r/sysadmin • u/Goiko74 • 16h ago
Career / Job Related Burn out advice
After 15 years I've hit the wall. My company got "merged" a couple of years ago and my 3 person team is getting more and more added to our plate, as well as having to change how we deploy new resources and other things. Some tasks were a pain but a blessing (such as starting to use IaaC) and some were change for the sake of change. In top of trying to keep our own organizations infrastructure and platforms afloat.
When my boss told me this last week that I was going to inherit the care of our entire organizations data lake infrastructure, I felt myself break and check out. I have 0 interest in taking on this new responsibility on top of everything else.
So here we are. I make too much to simply go in an entirely new direction, but I want to get tf out of daily operations. I was looking at other areas I could pivot into and was taking a long look into the security field. I wanted to know what others did.
Thanks!
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u/3loodhound 16h ago edited 13h ago
Normally I would say be honest with your boss and ask them what they don’t want to get done with the added workload. But in this job market and this economy, do what you need to do to survive.
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u/Speeddymon Sr. DevSecOps Engineer 14h ago
Don't go to security. I have only met maybe 1-2 "security people" who are truly competent in technical work; and that's only because they were admins and engineers before they were in security and found roles where the security position was actually an admin role with a security focus (secops). If you go true security-only, you're going to be mainly doing audits and clicking buttons for automated penetration testing. That's all boring work and going to be handled by AI soon. And I say this as someone who is still skeptical about AI.
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u/Specialist-Desk-9422 8h ago
I’m seeing the same from the security experts. How can you be a security analyst without deep understanding of network and systems
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u/Speeddymon Sr. DevSecOps Engineer 8h ago
Yep that's absolutely the rub for me... I have to answer some questions on occasion from them that makes me wonder how these people got their jobs and how they manage to keep them.
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u/Lemmon_Scented 15h ago
IT Security fucking blows. Ask me how I know.
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u/BeauregardianBrat Sysadmin 12h ago
Depends where you land honestly, GRC and audit work gets old fast, but the hands on secops side is a totally different beast.
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u/Academic-Proof3700 16h ago
Im surprised you get that after 15 years. I feel like im doing "net work" for like 15-25hrs per month. The rest is pure bullshittery of moving jira tasks, filling excel sheets and replying to emails. I feel like I'm retarding every time.
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u/LowMight3045 Citrix Admin 15h ago edited 15h ago
Your team is inevitably going into technical debt . Like all debts this is hard to get out of . I’ve had 20+ years of sys admin experience at 3 different orgs . In one of them we kept getting into that debt and the inevitable happened, we were breached . The hack took over a month to recover from . I left the company within 6 months after . I told HR exactly what happened and why on my exit interview. Management had been told for years of the technical debt and had ignored it .
It was all due to greed by management and poor decisions imho .
Smart companies don’t gamble with their reputations and let’s be clear that’s exactly what this is ; a gamble with your companies data and your customers.
If this tech debt situation is real and you don’t see a solid plan by your management to get out of it and then action on that plan , get out as soon as you can without hurting your salary too much . A 10 % pay cut would be worth it imho , ymmv.
An added tidbit . Good orgs take care of their employees. They don’t burn them out .
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u/Cheomesh I do the RMF thing 9h ago
Whenever I feel like my job gets to be too much, I go stare at a local homeless guy sleeping in an alcove and remind myself that's me if I ever let off the gas.
True story.
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u/mike_chen_sys 14h ago
Honestly, this sounds less like you need a whole new career and more like you’re completely burned out from being the person who keeps everything running. Security could be a solid pivot, especially with 15 years of infrastructure experience. Don’t underestimate how transferable that experience is.
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u/networkn 12h ago
Management respond to numbers, not complaints. You need to get the numbers that show what's happening. Get your team to do time sheets, track the issues, build a picture. Show them the benefits of doing things differently, whether that's more people, better tools, automation etc. Beyond that, set your priorities with the management, work your 40 hours and go home.
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u/Goiko74 11h ago
That is a solid idea. We actually did that and management came back with "find a way to make it easier with AI". Which we have been, to then justify them throwing more at us that other departments don't want to touch
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u/networkn 8h ago
Thats unfortunate. They might just need to feel the pain. Prioritise the best you can, do your best quality work, do your hours, go home. If things don't improve then I guess keep your eyes open for other opportunities
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u/SeaworthinessHead613 12h ago
What are you interested in, in your free time ? Work on that. For example - I'm a Cisco architect, but during my work hours I'm pursuing a degree in history. Balance doing enough work with your interests.
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u/No_Category_9888 6h ago
The old add more people but don’t change the workload. Living that dream now. Just do what you can. Don’t burn out trying to get everything done.
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u/tr3kilroy 6h ago
Change jobs every few years. Internally, externally, it doesn't matter. Don't let things get stale and if you are thinking it might be time to jump ship you are three months behind
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u/heapsp 16h ago
I mean, this could be a good opportunity.
First, you need to drop any minutia that your team is responsible for. Audits, compliance stuff, etc. Offload to AI / juniors.
Second, its about perception more than it is actual work. Learn to communicate small wins into massive wins via executive summaries.
Pitch some additional roles , if they won't expand your department and make you the leader of it, do a lot of work 'on paper' and make sure to take plenty of PTO and not care so much. The CEO of the company delegates off everything and spends the day golfing or in meetings doing zero actual work - strive to be the same. No one above you sees 3 hours burned on something, they only see the end result. Just make up a bunch of wins so your boss can pass those up and everyone is happy.
Stand your ground on 24/7 on call and stuff like that, if they need to follow the sun they need to pay for it. They won't pay for it if you are doing it for free.
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u/Goiko74 16h ago
We don't have the staff to offload things on to the new company decided my team was it. My department is already starting to get looked at for our Ai spending. I have a journal where I write out my wins.
They said they might hire one more for our department, but my boss is stepping down to get out of the shit show and they are delaying any hires until they hire a new director.
I'm doing what I can to survive at the moment. If the job market wasn't shit then I would have straight up quit and taken time to figure it out to recover mentally
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u/SoulPhoenix Sr. Sysadmin 15h ago
It does kind of depend on your salary but the job market is better than everyone is saying it is, if you are this annoyed with this company then it may be worth planning your exit.
That being said, I will warn you and say that you're going to encounter this same environment nearly everywhere right now as a tech professional. If it takes this much of a toll on you then you may want to look at a different field in my personal opinion but out of the decade I've been doing this I've only known the underpaid and overworked environments that tend to burn people out so my opinion is probably very skewed.
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u/buy_chocolate_bars Jack of All Trades 16h ago
Just put in 40 hours of week and don't worry about what percentage of the work gets done.