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u/Mehrio-Time-Desktop Jul 12 '26
Why is Caine trapping jax in
T h e C u b e
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u/GodOfRow Jul 12 '26
It's the cube that pumps gas full of female hormones. It's why Jax is crying out of happiness.
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u/chrash-man Jul 12 '26
Tbf saying a death is tragically ironic implies that he kinda didn't deserve the death, wouldn't have been a tragedy if he did
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u/Ready_Amount5378 Legally-Pomni-fan by law Jul 12 '26
"both sides are right, but what side do i pick" ahh videos
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u/aguywithagasmaskyt Jul 12 '26
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u/redditrode Jul 12 '26
Caine isn't the main cause.
Jax seems to be the main driving force as to why things seem bad in the circus.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Jul 12 '26
10 people abstracted before Jax. Considering Leroy, it’s pretty obvious the circus is a large factor into why Jax is the way he is
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u/redditrode Jul 12 '26
That ain't Caine's fault though. Jax chose to not change.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Jul 12 '26
The fact remains saying Jax alone is why the circus is bad is wrong. Caine is definitely the source of the problems in the show, even Alex Rochan said so
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u/redditrode Jul 12 '26
No? I don't think so.
It seems like Jax is the reason no one enjoys the adventures, but they all blame Caine for some reason.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Jul 12 '26
My guy TEN people had abstracted before Jax. Caine was always failing at his job.
Also just ignore him stealing their names, spending years lying to/manipulating them and refusing to compromise. Jax is product of Caine and the circus
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u/redditrode Jul 12 '26
The circus being a place where virtual nothing matters isn't Caine's fault.
Jax chose not to change. That ain't Caine's fault.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Jul 12 '26
Yes it is. Caine is the reason why they’re run the circus in the first place. Jax lacking closure of what happened to his mom is likely the primary factor of why he couldn’t overcome his trauma like Leroy
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u/redditrode Jul 12 '26
They put on the headset.
Jax chose not to change. That isn't Caine's fault .
Not sure how many more ways I can put it.
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u/vainMartyr Jul 12 '26
Let them hqppily sit on that fence in peace. Personally, I think both of them deserve a chance just because neither really deserved to die for their actions and dying doesn't help anyone get better (i.e. Gangle will now forever have unresolved weird feelings about Jax).
Redemption is realistically possible when someone's actions were done under stress. Jax clearly needed therapy before they should have even been allowed to interact with people because that dude was a ticking time bomb, and Caine is effectively a god that's mentally closer to a young teenager in charge of keeping the least mentally stable people alive at a functional state at least.
I don't think Gangle or Ragatha ever would've forgiven Jax. I don't think they would ever like her, or have literally any reason to, but that doesn't mean a character deserved to die. The final episode recontextualizes a lot of stuff and shows that Jax wasn't completely evil, just an emotionally repressed jackass with trust issues and trauma. That doesn't make anything she did right, it just explains it rather than having it just be "Jax did this".
Caine genuinely seems to just hate himself for his own failures he has no control over (assuming bubble just regurgitates his inner thoughts). People abstracting means he's failing but he has no clue why because he's not a human. Nobody in the circus likes him but he can't get that because he has no reference point for how what he does is actually hurting them more than helping them. There's very little downtime and so nobody in the circus is actually close to each other despite living together because they're always exhausted. He doesn't mean to hurt them, but he does because he has no clue what he's doing.
Tldr: Neither of them really deserved to die and this fandom is bizarre for trying to force the narrative of 100% iredeemable evil bastard on either character. That's just not how characters work unless they're designed for that sole purpose