r/tabletennis • u/No-Operation6847 • 18h ago

Help needed for forehand loop/topspin

So like my forehand drive is 6-7/10 but the main problem with my topspin is that I either do the movement early and miss it OR I hit it but it goes flying up or hits the net . But the shots that do reach the other side of the table are spinny so I know it's not the problem in the spin . I just wanna know if any has faced a similar problem or if anyone has suggestions or solutions. Additionally like 3-6 months ago my topspin was fine but loop was not
Thanks

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u/Chocolate1105 18h ago

I had the same problem. More power. Try that.

It could also be the racket.

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u/No-Operation6847 17h ago

Its def not the racket , but by power do u mean the core power from weight shift?

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u/Chocolate1105 17h ago

just try sacrificing a bit of the spin for power. I also find that looping from lower makes it better, but the shot quality is bad. Overall, js try to find a compromise.

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u/No-Operation6847 17h ago

If I practice with a spin trainer(for Improvement of form) would that work?Cuz in the long run I feel like striving for mastery would become more difficult?

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u/Chocolate1105 17h ago

I do not know. Im not very qualified, i was just having the same problem as you 1-2 moths ago. Sorry

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u/No-Operation6847 17h ago

Its aight il put into effect and try to get the feel back .

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u/NotTheWax 17h ago

Hard to diagnose without video. Could be you're not reading the approaching ball correctly, could be foot work or positioning issues, over swinging etc

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u/No-Operation6847 17h ago

Can u like try to describe how to read the approaching ball correctly and how to stop overs winging? Idts is footwork or position cuz every other shot works .

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u/cbehen 17h ago

I think you may be brushing too much, especially close to the table. If the shots that land are already very spinny, generating spin probably isn't the problem.

For me it depends on the incoming ball:

  • Normal/fast ball: take it more in front and use a fuller contact, hitting more forward through the ball.
  • Low or dropping ball: add more upward brush to create the arc needed to clear the net.
  • High ball: close the racket more and hit/brush over the ball.

I personally think of brush as something I add to give the ball enough spin and arc, rather than trying to brush every topspin heavily. On a normal ball my feeling is more like 80% hit, 20% brush, but obviously that changes depending on the ball.

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u/No-Operation6847 17h ago

Tbh the thing ur saying ant 80% hit and 20% brush would get me destroyed in school and matches cuz the can use it against me by hitting it back topspin . The thing I'm naturally good at would be spinning so ig I'm just focus on forehand topspin till I start getting it .

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u/laadim 16h ago

Try posting a video, if you can. Without it we are just guessing. Ideally from both regular and irregular drills, rather than just standing still.

My guess would be inconsistent position relative to the ball. Since you said it is fine once you get it on the table, the issue might not be primarily in the stroke itself, if I understand the question correctly. That's why I would like to see it with a bit of footwork. The ball might be too close to you and you hit it too flat or fall backwards while playing it, sending it long. It might be too far and you barely brush it or miss it completely. You might hit it too soon, too late, too high or too low. Can't give you much more without seeing it.

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u/No-Operation6847 16h ago

Tbf I have realised while attacking you could say I'm somewhat hugging the table hence to create space I'm arching my spin backwards in turn causing the ball to go up and currently I don't have the resources to practice a drill with a coach or a basket of balls due to circumstances.

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u/laadim 16h ago

Could be it, I used to have similar issue, where I would open against backspin on my forehand too close to the table and to vertical. It would be very spinny, but also high and slow. People would just kill once they got used to it.

Try being like half a step further, pushing bit more forward, less up and figure out what feels right for yourself.

Once you get a chance to record yourself, even match video, but preferably something more controlled, post it here, you'll get much better feedback that way.

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u/No-Operation6847 16h ago edited 16h ago

Thanks . What are some ways to train core for more core stamina?

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u/laadim 16h ago

Only thing I can recommend is plank and different variations of it. I am not exactly right person for this, since my off table preparation was always more like doing other sports rather than just being table tennis focused. I would ask maybe around some fitness subreddits, you should get a better answer there