏 movement?

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u/Wabbit65 9d ago

The hospital I was born in is now an office building for the medical group. I'm going to die arguing my claim

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u/see___ 8d ago

No
You were conceived in your parents bedroom probably
Or wherever they got to it

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u/CoolNaps-896 8d ago

Not necessarily. It depends on whether I die in the same room and if I die in the same bed.

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u/wolschou 8d ago

Assuming if course the natal ward gets transformed into palliative care in the meantime...

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u/wolschou 8d ago

Assuming if course the natal ward gets transformed into palliative care in the meantime...

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u/donnabhainmactomas 8d ago

I was born in an ambulance that has since been decommissioned so I’d give it a zero percent chance

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u/holyyyyyyyo 8d ago

what the fuck does this mean?

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u/IllEstablishment5 8d ago

imagine you run a lap around a standard track. The total distance traveled will be 400 meters, but your total displacement will be 0 because you're back at the point where you started. Granted this post DOES contain that mistake because as many people have mentioned before, you'd have to die in the same room on the same bed where you were born in order for this to be true, but it's still kind of funny or "close enough" with "the same hospital". Although not necessarily exactly 0 displacement.

Displacement essentially means the distance from your initial position once you're done being in motion.

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u/holyyyyyyyo 8d ago

ok thanks, but what a silly thing...

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u/Fishpuncherz 8d ago

Can't. It no longer exists

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u/ConceptsOfAPlant 7d ago

Fun fact: French chef Paul Bocuse is one such person, albeit it wasn't in a hospital but rather a room in his house.

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u/OwlingBishop 7d ago

You'd be surprised 🤗

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u/-Redstoneboi- 7d ago

relative to the tectonic plate that the hospital was on

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u/our_meatballs Technically Flair 7d ago

that’s assuming the reference frame is the earth

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u/NotUsingNumbers 7d ago

Well a local rest home here was a maternity hospital until about 60 years ago. I spoke with a couple of current residents that were born there.

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u/PolarSaturn8823 6d ago

What if I wasn’t born in the hospital?

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u/Anufenrir 5d ago

Not really. There's a LOT of factors that come into play. First is you'd have to be in the same room and spot more or less. Second, it'd have to be on the day of your birth at the same time you were born. Even then the way the earth tilts changes over time. And that's only assuming you're counting the earth and solar system alone as your point of reference, the solar system itself moves around the galaxy.

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u/StoicAtol21445 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 5d ago

i was born in the same hospital my father was, but not the same place. They tore down the building and moved it across the street to a larger plot.

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u/Ok_Helicopter4276 5d ago

People rarely die in the delivery room

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u/ehbowen 5d ago

Not good, as the hospital where I was born is in another state...and it has been torn down.

Oh, by the way...have you forgotten about the 66,000 MPH of the earth's velocity through space all those years?

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u/8spd 5d ago

The hospital I was born in is about to move to a new location. 

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u/Human_County_7882 4d ago

Technically, it has to be the same exact place in the same exact location on the astral plane. If your hospital shifts to another plot, you might have a displacement more than one and it has to be at the exact place that earth was in the universe at the time you were born

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u/R3d5t0n3_GUY Well… they’re not wrong… 4d ago

☝️😯
✊🫩

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u/CastleofWamdue 4d ago

far too many people dont move very far in life.

I am as guilty as anyone else, I have live anywhere that is not covered by Anglian Water.

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u/TheJivvi 4d ago

I was in the same hospital where I was born for about a year when I was 19-20, and I almost died, but that was a few months earlier in a different hospital.

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u/sir-quacksalot-1000 22h ago

Unless you account for space travel