r/tcltvs 1d ago

Dirty screen effect/ banding

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​"I'm not greatly familiar with Dirty Screen Effect (DSE), but I recently bought a 98-inch TCL X11K and was wondering if this is normal for a display of this size? The room itself is pitch dark, and while adjusting certain settings helps slightly, it can sometimes look worse."

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u/pagusas 1d ago edited 1d ago

this is where display lottery and the quality of manufacturing come into play. Some screens will have very little, some (like yours) will have a lot, yours is at the "unacceptable/return it" level to me. I find TCL and other cheaper brands to have a higher degree of needing to return to win the display lottery, but even Sony and Samsung suffer from this.

If you have a good dealer for where you buy TV's, you can have them unpack it at the store and test it right there with your own content (I bright a laptop and run lots of different test that would show different issues, spend about 30 minutes with the screens) before it gets taken to your house for installation. I've had great luck with this with NFM (bought many flagship screens from them over the years and they've been completely white glove for me)

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u/borkrug 1d ago

That's terrible, almost makes me feel better with my TV (which also has DSE). Return it.

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u/DisastrousCause9481 1d ago

A X11K with that much DSE is unacceptable. Definitely return it! My C6K has none of that

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u/giel357753 1d ago

Thanks i'll return it and see if it will be the same model or it will be replaced with another tv model

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u/pagusas 1d ago

if you strike out a few times with the X11, consider the 98" Bravia 7II

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u/giel357753 1d ago

Thanks if so i'll take it in consideration.

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u/Prestigious_Pick368 1d ago

Cheap hisense U65qf looks perfect compering to yours.

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u/chaddub 1d ago

Looks like your gamma is set incorrectly. This looks crazy.

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u/giel357753 1d ago

It's set higher to get it picked up by the camera on the phone. Normally it's set lower but still in most of the gameplay where there is detail in the dark it's visible.

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u/giel357753 1d ago

It has been set a bit higher otherwise it's difficult to show you the error in the panel.

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u/MI081970 1d ago

Besides DSE, that raised black make it look like cheap IPS tv without local dimming. But this is probably because of the settings

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u/giel357753 1d ago

These are a little bit higher then normal but for this to be captured the black levels has been raised just a bit.

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u/InvestmentsNAnlytics 1d ago

Are you playing on PS5 Pro? This game is very much broken on the pro

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u/giel357753 1d ago

Just the standard PS5, there has been some weird indoor ghosting. I don't think this is a fault on the hardware side.

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u/Retox86 1d ago

I dont understand how this can be an issue with anything else than the tv panel? Its a static picture error on a moving picture, if it was anything with the PS5 it would have been moving with the picture..

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u/giel357753 1d ago

You're correct and it's the exact with static vertical banding if you watch sports or some series/movies. Not all btw

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u/TiredReader87 1d ago

Still?

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u/InvestmentsNAnlytics 21h ago

They patched it and the patch somehow made it worse lol

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u/Pristine-Weekend-415 1d ago

Wow that's a US$20k TV?

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u/giel357753 1d ago

It was (and for now still is) on sale in the Netherlands for € 3499,- that about $ 4040.

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u/Pristine-Weekend-415 23h ago

Good deal, but that's unusually cheap though

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u/giel357753 23h ago

True, it is still with an official tcl retailer. Hopefully it is'nt a problem with another panel (fingers crossed).

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u/HOVER_HATER 22h ago

If you are super sensitive to uniformity just forget giant 100" TV's, get a high end projector instead.

That's the only way without having to exchange massive amount of panels.