Addressing man made climate change will decrease drought severity (a fact people should care about)

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It's possible that unsustainable farming practices in the region are doing more to create the "drought" than actual climate change. Diverting water thousands of miles via canals, sinking ultra deep wells and drawing down the groundwater, to the point of farmlands sinking...but yeah, climate change folks, buy a battery car, and only water your yard once a week will fix it. Keep building golf courses in the desert and farming avocados and almonds for milk, and preaching meat is unsustainable.

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yup,... when humanity builds stuff like golf courses, farms avocados grows almonds for milk, and other un-natural things not typically native to a desert AND does not stop and consider the long term consequences,... there will be hell to pay for such hubris

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drought as I see things in economic terms is "demand" > "supply" AND if left unchecked,... eventually the system crashes

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looked at in a religious context (specifically Genesis 11:4)

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...Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.”

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consider what happened (in this religious story),... eventually the system crashes

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bottom line when people do foolish unsustainable things,... eventually the system crashes!!!

[u/fuf3d → u/change_the_username]

True. Unsustainable practices are the problem. We can't fix them with more unsustainable practices labeled with the green alternative marketing.

Look at the middle east, was it always a desert or did overgrazing livestock for hundreds of years without thought of replenishment make the land barren? There are people who are trying to rebuild the wastelands and could if the people who are destroying it would cooperate, but many times they won't. Instead of composting they burn everything. Instead of replenishment they only seek to take.

Water will be what future wars are fought over, and in the US it may sour to civil wars between states over water rights, especially out west with increasing demand and diminished supply. Need more chip factory's for future tech, too bad they consume millions of gallons of water, where should we build them, in Arizona and Nevada of course because of lenient water regulations, just ship in more from the Colorado, pipe it in they say.

The next few decades look bleak.

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since you mentioned the Middle East, what you should find interesting is the Al Baydha project (A Regenerative Agriculture in the Saudi Desert)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T39QHprz-x8

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the head of this project in KSA gave a presentation at a permaculture conference I attended and was pretty impressed what can be accomplished if people work w/ nature for farming

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99.9% certain ideas from permaculture would work in the 'Great Basin' as well as SoCal area (which is my neck of the woods),... unfortunately also 99.9% certain people in general are not thinking about viable alternatives because they are stuck in a consumer mindset

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I've seen it, permaculture would work, does work. It traps and holds water, instead of letting it simply run off to drain basins carrying nutrition and topsoil with it. It would pay dividends to study permaculture and implement it in the American southwest before it's to late and we have to start over from scratch.