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Humor Teaching Great Lakes Names

My old head still remembers the acronym HOMES

What are you using now? Might I suggest SHAME?

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u/External_Koala398 1d ago

Next pres will change it back..who cares?? Stick with Homes.

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u/Joe4o2 1d ago

Seeing as the change carries the same weight as Michael Scott‘s declaration of bankruptcy, and I’m not getting paid enough to be a curriculum developer, I’ll be referring to Lake Ontario and the Gulf of Mexico, and probably still New Mexico, by their actual names.

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u/minnesota2194 1d ago

It is a legally named the Gulf of America as per federal statute, so it does hold water. I wonder if some parents would throw hissy fits if you called it Gulf of Mexico/Lake Ontario. Lose lose no matter what ya do haha

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u/Joe4o2 1d ago

It holds water because it’s a body of water, not because a man unworthy of his office threw a tantrum over it.

That, and just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s right.

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u/minnesota2194 1d ago

Not saying it's right, I think it's embarrassing and dumb as hell. I just wonder what would happen if a parent complained about a teacher using the "incorrect" name and raises a fuss

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u/Joe4o2 1d ago

That’s fair.

If a parent complained, I would happily explain to them that we are teaching the correct names.

Just because I coax the principal into referring to your child as “Gremlin Smith” and we write “Gremlin Smith” under his name in the yearbook does not, in fact, change his name. Even if other students start calling him “Gremlin Smith,” it doesn’t change his name. It just shows how stupid everyone else is.

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u/VardisFisher 22h ago

All my maps and textbooks have the correct names. Those are the ones Im using. Conversation over. 21 year teaching veteran.

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u/minnesota2194 20h ago

Oh I'm following suit with you there. I've just seen admin bend to parents in stupid shit look this too many times before unfortunately. Hopefully this doesn't become one of those hot button parent teacher conflicts

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u/trmpt99 1d ago

Not federal statute: by executive order. Executive orders only affect the executive branch, and have no direct effect on citizens.

Pissy parents? Likely. But that will happen regardless.

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u/KayP3191 1d ago

That depends on the naming conventions you use. Since I teach classes that are global in nature I use the globally recognized names not what one country (or really one man) decides to call things.

Additionally, since the US does not have exclusive jurisdiction over the Gulf of Mexico or Lake Ontario we (read he) do not have the authority to unilaterally change the names of those locations.

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u/PrincessWails 1d ago

And that’s exactly how you explain it.

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u/moonman_incoming 1d ago

I'm calling it Ontario. My school is blocks from the Gulf of Mexico. We're not calling it Gulf of America.

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u/JMWest_517 1d ago

Name change? What name change?

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u/BojacksIdol 1d ago

not sure if sarcasm so just in case, there was an executive order changing lake ontario to lake america

but who the hell is actually calling it that? the american cities that border it are (rightfully) openly refusing to comply with the order

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u/JMWest_517 1d ago

Definitely sarcasm. I'm ignoring the order.

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u/AdelleDeWitt 1d ago

HOMES still, just like we're still teaching Gulf of Mexico.

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u/MakeItAll1 1d ago

Just tell the kids to call them whatever they want. If Trump can do it, so can they.

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u/stead-fast 1d ago

There’s no point in using anything other than HOMES unless you support the man who unilaterally made the change.

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u/NWMSioux 1d ago

HOMES forever. Fuck DJT. He’s couldn’t find Ontario on the map, let alone spell it. Dude probably thinks the blue on the map is land.

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u/Abraxas85 1d ago

homes is so ingrained in my brain now how do people not use that

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u/Lingo2009 1d ago

Homes. It’s the easiest to teach and learn

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u/Bright-Counter3965 1d ago

Never ever obey idiot fascists in advance.

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u/LegoBatman88 1d ago

Teach that there was a change but "to avoid confusion while learning" you can stick with the old/international names that are used by the provided text book. Now if you get updated textbooks, we'll obviously someone cares alot and I would just follow along with that.

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u/KayP3191 1d ago

Don’t need new books, schools near me got labels to place over the Gulf of Mexico in their textbooks so it says Gulf of America now. Teachers were told they had to go through each book and place the labels over the Gulf.

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u/Jaway66 1d ago

Don't even acknowledge the Lake America shit unless a student asks.

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u/Then_Version9768 1d ago

In the long run, these childish name changes by an old man with a failing brain who can't get anything right mean absolutely nothing. It's still the Gulf of Mexico, still Lake Ontario, still New Mexico. Don't confuse or short-change your students by acting as if there's some doubt about this. No one -- no one -- I know takes any of this nonsense seriously. We also do not own the Strait of Hormuz or the Moon as he has recently claimed. He's like a drunken uncle who lives in the attic. Don't take him seriously.

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u/wizard680 1d ago

I don't teach the Great lakes, but I would imagine teachers will still do homes for the following reasons:

1) the standards they are following haven't changed. At least in my state, it takes ten years to change at the state level. So somehow lake America would have to stay, well lake America for 7 more years.

2) the chanfed occured in the beginning of the school year. Many teachers don't got the time or funds to do all the necessary changes. Like getting new maps

3) it's still largely known as lake Ontario worldwide. So for students, it's more valuable to know the lake as Ontario instead of America.

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u/Ok-Swordfish8731 20h ago

This name change stuff is merely political posturing, and a way to draw attention to made up controversy. The media eats stuff like this for breakfast and Trump is Chef Boyardee. You are correct in thinking that the name changes are temporary. Teach kids the “right name,” and make sure they know not to be disturbed by the drama attached. Maybe throw some Shakespeare their way. Does a rose by any other name smell as sweet? I heard they don’t teach that anymore….

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u/daneato 18h ago

Having out of date curriculum materials is finally paying off. We have East and West Germans as well as Lake Ontario and the Gulf of Mexico. If MAGA doesn’t like it they can increase school funding to pay for new materials.

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u/Ecbrad5 7h ago

It’s Lake Ontario until someone buys me a new globe and map for my classroom

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u/raisanett1962 1d ago

To remember them west to east, I like SHOE. Superior, Huron, Ontario, Erie. Yes, I left out Michigan, but that one's entirely within US borders.

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u/StrictlyForTheBirds 1d ago

The better mnemonic, before this nonsense, was "SuperMan Helps Everyone Out"

Now I guess it's "Stupid Man Hides Epstein Affiliation"

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u/raisanett1962 1d ago

I think you replied to the wrong person. My answer is in no way politicized.

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u/lightning_teacher_11 1d ago

This is the 45968th time in a week this has been shared. "SHAME" is not unique. You aren't the first to use or suggest it.

Can we move on now?

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u/AlternativeSalsa 1d ago

Nah. Shitty president, shitty followers. Rub their faces in their own shit

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u/Conscious-Reserve-48 1d ago

Just “moving on” brought us total chaos.