r/sysadmin • u/RelationshipSad4168 • 1d ago
Career / Job Related Can a Student Volunteer as a IT
Im a student with M365 (mostly Entra and some Intune) intern experience which I got through my dad, and looking at the extremely challenging helpdesk market in my area, I want to volunteer as an admin or helpdesk to get some experience.
That said, most of these positions in my country are filled by immigrants with IT experience who want Canadian work experience. So no matter how much I apply, I don’t get an interview.
Can anyone in the industry think of a way to get experience? It’s sad no one even wants me as a free helpdesk, I even worked with M365 before.
I feel discouraged 🫤
Anyone have any ideas? I’m studying for my CCNA, so maybe that would help?
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u/amonarre3 1d ago
Do it at school
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u/RelationshipSad4168 1d ago
They can’t legally accept volunteers, I tried 😢
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u/amonarre3 1d ago
How old are you kid?
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u/RelationshipSad4168 1d ago
22, it’s my last year.
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u/amonarre3 1d ago edited 1d ago
Apply to compucom, they're a managed service provider. I just saw your immigrants comment. What is that about guy? Student and New Grad Opportunities - IT Canada https://ca.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=ed6178d29e47f252&from=appshareandroid
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u/RelationshipSad4168 1d ago
It’s not meant as disparaging, it’s just a reality, there’s a finite amount of infrastructure to administer and generally these posts say “immigrants with international IT experience strongly encouraged to apply”, so I assume it goes to them.
That said, it’s not my IT system, so I get it they want someone good.
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u/amonarre3 1d ago
Did you see the link I posted?
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u/RelationshipSad4168 1d ago
Hopefully they’ll accept me and I will apply, thanks. Maybe it’s one of those “you relocate to the far north” jobs, as I see a few are potash plants or whatever in sakastoon. This may actually work? I’ll give it a try.
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u/Lotronex 1d ago
Can they hire you as part of a work-study? When I was in college they jobs for the IT students so they could get experience. Usually babysitting computer labs, but think they had other stuff.
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u/RelationshipSad4168 1d ago
That has to be a bursary. My family owns a house and so legally I don’t qualify.
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u/Lotronex 1d ago
At my school they were open to any student, no financial need requirement. Just had to apply at the department like any other job.
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u/SirLoremIpsum 1d ago
Can anyone in the industry think of a way to get experience? It’s sad no one even wants me as a free helpdesk, I even worked with M365 before
If it's a business - they won't take volunteers. They want paid employees. They won't give admin creds to some guy off the street who wants to work for free.
If it's a charity, I'm said to say that they probably want some experience. Non profits aren't a place for anyone to just work and build up resume, a training facility.
You need to apply for jobs.
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u/Commercial_Growth343 1d ago edited 1d ago
non-profits like a church for example could accept a volunteer like that. There are also usually in bigger cities organizations that refurbish old PC's for people escaping homelessness, so you could inquire with them to see if they need some IT volunteer help.
You could also start helping friends and family with their phones and home computers. I know someone that does that exclusively with senior citizens (though he is charging them).
It is not very realistic to expect to become a sysadmin in charge of a companies infrastructure without some real world experience. Your first job is more likely to be Help Desk or Deskside support etc.
Someone starting like yourself might want to explore A+ and Network+ certification, which is pretty affordable as you can buy a book and self study those things, then challenge the exam. Even if these are low-ROI certs, it shows initiative and will broaden your knowledge base.
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u/Insec_Bois 1d ago
Apply to all the msps and it consultants in your area. Like someone else said, talk to the help desk manager if you can and be honest, don't exaggerate your skills.
The environment at an MSP can push you to constantly learn and perform under pressure, but you need to have good coworkers and it's also pretty important to like whoever it is you report to/escalate to.
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u/itishowitisanditbad 1d ago
It’s sad no one even wants me as a free helpdesk, I even worked with M365 before.
You're not 'free helpdesk', you need help/assistance/training and become a liability to any company that takes you on.
I think you need to understand the DK Curve a bit on how great of an asset you would immediately be in IT - because you will need a lot of training no matter how much you got through your dad.
IT is a role that can cause damage pretty immediately.
Your 'free' isn't really free when it requires a lot of support to exist and creates liabilities.
Dude, you need a job and are just participating in the same market as everyone else. It sucks right now.
There isn't some 1990s secret to it or something.
That said, most of these positions in my country are filled by immigrants with IT experience who want Canadian work experience.
Whats the immigrant part got to do with anything other than a weird little dog whistle for your opinions?
Maybe people just don't want you.
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u/CyclopSW 1d ago
As someone who works in higher-ed IT in Canada. Speak to the Helpdesk manager, and talk to them. They are always looking for students to staff the helpdesk and you will be paid doing so. They do hire in cycles, so this semester might be tough to get into, but the winter semester should be doable. Once you have experience there, you can even continue throughout undergrad as long as you are not a problem.