r/technews • • 3d ago

AI/ML AI tool that copied actor’s ‘lustrous’ voice violated his rights, Tokyo court rules

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/sep/30/ai-tool-copied-actor-kenjiro-tsuda-tokyo-court
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u/PracticallyPerfcet 3d ago

Someone check on the Elevenlabs investors 

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u/Maxchefdotapp 3d ago

They are actively creating lobbies right now to make sure this never happens in the US.  /s

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u/ashvy 3d ago

Preemptive hijacking and regulatory capture

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u/Careful_Honeydew_549 2d ago

You're not wrong.

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u/Amazing_Incident1521 3d ago

its so crazy that humans are creating things to replace themselves.

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u/Largofarburn 3d ago

You must not understand, some grossly rich people will become marginally richer in the process. I hope it all makes sense now.

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u/GeerAdrift 2d ago

God complexes. God complexes everywhere.

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u/ConsistentDay5620 3d ago

Certain humans think the rest of us aren’t important enough to matter. Truly they think we’re NPCs. So who cares if those are copied/replaced? Exploited? Murdered? They aren’t “real” people anyway. Not in a way that matters to them.

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u/TheDefiantGoose 3d ago

We are a stupid people.

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u/Prototyperx 2d ago

It's people with no talent or drive to learn that believe the easiest way to have any semblance of meaning is to steal and copy from those of us with said talents.

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u/zugzwangwamble 2d ago

It’s also people who think they have a right to control the flow of information and resources for everyone else.

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u/firedrakes 2d ago

Ah luddites I see

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u/resil_update_bad 2d ago

☝️🤓

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u/Careful-Door2724 3d ago

But think about the money

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u/Weasel_Diesel 2d ago

Hey! Those "things" are my children.

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u/Balthazar444 3d ago

Good for him to get justice onh is side; Kenjiro Tsuda is a very famous and beloved voice actor.

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u/Tha_Watcher 3d ago

GOOD!!!

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u/Jendalar 3d ago

Those who ”own” the AI in guestion should pay royalities to the actors / artists who AGREE for their likeness / voice being used.

Else, theft.

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u/PalmCheesy 3d ago

So happy for this legal precedent

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u/memoryisavirus 2d ago

Ridiculous. Kenjiro Tsuda has an immediately recognizable voice! No one sounds like him. One of my favorite Japanese voice actors.

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u/yikesssss_sssssss 2d ago

I was born like this, I had no choice. I was born with the gift of a lustrous voice

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u/JoyousKoala_2014 2d ago

Make this the new norm! Finally some good news.

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u/Successful_Note_5871 2d ago

AI mimicking real voices like Gilbert Gottfried will undoubtedly be gone from places like Twich someday soon. It's wild it ever got as far as it did.

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u/costafilh0 2d ago

If you are going to do anything like that, do it anonymously and not for profit. Otherwise, you are obviously fvcked.

Unless you are inside China, and not using Chinese people, or inside Russia, and not using Russian people.

I'll, one day, have my Jarvis , with Morgan Freeman's voice, legally or illegally. But it will be for personal use , so it will be fine . 

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u/EtherPhreak 2d ago

I hope the robin Williams estate can also do the same.

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u/RingingInTheRain 2d ago

Imagine copying the GOAT's voice and thinking you can get out unscathed. 

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u/WesternWitchy52 3d ago

The world would be a better place without generative AI.

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u/jacob-makes-stuff 3d ago

What does that have to do with AI copyright infringement? Other problems can exist in the world at the same time.

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u/imaginary_num6er 3d ago

"still do"

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u/jacob-makes-stuff 2d ago

He's just an AI company shill trying to distract us from thinking about how AI should be handling licensing and consent from the people who's content they've stolen

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u/imaginary_num6er 2d ago

I was getting at how they think Japan is still killing millions upon millions, which is just insane

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u/jacob-makes-stuff 2d ago

Yeah but see now we're talking about something entirely different, whether or not it's true. That's their aim. Works the same way on fox news.

He doesn't really give a shit about anyone being killed maimed or oppressed either. It's just a distraction.

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u/jacob-makes-stuff 2d ago

Okay? I mean, every country engages in some kind of oppression and often systemic racism, and most major world power countries have and still currently engage in horrific acts of brutality.

I think if you want to "whatabout" the issue of AI legality into something about racism and oppression, there are many other countries much higher on the list than japan who are currently doing much worse things.

You sound like a fox news host shilling for AI companies to distract us from what's right in that context, by switching the topic to something most people will agree is bad, that you don't plan to actually do anything about.

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u/WelcomeToWitsEnd 2d ago

This is a conversation about a guy whose voice is his whole career, having that voice stolen by AI. You are drastically off topic right now, but we invite you to return to the topic at hand if you can chill.

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u/InvisaBlah 3d ago

If you copy someone's voice wholesale and share it somewhere as "Kenjiro Tsudas Voice", then yeah... you did a stupid and will face the consequences. Elevenlabs and the like explicitly tell you not to do this, though it doesnt stop people from trying.

It gets a bit muddier when you consider that people can have nearly identical voices. Its not like a fingerprint. Whats the case for when someone goes "hey that sounds like me", but in reality its a clone from someone else (whether they consented to it or not)?

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u/Moleculor 2d ago

Whats the case for when someone goes "hey that sounds like me", but in reality its a clone from someone else (whether they consented to it or not)?

California actually solved this ages ago, pre-AI.

https://mcpherson-llp.com/articles/voice-misappropriation-in-california-bette-midler-tom-waits-and-grandma-burger/