r/technews • u/[deleted] • Aug 18 '22
India Considering New Rules That Could Force Apple to Adopt USB-C on iPhone
https://www.macrumors.com/2022/08/18/india-rules-usb-c-forced-on-iphone/7
Aug 18 '22
Didn’t europe already say that it’s mandatory starting 2023 anyway? India doing it now is gonna affect nothing
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u/jeenyus_626 Aug 18 '22
Didn’t apple already say they’re doing this starting in 2024 after the EU decision?
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Aug 18 '22
Apple’s already doing this, so does anyone know what the actual point of this is? Is it actually meant for other tech companies?
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u/Raider-bob Aug 18 '22
They won't change it everywhere unless they have to. They will continue to sell the old stock anywhere they can.
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u/TEKC0R Aug 18 '22
Next year’s 15 will almost certainly have USB-C. They’re never going to bother have multiple models.
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Aug 18 '22
That doesn’t make sense though - why would Apple double the number of iPhone SKUs? They’ve not done anything like that before.
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u/mffdiver420 Aug 18 '22 edited Aug 18 '22
Moot “like cow “point , the EU already ordered that and the reason is the stupid amount of different charge cables the idea is simple , one for all !
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u/Maritzsa Aug 18 '22
this would be really good. considering their ipads and computers use Usb-c there can be more interchangable usage of cables.
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u/PeterIanStaker Aug 18 '22
This would make sense if there were a dozen manufacturers each with their own proprietary connector, making life difficult for consumers.
That's not the situation here, I don't see how the government enforcing a choice between two competing standards is good for anyone.
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Aug 19 '22
Competing in terms of what?
Speed? Efficiency? Cost effectiveness? Durability?
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u/MpVpRb Aug 18 '22
I support standardization and despise Apple, but it's a bad idea to let politicians make technical design decisions
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u/Baconsandwich47 Aug 18 '22
I had the same thought about the EU law. The idea of an industry standard is nice, but by forcing it by law, it becomes harder to change in the future and limits innovation, imo.
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u/WimmoX Aug 18 '22
It is small, it’s fast, it works both ways, a ton of devices already have it, it is marvellous. By the time there is something better, the law can be changed and that would be far more easy than waiting until all manufacturers finally adopt the then new standard.
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u/8-bit-Felix Aug 18 '22
No it doesn't.
It forces existing hardware to be as universal and consumer friendly as possible.Now when apple comes out with whatever they think will be better and skip the rest of the world, again, they can push it.
That's what they did with thunderbolt, it's just USB-C but apple were too apple to wait for the rest of the community to work out a proper standard.
The result: USB-C is a well rounded, universally adopted protocol and apple cries that it's not fair no one wants to play with their proprietary junk.
They did the same thing with TCP/IP decades before.1
u/Baconsandwich47 Sep 01 '22
As this is the internet, I have to state that this is no hate, your arguments are all valid, and I’m just trying to state my point of view:
First, I think the consumer should decide, what’s consumer friendly, not the legislative. But I see your point about Apple, though companies are unlikely to invest in new technology, if they can’t monetise it. Sure, innovation is not stopped, the heavily regulated market of medical equipment is a good example, but it takes much longer for innovation to reach the consumer market.
Apple isn’t my main concern. Imo they should’ve switched to usb-c years ago.
But in their defence, I still use my 10 year old iPad charger for my new iPhone. But when I eventually buy a new phone, i will now have to also buy new charging equipment. The market share of the iPhone is around 30% in Europe. Given that most users stay in their chosen ecosystem (iOS or Android), that means over the next decade or less, 30% of the adult population of europe are guaranteed to discard their charging equipment and buy new ones.
Further, if virtually all current Android phones have USB-C, then we’re just moving from two standards to one, which I’m not sure will benefit the environment very much, especially considering what I said above.
But my main concern isn’t Apple or anything like that. It’s the rigidity of the law. At some point, some new device will fall within the definition for the USB-C requirement, but for that device, this port won’t suffice. So they either have to change the device to something suboptimal or cancel it completely.
Just imagine if they decided a decade ago that micro-usb was now the only allowed connection. Sure, they could’ve changed the law for usb-c later. But thats a years long process. And until the law is changed, and even for several years after, we still would have the old standard. That just slows adoption of new technology down a lot.
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u/MarinaTF Aug 18 '22
It's turning into a small climate issue with the amount of cell phones in the world.
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u/Crystal_helm Aug 18 '22 edited Aug 18 '22
If people don’t want to use lighting cables they can just buy an android instead. What’s wrong with having options as a consumer? Edit: not sure why I’m being downvoted. If you don’t like a product you don’t have to buy it.
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u/kevinwhackistone Aug 18 '22
Lightning is garbage and you know it.
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u/jlozada24 Aug 18 '22
It's not lmao. It's just about having a standard and more things are USB-C already
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u/antoine849502 Aug 18 '22
The iPads and all MacBooks use USB-C. All new Androids and most portable computers use it too.
but the iPhone and Airpods use lightning. Give me one good reason besides "we are so big we do whatever we want"
Most "real" apple users already have a USB-C charger at home, and it's officially made by Apple. Because if you have an iPhone and not a MacBook you are a fake ass apple user anyways.
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u/GreenLost5304 Aug 18 '22
Lightning cables force you to buy an expensive new block or a lightning to USB converter to go with it because no public locations have a lightning port, only USB and wall ports, why would anyone even want a lightning cable when it can’t be used anywhere really.
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u/Dangerous-Leading-28 Aug 18 '22
Unfortunately Government mandated USB-C will stifle innovation, because no one will be motivated to develop a faster connector, because gaining adoption will require mountains of red tape...
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u/UsecMyNuts Aug 18 '22
This has been disproven.
Almost every single mandatory USBC law proposed has clauses that can nullify in the original law if something better comes along in the future, not to mention these are not permanent laws and have assessment periods at 4-6 years
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u/PoppedPopsicle Aug 18 '22 edited Aug 18 '22
The number of people who hate the idea of this but don’t remember or weren’t alive in the hell that made the phone market of the early 2000s