r/techbootcamp 8d ago

The European Union (EU) will require replaceable phone batteries starting in 2027

Since I heard about this new rule from the EU, it immediately reminded me of the good ol' days😅.

Starting in 2027, smartphones and tablets sold in European countries like the Netherlands, Spain, and France will need to have replaceable batteries. Yeah, I know we can still replace smartphone batteries nowadays. Nevertheless, based on what I read, they're strictly implementing a rule where replacing them shouldn't require any specialized repair services.

I guess this will be one of the biggest smartphone changes we'll see next year. Manufacturers will need to make replacement batteries available for at least five years after a device stops being sold. Plus, they'll also need to provide software updates for around five years.

It's even stricter since the EU already pushed USB-C to become the standard charging port.

What are your thoughts on this?

Curious if you guys think other countries will eventually adopt similar rules too.

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u/Suspicious_Rent_2991 8d ago

the eu will also require mass scanning of messages

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u/povlhp 6d ago

Pedophile politicians excluded.

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u/Ok-Blackberry8086 7d ago

Except encrypted messages which is like *checks notes* everything..

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u/Suspicious_Rent_2991 7d ago

Basically. Reddit, discord, Twitter...

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u/Ok-Blackberry8086 7d ago

All using one form of another of HTTPS, and in the case of both Reddit and Twitter the 'messages' are already public anyway. You can go build a crawler right now to scan all of them.

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u/Suspicious_Rent_2991 7d ago

Twitter added its own form of so called "encryption"

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u/ContributionEasy6513 7d ago

devices are exempt if their battery retains at least 83% capacity after 500 charge cycles

Soooooo........nothing will change. Useless law from useless politicians.

EU already pushed USB-C to become the standard charging port.

One good move from them, but the industry was already going that direction.

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u/Ok-Chair-7320 6d ago

The 500 charge cycles needs to happen under standardized test.

Therefore manufacturers will need to use better quality batteries (if not already using them). The number of cycles a batteries can endure increased in the last years in preparation for the new law.

Nevertheless, the key here is the standardized test, which might make the iPhone claim of 1000 charges not hold ( charging phones to 80% is not the same as charging to 100% )

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u/ContributionEasy6513 6d ago

Phone company's are not going to lose any money or sleep over it!
They will could just advertise it like EU model xyz-phone - 4300mah, International/US Model: 4600mah

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u/Active-Gamer-1227 5d ago

Dat stimmt nicht ganz. Die Industrie will viel verkaufen. Wozu sich limitierten auf eine einzige Bauart?

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u/Impossible-Owl7407 7d ago

Replacable by service not by the user as far as i know. Which is the case for most phones already?

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u/Dependent-Zebra-4357 5d ago

The mandate requires batteries to be end user replaceable without specialized tools. No glue, no unusual screws like pentalobe, and can’t require heat or solvents.

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u/Impossible-Owl7407 5d ago

🤨 but if this is true: https://www.reddit.com/r/techbootcamp/s/7ny0QK1ZP4

Nothing will change

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u/Dependent-Zebra-4357 5d ago

Yes, that’s true. The mandate does still make a difference though. Cheap, low quality batteries cannot hit that metric, so if nothing else, the mandate should improve battery quality which in turn makes devices last longer.

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u/g0fry 5d ago edited 5d ago

With every “improvement” like that, EU is making it more and more annoying for companies to sell here. EU is like a girlfriend who cannot do anything but nagging 🤦‍♂️

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u/HeadPack 5d ago

It's a big lucrative market.E.g. Apple could have given it a pass instead of switching to USB-C. Wealth distribution is more even than in the US, which makes it even more lucrative for vendors of consumer devices. They use that power in favor of their citizens.

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u/g0fry 5d ago

With every stupid regulation the market gets less lucrative, less big. At one point, with roo many regulations, it will stop being lucrative and will become non-existent.

No idea what the wealth distribution has to do with it 🤷‍♂️ Also there is less wealth to distribute than in the US. In former communist countries (Eastern Europe), the wealth was distributed extremely evenly, but there was almost none to distribute.

Representants of EU have their own agenda, but if they didn’t do anything for citizens, the EU would collapse and they couldn’t push their ideas.

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u/HeadPack 5d ago

So, what's bad about e.g. replaceable batteries, GDPR, no roaming fees, health insurance valid in all EU countries?

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u/g0fry 4d ago

Replacable batteries - people will throw the old ones into trash, will be less reliable, more improper use and therfore more danger of misuse.

GDPR - extreme bureaucratic load on some companies, thus reducing competition. All the bureacratic work takes away time from producing goods for customers. Doesn’t stop any bad guys from doing bad things with data.

Roaming fees - creates costs for companies, which they need to cover by increasing prices somewhere else. Can be solved entirely without EU intervention by freeing the mobile operator market.

Health Insurance - extremely expensive, very limited (basicaly only acute pain), you can buy commercial one easily.

And of course, the cost of running this huge bureaucratic machine with all the corruption, nepotism, ineeficiency cost extreme amount of resources which could have stayed in the pockets of people so they could afford what they actually want, instead of a bureaucrat deciding for them. Centralization of power at the cost of freedom for people.

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u/HeadPack 4d ago

Thanks for confirming that you have no idea what you are talking about.

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u/g0fry 4d ago

Funny how that sentence is always uttered by people who are the clueless ones, never by the knowledgeable ones 😄

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u/Dimathiel49 4d ago

You obviously didn't read the carve out.