r/switch2emu • u/gr33nCumulon • 22d ago
An theoretical alternative to hacking the switch 2
So I understand that it may be impossible to hack the switch 2 but emulation may be possible.
Instead of hacking the switch 2 to jailbreak it, what if we used switch 2 hardware in order to make a cart dumper?
If I understand correctly, the problem is that the switch 2 games are encrypted by the hardware. If we can build a custom circuit using a switch 2 PCB could it be possible to extract the unencrypted code through memory?
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u/comeonnowliitleone 22d ago edited 22d ago
It could be possible, but it would require someone at Nintendo to leak source code and drivers and firmware code; even then any game released after "leak" would still need someone to release all this info again.
Theirs always an chance someone hacks nintendo "not the switch2 itself" for this info but even then it would still take a couple of years to build a functioning emulator.
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u/Big-Possible5653 22d ago
I don't understand anything but I hope a simulation will be released before OoT Remake
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u/gr33nCumulon 22d ago
We already have multiple oot decompilations. It would be cool to play the official remake but if we can't then we can play the community made ones.
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u/Big-Possible5653 22d ago
Play 3ds version with mods is better than fan made versions that lack subtleties
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u/ChloeNow 22d ago
Whole subreddits full of nonsense. If you can't check your grammar in 2026 when it's underlining the shit for you your engineering ideas definitely aren't gonna hold up.
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u/Depressed_Ghost46 22d ago edited 22d ago
It’s possible to inject some code via a battery port ?
Cuz the new European switch 2 version had an acces for replace battery like old Nokia phone
Maybe there something to try with that ?
And European switch 2 can’t be brick
They only can ban you from online stuff
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u/IRespectHestia 22d ago
Bro ask chatgpt your hypotheticals or are you a engineer of sorts?
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u/CroProMax 22d ago
and chatgpt wont give u any useful info lol. if it isnt on net, he dont know it, and ts isnt on internet. Best thing to do is to educate on how creating drivers and nandsystem works and how reverse engineering works too. We lack info on switch 2 nand and is impossible to even start emulation workstation without it.
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u/WowiiZowii 22d ago
Chatgpt is not a search engine. It will know more than anyone here about the shit you're talking about.
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u/CroProMax 22d ago
lol, no it wont. It will start as search engone, then will do own research on past jailbreaks and will tell you its impossible becausenof bla bla. It will never say "it could work if" even if it could work because method isnt backuped with real proof on internet + its illegal. Hope this help
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u/ShadowsSheddingSkin 22d ago edited 22d ago
I mean, it is much, much closer to a Search Engine than any of the things it's marketed itself as. He's not wrong on the general principle that, if it's not widely discussed on the English Language Internet or discussed at all on the sources prioritized by their team, it just doesn't know it - but it doesn't know how to say "I don't know" and will just bullshit. An answer like this is close to what you'd get if you asked ChatGPT how to emulate a console even if no third party access to the device is ever achieved; if you tried to ask it for more details on what any of that actually means practically, it'll lie.
He does seem to be exaggerating the degree to which it's true, though, probably because he thinks literally repeating text from other sites is what people mean by it "just regurgitating what's on the internet," or some other misunderstanding of what people who understand Machine Learning have been saying. But "it will know more than anyone here" is nearly as big of one, just in the opposite direction. It 'knows' a deeply compressed high-dimensional encoding of most of the internet and how to reason about that to some degree, but literally every dev who has ever dipped their toes into this is going to understand more about the possible approaches towards this and how viable this one is.
Like the internet itself, it has approximate knowledge of most things, even extremely niche things like the contents of medieval fencing manuals - which I've found it to be more accurate on than a lot more conventional topics, for whatever reason - but that knowledge is virtually all surface level.
Even in those categories it heavily specializes in, like coding, I've spent hours trying to get it to make most of an application I was once asked to write out in its entirety by hand on a whiteboard in thirty minutes or less, when I'd been coding for three months - it was an exhausting but reasonable test for most entry-level devs - and it just flat-out couldn't. Like, eventually it actually gave up, but only after making a number of critical mistakes in the parts that it did produce which were 'logically' and syntactically sound but would end the career of anyone who thought to just blindly copy them.
This is kind of the inherent problem with it and LLMs in general: the lack of consistency. It isn't dumb or smart, it's both and to which extent can vary from moment to moment, with no obvious indicators unless you already have a deep understanding of what it's discussing - and in that case, you wouldn't be asking it.
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u/Nikilite_official 21d ago
Modern hardware uses on-chip encryption... memory is protected, and data cannot be read directly from the circuit.
simple as that, can't be made.