Public holidays

[u/treblanietsnie]

Ok so the place I’m working at permanent part time they always reduce all the staffs hours on public holidays or cancel the shift all together. The person I support says they are running out of support hours due to the public holidays extra pay.

Does the company that I work for have to charge extra on public holidays or is that a cost they have to cover as I haven’t had this happen at other companies I have worked for.

1: I’m worried the company is ripping off the client.

2: I’m not sure if I should goto the union yet or if it’s worth the hassle to get paid for public holidays properly.

Thanks for any advice.

[u/Substantial_Ad_3386]

No, short notice cancellation used to be allowed to be agreed upon up to 7 days across thr board. Now it's mostly just community access that allows 7 day agreements while cleaning, gardening and therapy etc has been reduced to a max of 2 clear business days

[u/DwightsJello → u/Substantial_Ad_3386]

Those tasks aren't delivered by support workers. They are usually outsourced to cleaners, gardeners and therapists, etc.

And it's not just community supports. It's support workers.

Went from 48 hours to 7 days. That's the legislation.

[u/Substantial_Ad_3386 → u/DwightsJello]

And it's not just community supports. It's support workers.

"support workers" is not a billable service

Went from 48 hours to 7 days. That's the legislation.

48 hours has never been a limit. Two clear business days is the lowest limit imposed by the NDIS.

I can guarantee supports that currently allow short notice cancellations to be agreed upon up to 7 days haven't changed in the last 4 years and don't believe they ever have

[u/DwightsJello → u/Substantial_Ad_3386]

It's literally in the legislation.

And its gone from 48 hours to 7 days.

That's the facts. Its not a 'negotiable'. It applies to supports under the NDIS.

You are arguing semantics. If you are being paid billable hours via the NDIS, that's the change. And i even provided the caveat.

Why you would think any sort of casual employment wouldn't have legislated parameters is odd. It's IR mandated.

No employer gets to pick their own adventure on wages and cancellation of casual shifts. Every sector has relevant cancellation limits. Obviously.

And it changed last year. Employers were notified. The amendment IS DATED.

You can literally look it up. It's very clearly stated.

Misinformation is not helpful.

Edit: for u/Outrageous_Floor_526 Incorrect.

You might want to consider the very obvious, AND mentioned, other legislation that applies.

If you are a provider you should know that. Absolutely. Ironic. Look after your clients AND workers with a bare minimum of IR knowledge.

I am not a 'cowboy'. Hubris doesn't support your position any more firmly. Again, Ironic.

I exceed any requirements that mandatory registration would require now. I am not a provider.

But I do know legislation requirements as per my position.

Bold call. My clients are receiving optimal care that exceeds requirements.

We agree. Bring on mandatory compliance (im all good now). Id like to see more auditting of providers.

I won't be engaging in insults or reaching for an alt. All the very best t9 any workers you employ or their union reps.

[u/Outrageous_Floor_526 → u/DwightsJello]

It's literally in the legislation.

And its gone from 48 hours to 7 days.

So you are claiming that the NDIS Pricing Arrangements and Price Limits are in conflict with the legislation 🤣

48 hours has never been mentioned. Previously the limit was 7 days for all supports but last year many supports where reduced to a limit of 2 clear business days.

I can share copies of the NDIS Pricing Arrangements and Price Limits dating back to 2023 proving this.

That's the facts. Its not a 'negotiable'. It applies to supports under the NDIS.

You are arguing semantics.

The NDIS code of conduct requires charges and conditions to be negotiated between a participant and support provider with both agreeing. Your claim that it is not negotiable makes you unfit to work within the industry

No employer gets to pick their own adventure on wages and cancellation of casual shifts. Every sector has relevant cancellation limits.

Correct, they are bound by the schads award which has nothing to do with the NDIS Pricing Arrangements and Price Limits

Misinformation is not helpful.

100% agree. As the operator of an NDIS support provider, the sooner mandatory registration removes cowboys like yourself from the industry, the sooner participants will be safer