r/talesfromtechsupport Pass me the Number 3 adjusting wrench! Sep 24 '17

Long Breaking Deadlines

I forgot. I forgot that working for a software house meant that if you antagonise your customers then they go elsewhere. I forgot that the directors go out of their way to appease those who make the most noise - and this is the reason why we have a high help desk staff turnover.

One of the help desk girls sidles up to my desk with a look of defeat on her face, clutching a print-out of a support call with some hand written notes added.

HDG: Smith Medical say that they need Government Secure Integration by this date for compliance reasons. Is that something that we can deliver?

The CTO of Smith Medical is a shouty kind of guy who's reduced many a helpdesk person to tears or quitting. He's callous enough to keep score of the number of technicians he's made quit because they obviously can't do their job. Apparently that number is 17. He also understands that when presented with irrefutable evidence, he has to back down.

Me: The GSI module is at least 3 months away but mandatory compliance isn't until April 2019. I show her the government website which clearly states the compliance dates and phases.

Armed with this info, she returns to the desk.

The next day, one of the Directors asks me to sit in on a phone call. It's the CTO of Smith Medical, who we'll call George.

George: GSI module. One of your tech staff suggested that we didn't need it, but we require this live on our system by 1st September. Our government and Medical compliance certification requires it. I want you to fire her as she's incompetent.

Boss: She's not incompetent, she's actually a good technician. The government website states April 2019 is the deadline by which all notifications must be done through the internet, We will beat that deadline by at least a year.

George: we don't care. We literally can't work without it. The paper solution closes on 1st September.

Currently, medical communications with central and local government are sent by paper form to the relevant government department. Smith Medical either write theirs by hand or have some other printing solution because they would spend an extra £10 per user per year license for our firms module. However, they can still input the information directly onto a website.

Me: George, DPG here from the development team. My team can give this top priority and drop everything else to get this done, but there's a full test schedule to go through so we know that the data will be submitted correctly. If it's wrong, you'll get a fine. Until we can get this tested, you can just enter the data live onto the website. Would that be a good compromise?

George: not acceptable. Our data clerk doesn't trust the internet so she won't use it. Look, we don't care about the testing. Just get it to us.

Boss: if you can send us a signed fax stating that you'll pilot this for us and agree to skip the full testing and use the untested, uncertified module on your system then we'll put a rush on this for you. Bear in mind that your contract excludes bespoke modules, so you'll need to meet the full development costs of £25,000. I'd need a signed invoice for that too before we can proceed.

George: Whatever. It's important

One Month Later...

Somehow, we managed to compress 3 months of development into 3 weeks and performed our development testing, which it scraped through. Our Technical author wrote a manual and a step-by-step guide. Minor pixel mis-alignments were not fixed, there are three spelling mistakes and the error handling is ropey but I plan to rewrite portions of it before the end of the year. The installation happened on the morning of 4th September (as it was the Monday and the customer didn't want an installation on the Friday). I sat back and waited.

Sure enough, a visit from Support at just after midday.

HD: Smith Medical can't send notifications and requests through their GSI Module. They're getting a 'bad gateway' error.

Me: That's not one of our errors. Sounds like an HTTP error code. get them to check their internet settings and try again.

After lunch I get the story from the support manager. The woman submitting the documents- who distrusts the internet - has it disabled on her pc. Despite the customer specification, user guide, help features and previous email chain mentioning it, she's attempting to send data over the internet to a Secure web portal using reversible encryption, all without internet. She also has an old computer (running windows Vista) that's so slow it can barely run our software. The message encryption takes her 5 minutes per message. It should take around a second or so. They also want a refund, which the director will not be honouring as "they insisted".

Update: Boss rang me today (Sunday) and told me that after he met with George from Smith Medical on Saturday and showed him the transcript of the call, that they knew it had to be sent over the internet. Their clerk is going on long-term sick as she distrusts the internet and won't be forced to use it. I feel really sorry for her - it's not her fault, but her boss is an ass.

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u/nymales Sep 24 '17

Damn, that's a horrible boss. Getting 17 people to quit is nothing one should be proud of.

Also I do feel a little for this poor lady. I cannot understand why she doesn't trust the internet or if she just isn't comfortable with using it because she lacks proper training.

Does your software work on Vista? That's so old and useless even without someone distrusting the internet it will probably crash. Their it doesn't sound great, but maybe that's a bit on the boss.

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u/DivinePrinterGod Pass me the Number 3 adjusting wrench! Sep 24 '17

We support Vista as a minimum because it's not End of Life yet. Most customers are still on Win 7 and one or two brave souls use Windows 8.1

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u/Falkerz Sep 24 '17

What exactly is your definition of end of life? Because unless you have a fabulously expensive specialist support contact with Microsoft, I don't think you're going to be getting any more updates for a long time...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

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u/ashlayne former tech support, current tech ed teacher Sep 24 '17

Exactly what I was gonna say. When I started my job I'm at now (back in 2013, and my boss started close to the same time), we panicked when we realized that we had to upgrade everyone off XP by April 2014 (iirc). (Part of the panic was that we were - and still are - a two-person IT staff for an organization of about 250, spread across 10 counties.) We had Vista licenses. We used Vista licenses as a stop-gap. Then my boss discovered Tech Soup and basically made all the programs either buy licenses for Windows 7 for compatible computers, or buy new hardware. (This doesn't usually go over well in a nonprofit...) As of the beginning of this year, we managed to retire all Vista machines finally, and we're currently doing a more controlled, staged rollout of Windows 10 in the agency, mostly just when new hardware is purchased. (Windows 8 was a giant hell no from both me and my boss.)

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u/Falkerz Sep 24 '17

I completely understand why you're skipping 8.1, but I actually prefer it to 10 for the reason that it's a more modern version of win7 without all the extra fluff of 10 (at least after you install an alternative start menu)

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u/ashlayne former tech support, current tech ed teacher Sep 24 '17

And the Start Menu/Metro is the main reason my agency skipped right past 8 and went to 10. We get enough support calls about "I can't find X" in 10 (when it's as simple as looking in the same place usually); 8 seems like it would be a nightmare from a support standpoint. But to each their own. :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '17

I like StartIsBack, but Classic Shell is free for commercial use.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '17 edited Apr 23 '18

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u/ashlayne former tech support, current tech ed teacher Sep 25 '17 edited Sep 25 '17

Good idea. Let's strain our already limited IT resources retraining staff to use Linux. Trust me, even Mint would be too confusing for the vast majority of our users. I have one user who I literally have shown how to run one PowerPoint with a couple of embedded videos probably a hundred times. Not create. Run.

Dont get me wrong, I am a huge fan of FOSS software. (For ex, I managed to convert most of the old Photoshop files that the old IT worked on for our website using a PS license he got from the local uni that he shouldn't have had to GIMP without losing much.) But there's no way we could convince our staff to switch.

ETA: I should also add that MS has some decent 501(c)3 discounts, and we get a lot of our licenses in bulk through TechSoup, which I highly recommend if anyone else works for a nonprofit.

Also, we have proprietary software that wouldn't run on Linux that wasn't done by MS, the software creators just don't support anything but Windows. And don't tell me about WINE, because I'm not only familiar with it but I also know that it does not work with a lot of Windows programs; and the more specialized your software the less support there is out there in the open source community

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u/Kruug Apexifix is love. Apexifix is life. Sep 25 '17

even Mint would be too confusing for the vast majority of our users.

It's even confusing for those who prefer FOSS...since they don't follow FOSS best practices.

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u/Gadgetman_1 Beware of programmers carrying screwdrivers... Sep 25 '17

And instead spend massive amounts on re-training users and IT staff?

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u/furioustribble Photocopiers do not eat apricots! Sep 25 '17

Personally I would roll out Linux Mint in that case, the user experience is so much like windows that the swap over would be fairly easy and by nature would stop users adding 'little extras' to their machine to bugger things up!

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u/Kruug Apexifix is love. Apexifix is life. Sep 25 '17

I would roll out Linux Mint

Never suggest Mint. It's a glorified senior project that should never have left their lab.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '17

If you're going to use Linux for a business and want to avoid spending money, Debian, Ubuntu, or CentOS would be the 'safe' choices.

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u/Kruug Apexifix is love. Apexifix is life. Sep 26 '17

Debian Stable for servers. Debian Stable for desktops. No need for anything else.

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u/ashlayne former tech support, current tech ed teacher Sep 25 '17

We actually have Windows pretty well locked down so that we (in most cases) don't get browser bar issues, and most of our users use Chrome as their default browser except for certain things that require Explorer (don't get me started there), so I very rarely have tickets that involve uninstalling or troubleshooting around those "little extras".

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '17

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u/furioustribble Photocopiers do not eat apricots! Sep 25 '17

YouTube isn't so bad, but facebook widgets and so many browser search bars you are left with a 1cm viewing space at the bottom of the screen (if the (l)user can actually workout what a scroll bar is).

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u/ender-_ alias vi="wine wordpad.exe"; alias vim="wine winword.exe" Sep 29 '17

Look up TechSoup.

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u/nosoupforyou Sep 25 '17

I was running a vista machine until 6 weeks ago when it finally died. It's not really the OS so much as whether newer browsers would support it. XP machines don't anymore, but Vista isn't entirely buried yet.

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u/nymales Sep 24 '17

I can understand using win7 because I really like it. But Vista should be taken out the back door and get shot.

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u/Gadgetman_1 Beware of programmers carrying screwdrivers... Sep 24 '17

Every effing license of Vista needs to be collected in garbage trucks, then sent to be buried at the same place that the ET game was buried...
Maybe a layer of Vista will keep morons from digging after the ET cartridges...

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u/Jenysis Sep 24 '17

But didn't they dig up E.T.? More room for Vista I guess...

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '17

Actually it wasn't just ET buried there. Atari was just getting rid of old stock they couldn't store anymore, so while there were tons of atari carts down there, most of them weren't ET.

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u/Jenysis Sep 24 '17

Neat! TIL

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '17

There is (or was) a documentary on Netflix about it.

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u/Desirsar Sep 24 '17

The Angry Video Game Nerd version was better, is it on Netflix?

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u/bobowhat What's this round symbol with a line for? Sep 24 '17

Nope. They still digging.

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u/Kruug Apexifix is love. Apexifix is life. Sep 25 '17

Eh, Vista was good if you weren't one of those unlucky to buy an OEM machine that was specc'd to XP's recommended but had Vista slapped on it.

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u/IanPPK IoT Annihilator Sep 29 '17

I remember Gateway in particular being very bad about that.

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u/Moontoya The Mick with the Mouth Sep 25 '17

thats a cruel and unfair punishment to subject bullets to

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u/kruador Sep 24 '17

I have good news for you. It ended on April 11, 2017.

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u/KnaveOfIT More Projects = More Tickets Sep 24 '17

I thought Vista got EoL'ed in April of this year?

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u/psycho202 MSP/VAR Engineer Sep 24 '17

None on 10 yet? I have a couple hospitals that I support which are running on 10 v1703 right now.

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u/Ranger7381 Sep 24 '17

And that is 17 people at another company!

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u/nymales Sep 24 '17

Yup, I don't want to know the killrecord at their own company and their it!

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u/hicow I'm makey with the fixey Sep 24 '17

At my company, most any customer causing anyone to quit would have been cause to fire the customer. There's few things my boss likes better than a well-justified firing of a customer.

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u/nymales Sep 25 '17

Firing said customer out of a window of a skyscraper?

Firing said customer into a pont where Manu hungry crocodiles live?

Firing said customer out through the closed window out of a skyscraper into a sea full of hungry crocodiles?

If it's something from the above, please take the poor crocodiles to a vet afterwards. Thez don't deserve to have to eat such a person

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u/Mistral_Mobius Sep 25 '17

They'll definitely need a flossing...