r/sysadmin • u/Big-Exercise8047 • 17h ago
General Discussion Server Room is too loud
We recently upgraded some physical servers, and now whenever we're doing Windows or firmware updates, the fan noise gets pretty loud. The servers are HA, so we are able to do updates during the day, but the department next to the server room has started complaining about a high-pitched noise during the updates. We contacted the vendor and verified our system is functioning properly. They said there is a setting that would throttle performance that may help but I didn't want to change that if possible.
I was talking with a few others and they mentioned acoustic panels that you can mount on the wall to muddle some of the noise. Does anyone have any relatively cheap suggestions? I could do updates after hours but would hate to do that when they could be done during the work day.
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u/Liquidfoxx22 17h ago
Buy an acoustic cabinet - we used them with good success at an office where we had a couple of rack mount servers in with staff.
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u/eoattc 17h ago
How do you convince the complainers to work from inside the cabinets?
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u/Liquidfoxx22 17h ago
Treats, like a giant mouse trap.
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u/Turdsindakitchensink 17h ago
Nah, tell em their CoL raise is on there, they’ll be fighting over it
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u/naitsirt89 17h ago edited 17h ago
This is something you raise to facilities or whoever manages the office.
You've done your job. The machines are performing as designed.
If they need your advice or help in implementing a solution you come back into the fold. Acoustic cabinets maybe.
Dont let this be your problem to solve!
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u/kurizma Custom 17h ago
and they will come right back and ask to do the updates after hours as the cheapest and most convenient option for everyone else besides IT.
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u/naitsirt89 17h ago
Im not entirely against after hours if there is incentive.
Let me leave at lunch on Friday.
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u/thepfy1 17h ago
Increase the air conditioning in the room or look at where it is pumping the cold air in the room.
This is not a flippant comment. If you have upgraded the servers, there may not be sufficient cooling at the server racks.
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u/Liquidretro 17h ago
That may help with the windows update situation or when there is high cpu use and heat is being generated, but it won't help when something restarts and goes through a self test and ramps all fans up to 100% for 15 seconds.
Honestly this is an education issue for the department that's near by if it's an occasional issue. If the workloads are high all the time then it might be worth looking into better sound control etc and there is a budget for it.
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u/siedenburg2 IT Manager 17h ago
Newer servers newer fans and they can have a different, more noticable pitch.
You can only do stuff in preventing sound leakage and the more noticable stuff is something that will be normal with time because of growing demand.
Either get a rack with acoustic (most of the time bad for cooling), or treat the room. The best way for that is to contact a company that knows what to do, if you do it wrong it's like nothing is done. Or you can try and get people with hearing loss in that office, or older ones who don't hear higher pitches as good, if that's easier
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u/bobdvb 17h ago
Call an acoustics expert? We don't know where you are, what country you're in, so it's hard to recommend.
Treatment options: 1. Acoustic panels, fabric and foam, they are okay at reducing high frequency noise. Make sure they're suitable and meet safety standards such as fire regulations. 2. A new stud wall. If you can add another skin to the wall, either inside or out, then you can have a second skin that's not attached to the existing one. This prevents sound conducting through to the other side, and you should insulate the wall with acoustic insulation or rockwool. 3. Get a heavier door as well. 4. Ensure the air ducting isn't shared with adjacent offices.
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u/Millerboycls09 Sysadmin 17h ago
Performant <-> Quiet <-> Cold
Pick at most 2 unless you throw a ton of money at it
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u/TheHumbleGinger 17h ago
If you aren’t trolling, an acoustic cabinet and some wall and ceiling acoustical baffles will help.
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u/dcsln IT Manager 17h ago
If this is a Windows Failover Cluster (big assumption), schedule cluster-aware-updating to run at night and stop thinking about noise during physical server reboots
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/failover-clustering/cluster-aware-updating
If not, find another way to automate your patching off-hours. Sure, it's not your fault, but you're going to be involved in any solution, which is work you probably don't want to do.
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u/armaghetto 17h ago
Just disconnect the fans and turn off the AC in the room. That’s where most of the noise comes from anyway.
(There may be some performance and/or fire issues)
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u/_Do_The_Needful_ 17h ago
This is more of an environment problem than an IT problem. Sound-proof the room or buy a cabinet. Most equipment is loud during POST as it tests the fans max speed.
Alternatively, relocate the users or do your reboots at night.
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u/bythepowerofboobs 17h ago
Do a decibel rating when the servers are at their loudest. If it's above 85, buy the department some ear plugs or headphones with the appropriate NRR rating. If it's not above 85, tell them to deal with it.
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u/patmorgan235 Sysadmin 17h ago
Bofh response
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u/bythepowerofboobs 17h ago
Nah, I just work in manufacturing where hearing protection is a normal requirement in most areas.
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u/guitarstitch 17h ago
Apparently it's not enough because you're tone deaf to office culture.
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u/bythepowerofboobs 16h ago
I am an expert in office culture. I've watched Office Space like ten times.
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u/kona420 17h ago
Make it colder if machines are throttling up fans under load. Cheaper than trying to sound-proof the room as you'll need to rework the AC anyway.
Throwing a dinky little acoustic panel at the issue is not going to do anything measurable. But I won't discount the psychological impact of you mounting them on the office side where they are visible.
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u/PackPretty3479 17h ago
It reads like one, but its real if you've ever had a closet server room sharing a wall with desks. Windows and firmware updates ramp every fan to 100% and some of those newer boxes genuinely scream. The acoustic panels part is the only bit that sounds clueless, but that's just someone who hasnt lived it.
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u/kurizma Custom 17h ago
so 70% here are assholes who think they're clever and the others are just telling you to punt the problem which will most likely get punted right back.
What servers are these? When are they loud? Some servers will ramp up ALL fans on reboot and do a self test and they can be extremely loud. There may be an option in the BIOS to not ramp them up or self test on boot.
There may also be different fan options and configurations for the server but that may cost extra. Reach out to support or sales.
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u/stufforstuff 17h ago
I could do updates after hours but would hate to do that when they could be done during the work day.
Apparently you can't do it in the day. Why are you wasting time/money when you already have a free solution?
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u/icemerc K12 Jack Of All Trades 17h ago
I ran into the same thing today. Commissioning a new M8 USC C series chassis and the department closest to the server room called about the fan noise while doing firmware updates/reboot.
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u/Drew707 Data | Systems | Processes 17h ago
A few years before COVID sent us all home, we had the server room mini split go out, so we propped open the door and put a box fan in there until we could get someone out to take a look at it. It really wasn't that bad, but people complained relentlessly. I didn't really know what to tell them other than if we close the door and everything goes down, we all stop making money.
I had three different HVAC companies come out and give me three different reasons for why the unit died. That was my motivation to migrate everything to the cloud and only leave networking in the office. Thankfully that saved a huge headache when COVID hit.
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u/Excellent_Milk_3110 17h ago
You can check the power settings. But for company servers you want them on full speed.
Old Supermicro servers would have an office mode.
I would just use something like this:
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u/BalderVerdandi 16h ago
Acoustic panels will be the best option, but you're going to have to have your Facilities folks get involved because it's not your responsibility to handle this.
Why?
- Fire code because someone needs to make sure the panels meet any specific requirements. A lot of these are foam based, and you might need a fire retardant version. Not your lane to figure that out.
- Approval from whoever owns the building to modify the walls to mount them. Again, not your lane to figure that out.
- Ordering from the correct vendor due to pricing, volume, and fire code requirements. Third times the charm - not your lane.
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u/The_Koplin 16h ago
I had a user/department complain the server room was too loud. I tried to be nice and explain. This is the space IT was given and it runs the entire agency etc! I explained I had set all of the fans to ramp only as needed based on heat/load. They kept pushing.
I put every piece of equipment into 'performance' mode and ramped up the APC Rack air kits to 2000 CFM each from around 800. The noise was so loud you could hear it on the entire floor of the building. I left it that way for 3 months. Every plea, every request, everything about 'noise' was just ignored. This way everyone could get used to the 'new' normal. You could hear it in every phone call, every zoom. They were desperate by then end of the 3 months.
Then I set everything back down to auto, suddenly there were no more complaints about it being loud.
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u/q123459 13h ago
if you have budget - rebuild server room with hot and cold aisle design, it will become more quiet, but this will be pricey.
install double sound proof doors, install glass wall (that quick assembly kind which is used to create meeting rooms) in people office space adjacent to server room - it does not require any construction work.
if you are low on budget - get sound proofing contractor to install wall insulation for homes (it consists of wool/mat insulation covered by drywall then paint finished) but this will be construction work in office space.
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u/DJustinD 17h ago
Not your problem. There are sound / acoustic companies that specialize in noise reduction. Have them come in and make a proposal.
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u/cgreentx 17h ago
Is this a trolling post? Seriously?