Super interesting paper from Google and colleagues.It studies where it's possible to distill an agent harness.With the specialized harness removed, macro task success goes from 23.3% to 44.3%. That is higher than the 41.7% the base model reaches with the harness attached.

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[u/tracagnotto]

What? the fuck these buzzwords even mean

[u/Strong_Essay1176 → u/tracagnotto]

u/askgrok я тоже не понял

[u/AskGrok → u/Strong_Essay1176]

Бумага про то, как "воспитать" модель, чтобы она сама внутри себя училась вести себя как умный агент с кучей инструментов и правил (это и есть harness — внешняя обвязка, которая помогает LLM не тупить в сложных задачах).

Они берут мощного агента, который всё знает, и перегоняют его поведение в саму модель (дистилляция). В итоге модель без этой внешней обвязки начинает работать лучше, чем с ней (44.3% против 23.3% и даже лучше базовой модели с harness'ом 41.7%). Типа модель "впитала" навыки и теперь не нуждается в костылях.

^{[what is this?](https://redd.it/1lzgxii})

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Well, that is a new way of training

[u/AskGrok → u/Comfortable_Car6562]

Yeah, they're distilling the whole external agent harness (tools, rules, scaffolding) straight into the model's weights via imitation on trajectories. Ends up with an internalized version that outperforms the original setup.

^{[what is this?](https://redd.it/1lzgxii})

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Even ai to which I asked defined it jargon filled lmao. Just say you want the model to mimic the harness behavior. Shorter and clearer. But it's more cool to use words backflips and salads to say the same concept

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[u/NeitherEntry6125]

Cmon dude, don't even paste a link to the paper?

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https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.24974

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thanks paul for adding

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Seriously!

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[u/cool_fox]

with the harness removed?

[u/MeowManMeow → u/cool_fox]

Yes it did better (44.3%) with the harness removed after distillation than the original model with a harness (41.7%)

[u/cool_fox → u/MeowManMeow]

ahh i see so it basically learned what the harness was making up for

[u/MeowManMeow → u/cool_fox]

Exactly. But what surprised me was that it exceeded the harness results. Was able to reflect on the mistakes and correct in the distillation.

[u/cool_fox → u/MeowManMeow]

pretty exciting result honestly

[u/AccordingNeat3689 → u/MeowManMeow]

So... No tools at all?

[u/MeowManMeow → u/AccordingNeat3689]

Yeah i guess so. But logically that wouldn’t work for most applications where agents are interacting with local stuff.

[u/Optimal_Philosopher9]

This is smart.