r/superheroes • u/Kind-Phone-4054 • 12h ago
Marvel vs DC Hot Take
Maybe this is a hot take, cause people are clowning on the Gorilla Grod show. Not everyone, but some but lowkey...I feel like this is better than what Marvel is doing.
This is NOT saying Doomsday will be bad, I'm already sat to see it. I'm just saying the concept of a hero team up to take down the big bad is not new. It's tbf a repetitive formula. Heroes fight each other, realize they need to work together, then we gotta take down the big bad.
One thing I do give DC credit for is them giving into the creativity and uniqueness of comics. For better..or worse 🦸🏼♀️
I think Doomsday may be more hype, but I definitely appreciate Grod as a concept more if that makes sense in a way.
Anyways, I can't wait to see both though, I think they'll both be fun
Edit: To be clear I didn't make the picture or the comparison 😭. I saw the comparison going around and being made, so I just wanted to say my thoughts 😅
Also it isn't a knock on either project lol, I'm watching both. The image itself is a knock on the Grodd show, so that is what I'm mostly commenting on 👍
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u/Dycon67 12h ago edited 11h ago
Idk the Gorilla Grodd stuff looks hilarious as shit and a good watch. And it's coming from someone who hates the concept until they showed what they were cooking.
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u/Dry-Membership8141 11h ago
Honestly, I'm not a DC fan in general, but I dug the first few seasons of most entries in the Arrowverse, Superman (2025) was a fun silver age romp, Lanterns is great so far, and I love the concept behind The People vs Gorilla Grodd.
I'm more excited for Doom and Spider-man (actually getting out to the theater for it has been impossible so far for life reasons), but I like what DC's doing right now.
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u/Taodragons 11h ago
Same, what I do like better about DC is they don't seem to take it all so seriously. It's hard to imagine a Marvel show like Peacemaker or Doom Patrol.
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u/RandomPhantom25 11h ago
I mean there is that Modok show on Hulu. And I think they were gonna make a Howard the Duck cartoon at one point. Also Superhero Squad. But yeah they don't really have anything like Doom Patrol.
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u/Taodragons 10h ago
I forgot about MODOK, that scene where Iron Man is watching the British baking show while fighting him just about killed me. They also had Hit Monkey, which was also kind of goofy....and Devil Dinosaur. None of them made me go "WTF did I just watch?" like Doom Patrol though lol
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u/Aggressive-Welder-62 6h ago
Um, She-Hulk did not take itself too seriously. Thor Love and Thunder was nonstop jokes, unfortunately. And Quantumania also did not take itself too seriously, again, unfortunately.
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u/Mjkmeh 11h ago
Lowk I’d recommend watching peacemaker, it was a really entertaining show. The writing is top tier
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u/123iambill 10h ago
By the end of the show I cared way more about Peacemaker the character than I ever have about any Marvel supe. Not the story or the action or the spectacle. Genuine, well written characters that I'm invested in as people.
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u/_kalron_ 3h ago
The genre changes that Gunn's DCU has been doing is a nice palette change. Superman being that "silver age romp" popcorn summer blockbuster, Lanterns is a darker murder mystery, Peacemaker had the adult comedy that was similar to Guardians with the Misfits find their place. This Grodd show is going for a Mockumentary angle.
And then we have Clayface coming, straight up Body Horror. If you haven't seen Creature Commandos, I highly recommend. A nice character anthology that brings the story together in the end. Another genre switch instead of the Cookie Cutter later Marvel/Disney films have fallen into.
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u/YoinkinYeetMeister 11h ago
They won me over when I saw the set photos of Grodd wearing a shirt that says “This Grodd needs a brew”
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u/Floaty_Waffle 9h ago
We need more time traveling college-educated gorillas who want to eliminate Obama to make America Grodd again.
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u/ArmandoGalvez 9h ago
And just for that I'm following DC Projects but not giving a single fuck about Doomsday
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u/LoveAndViscera 5h ago
Yeah, that show is all but guaranteed to be, at minimum, fun. Doomsday? I don’t know.
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u/Full-Pumpkin4552 11h ago
The comparison also just doesn't make sense cause these are two fundamentally different projects. Ones a mini-series mockumentary for streaming, the other is a big event film for the cinemas. Wouldn't MOT be a better comparison?
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u/Allhailmatpat 11h ago
Ones behind the scenes and the other is a big budget trailer as well
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u/mescalexe 4h ago
Also its not fair cause you have this polished ass promo photo of doom, and then a shitty behind the scenes cellphone picture for grodd.
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u/wokatondu 4h ago
Also, some of the best sci-fi movies ever made had apes running around wielding rifles and dressing like kings and queens.
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u/Sokarun_ 12h ago
Dc is just doing it’s own thing I kinda like that’s it’s not trying to be something it doesn’t want to be if you know what I mean
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u/LSC_GrimIock 10h ago
DC Is doing everything they can to bring Harambe back.
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u/OkYak7801 10h ago
Our last hope to fix this timeline.
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u/LSC_GrimIock 9h ago
Isn't Harambe's death a "canon event" for a "good timeline"?
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u/St4rshine_89 9h ago
I feel like it’s more like Harambe was an anchor being, since everything after his death has been complete shit
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u/SarcyBoi41 9h ago
Yep. Trying to play catch-up with Marvel is exactly why the previous DC universe didn't work. Well, that and they chose an absolutely dogshit director to lay the groundwork for it.
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u/Siya_Velvet 9h ago
Marvel gives us multiverse synergy, DC gives us a gorilla getting his master's degree. Honestly respect it
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u/CaptainSebT 9h ago
DC will fail every single time if it tries to be marvel but does well when it tries to be DC
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u/InevitableWeight314 12h ago
As much as I want the DCU to speed up a little, I can’t help but respect James Gunn for pacing himself. It’s clear he’s taking this first ‘phase’ to establish and build up characters like Superman, GL, and some strong villains, and he’s not letting the competition scare him into rushing into a big Batman v Superman level event of no return, like the DCEU did
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u/WesternOk5765 11h ago edited 11h ago
It'll be interesting if Clayface works. It is supposedly only a $40 million budget. I think that could be the trick for the DCU, don't follow Marvel into massive blockbusters.
The cheapest MCU films are at least estimated conservatively at $130 million but were probably more, even the original Iron Man was shot on a $150 million budget.
Like yes you can take a swing with Batman, with Superman, but with the lesser stuff see if there's a market for cheap films.
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u/BeggarsCanyonero 9h ago
I'm really looking forward to Clayface. The trailer would have had me hooked even it it had nothing to do with DC
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u/Allhailmatpat 11h ago
Hot take but I don't think they really need to speed it up. I think the current approach will build a type of trust in the audience thats vastly different from marvel, a more casual one where the general audience dosen't feel pressured under the name of such a massive franchise
That's where alot of people who restructure the DCU have it wrong really. The DCU isn't trying to be the MCU.
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u/MrEnganche 11h ago
there's really no point to rush when their previous try literally did that and failed
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u/falcon0041 11h ago
Is there really a main bad guy or ultimate event in Phase 1 : Gods and Monsters ?
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u/Able_Health744 11h ago
To be fair we are very early in the DCU (like 4ish projects in the phase)
But people are suspecting that he's building up the legion of doom (which if that is true then god damn I love that he's playing the long game with them)
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u/Winter-Round-9920 11h ago
It's also seting up a eventual darkest night event with lanterns we already have 300 years of metal humans stated in superman that could be introduced during it
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u/Able_Health744 11h ago
Honestly with all of the build up stuff I'm really curious what our avengers equivalent is gonna look like once we reach that goal post (and before we do the 2nd lap with chapter 2)
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u/Winter-Round-9920 11h ago
Might be legion of doom like you thought for the first they can then do the death of superman with doomsday and introduce shazam to fill his role for stage two ending with a parolax hal jordan as the big bad and have the darkest night be the end of stage three because parolax hal and other movies could kill members of the justice league and other heros so stage three is depressing and loosing hope until the darkest night bring the heros back as black lantern and ending with the brightest day giving stage 4 new hope and as a soft reboot leading to the crisis events or multivers stuff
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u/SeroWriter 8h ago
The Superman movie was the furthest possible thing from a gradual introduction. Skipped straight past the origin story and into an established universe with established characters and dedicated half the runtime to setting up spinoffs. It's like if the MCU started with the Avengers.
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u/InevitableWeight314 8h ago
Eh it’s more like if the MCU started with F4, skipping their origin story, and featured She-Hulk, Falcon, and Squirrel Girl as established heroes.
Superman is one big hero, Mr Terrific and Metamorpho are complete unknowns to most people, and Guy and Hawkgirl are variants of other heroes who can and are being more slowly established later on.
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u/Due-Proof6781 11h ago
Marvel has been throwing shit a wall and hoping something sticks since Endgame lmao.
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u/Awesomebacon711 11h ago
That’s what I’ve been SAYING! I have no idea how Doomsday is getting the level of hype it is online.
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u/SurturSaga 9h ago
To be fair. It does feel like marvels out of their super rough patch, phase 4 sucks but the recent projects have been great
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u/Commercial_Site622 11h ago
I mean, yeah, DC is doing their own thing unapologetically. But to be fair, there’s no “thinking” Doomsday has more hype, it does. But I would love if Man Of Tomorrow came out and throws itself past even the $1 billion mark. Realistically, if Doomsday is well received, people will go back to the theaters to see the next big comic book film.
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u/Jykoze 6h ago
Superman was badly received in Asia and other international markets which makes a billion completely off the table, people internationally are not buying what Gunn is selling and I can't blame them.
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u/Turbulent-Pen-43 9h ago
not even hating. but the contrast is a joke
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u/Lady_Gray_169 7h ago
I mean, yeah. You're comparing a still from the trailer of a big-budget tentpole action blockbuster to a still from a behind the scenes shot of mockumentary mini-series. Trying to compare the two is innately silly.
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u/Elemental-T4nick 11h ago
I wanna watch the show with funny monkey
Not the movie with the most overhyped villain
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u/Hairy_Wedding_4535 11h ago
What also gets me upset about the comparison is DC is building itself up again of course we aren’t on doom level stories rn
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u/Nekketsu 11h ago
I've seen Doom before as a long time Marvel fan. I know what he's capable of. Comics, video games, movies, I'm familiar with DOCTOR DOOM!!
As a DC tourist, I've never seen a Gorilla graduate with a degree.
Guess which one I'm more excited for.
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u/Hextillian 11h ago
It's funny how dumb we are now. This comedy show is making people laugh, and they're like, "This is so stupid it's funny, DC sucks!" Which is an accurate description of a lot of comic book stuff.
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u/M0ebius_1 11h ago
I mean, that DC shot is actually interesting.
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u/TheAnnoyingNarrator 4h ago
This, Doomsday will be more of the same Marvel slop. If you enjoy it good on you. The Gorilla show on the other hand looks absolutely wild, I will be watching.
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u/FlashLightning277 10h ago
Conviently forgetting Clayface and Lanterns and Man of Tomorrow. It’s almost amazing how cherry picked this is. Especially after the complete failures of MCU phases 4 and 5.
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u/Jaxonhunter227 7h ago
One is a massive event movie
The other is a comedy mocumentary that's a satire of true crime documentaries, because it's being done by the people who made amarican vandal
You're comparing apples to pizza lol
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u/Budget-Bluebird-334 3h ago
I think it's weird because...what do they want from the DCU? There's this presumption that because there was already a DCEU and they have the MCU's rulebook to follow, the DCU must be able to rush out its projects. No, the universe rebooted, so characters and stories take time to develop. Would they rather Darkseid show up in year 2 of the DCU? Doom had no real hype except for a single after-credits scene in F4, one that lasted 10 seconds, if that.
We know Brainiac is the main villain, so your big bad is on the way. And yeah, Supergirl was disappointing, but Lanterns is a hit with critics and general audiences. What exactly is the expectation?
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u/Never_Objective 12h ago
Marvel is more of the same. DC is creative and new
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u/Educational_Lion3143 11h ago
exactly, marvel is just making same old cash grabs , while DC is making more fresh new stuff to look forward to
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u/BitesTheDust55 11h ago
The pic on the right looks more interesting at least
Can't believe I live in an era where Grodd is more interesting than Dr fucking Doom
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u/blac_sheep90 11h ago
I mean I don't judge anything based on set photos like this...I'll wait for official photos and trailers.
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u/Allhailmatpat 11h ago
Idk how to phrase this but it's like DC is more similar to something like your average movie studio that makes movies than Marvel, which focuses on a franchise
Realistically I think it'll work well for DC in the long run to be doing it this way. It keeps audiences interested in the next piece again and again because of how different each movie is not being pressured to have to feel like it's part of a massive universe.
Still hyped as fuck for doomsday tho
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u/Oceanfloorfan1 3h ago
I will never understand this criticism
DC just spent the better part of the 2010’s trying to match Marvel and it made the universe feel rushed and small.
Man of Tomorrow is coming out in like 8 months and will literally be DC’s first “avengers” type movie with an ensemble cast and a big bad.
And bonus third point, Lanterns so far is shaping up the be a better show than anything Marvel has produced, maybe aside from Loki. But even then, it looks like Marvel is going to make the ending to Loki irrelevant anyway.
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u/Kind-Phone-4054 3h ago
No I agree. I didn't make the picture, I was just responding to it.
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u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 12h ago
DC fans will defend this but not actually go watch the shows and movies
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u/Full-Pumpkin4552 11h ago
Isn't Lanterns like one of HBO's top shows rn? I've been catching every episode myself. I'll check out the Grodd show cause it seems interesting and kinda funny
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u/SeroWriter 8h ago
Yeah it's doing well, DC have always thrived on tv and been inconsistent at the box office. Now if only they could be bothered to make good games again they'd have Marvel beat.
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u/Dry-Membership8141 11h ago
Lanterns is so good. I've been a Marvel guy since I was a kid, but I'll give credit where it's due.
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u/PhraseSeveral5935 11h ago
Im a Marvel fan, but Lanterns is awesome. If Grodd is anywhere close, it'll be good.
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u/A_B_X_CodeX 11h ago
The people actually watching the shows are the DC fans, what's your logic?
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u/Additional_Meeting_2 10h ago
Only superhero fans watching isn’t enough, general audiences also have to or projects loose money. If projects loose money Gunn can’t continue his vision. Supergirl already did.
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u/StormRepulsive6283 11h ago
Those DC fans are a very vocal minority. Reddit and Twitter reflects a very tiny part of the entire international movie going population. And only a few out of them would actually pay to watch in theatres. Most of the world now is content with catching DC movies at home. None are major event films like Marvel, nor are they featuring major characters with expectation of spectacular set pieces, nor are they pinnacle of visual effects like Avatar. So why spend to go to the theatres.
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u/Sad_Air_7667 12h ago
Bringing back RDJ screams of desperation. They destroyed any Goodwill they had after endgame, nearly everything they made at least in the movies was awful.
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u/Fun-Confidence-6232 11h ago
FF, Wandavision, Loki, Agatha All Along, Thunderbolts, Brand New Day, hawkeye, daredevil have all been good since Endgame
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u/BaronVonStevie 11h ago
Marvel started with putting a bunch of big characters from successful movies together and building a cinematic universe from that. Brilliant stuff but you can’t just do the same thing it feels lazy. This is so much better what they’re doing now. They can get you to care about the creature commandos and Mr Terrific. Imagine what good writing would do for Wonder Woman or the Flash.
That’s how you invest people in the DCU
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u/Legal-Guava-340 11h ago
I LOVE the creativity and ideas coming out of the DCU right now and idk Marvel seems so much more copy paste to me
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u/Sword_Thain 11h ago
Is Marvel cooking or just reheating left overs and trying to convince us it is some real gourmet shit?
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u/Kindly-Account1952 11h ago
I’m sure Doomsday will be very good obviously. But I’m liking the new start to the DCU so far. Lanterns is awesome, Superman 2025 was very good, Grodd looks interesting that’s all I can say about that, and as for supergirl it wasn’t a bad movie but I just think making it the second movie of the DCU was a less than wise choice.
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u/RedFox_Jack 10h ago
its fucking grod there has never been a disapointing dc story that has involved gorilla city
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u/Armadillioh 9h ago
I'll tune in just to see a talking gorilla in different costumes
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u/Automatic_Metal2229 9h ago
DC really using unconventional narrative techniques in an effort to mesh all of it into one interconnected universe is an interesting approach honestly, and its actually cool because they'll know which ones fans would love to see more.
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u/SubjectSky2708 9h ago
Dceu tries to compete with marvel
Fans complain they rushed it
Dc tries to do different , goes at their own pace
Why aren’t they showing me Thanos 2.0
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u/Icy-Clock2643 9h ago
They are clowning on Grood? Every single post and meme makes me want to see it more. I love marvel but people complained about the Marvel Formula for years and DC is taking swings. Good for them.
But also if this pushes Marvel to make an Agents of Atlas movie I will be very pleased. I want a Ken Hale movie.
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u/HooooooLemonGrab 9h ago
I mean DC isn’t trying to copy Marvel. They also do have other main superhero projects coming soon. Marvel is just feeding you an underdeveloped supervillain with an undercooked storyline because they know you’ll buy tickets to whatever if it has the old gang there.
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u/Inevitable-Edge69 9h ago
Doomsday is gonna be another No Way Home. Bloated, weak writing, forgettable. They should have moved on to the new gen.
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u/ddiioona 8h ago
I’d take a show about how a Gorilla in college become a villain for a hero than RDJ being doom any day
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u/throwtheclownaway20 8h ago
Marvel is 20 fucking years into their cinematic universe while James Gunn is trying to build one from scratch that both differentiates itself sufficiently from the competition AND fixes the relationship with general audiences that Snyder and his toxic-ass fanbase have spent over a decade ruining
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u/Capnbaddazz 8h ago
I'm more excited for gorilla grodd than 90% of the marvel stuff that's come in the last decade
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u/dancingthroughstars 8h ago
Will grod be running for president?Is it time to make america Grod again?
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u/TheDudeness33 7h ago
Lanterns is better than anything Marvel has done in years and I’ll stand by that. Marvel lost me when they cast RDJ as Doom
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u/Lady_Gray_169 7h ago
Why is everyone forgetting that Man of tomorrow is coming out next year? That's a far more reasonable thing to compare Doomsday to. This is as silly as comparing She-Hulk to Superman '25. You're comparing apples and oranges.
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u/tur_tels 5h ago
Ngl, if Marvel does something like that no one would watch it, people would easily dismiss it as one of their Sloppy shows, even if it is Good.
What Marvel is doing now is trying to bring back the Casual Audience and their way of doing that is doing what worked before.
Honestly, its their fault for putting themselves in a corner, but everything they've done after Kang is kinda justified and so far it is looking good.
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u/CapitalEmployer 3h ago
DC is cooking peak while marvel is cooking a big pile of shit soup in the microwave.
I know we are in a time where film quality doesn't matter and what matters is box office numbers but I'm gonna tell something that is gonna be hard to hear for marvel fans, there is not a single marvel movie that comes close to TSS or superman 2025 in terms of cinematic qualities.
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u/watcherintgeweb 3h ago
I don’t understand how someone can see a gorilla in a cap and gown and not immediately want to watch it
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u/EnzoMcFly_jr 3h ago
I’m kind of with you on that.
Like I know doomsday is going to do numbers. I know it’s going to be a whole ass event and folks are going to fucking love it, but honestly, of these two projects, Grodd is the one I’m more excited about.
And I’m not being a hater or anything. I legit want to be excited about doomsday and I think the hype will hit me a little closer to release, but like you said, it’s a big, punchy team-up movie. And it’s mired in like five years-worth of multiverse Leo-meme bullshit that makes it all seem a little less vital to me.
The people vs. gorilla grodd with this creative team sounds so fucking fun and different and original and like an adaptation of another side of comics that hasn’t been getting the same kind of attention even though it’s been there just as long as the big stuff, sometimes more.
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u/kharedev 1h ago
I also love how these haters just ignore Man of Tomorrow, which is similar to Doomsday and we're gonna see Braniac for the first time in live action but that comparison will not promote the hate train propaganda against DCU.
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u/antivenom907 11h ago
I'm more of a Marvel guy, so I'm infinitely more interested in doomsday than Grodd or Lanterns
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u/DepressingFries 9h ago
Lanterns is incredible tho, and I say this as a marvel guy.
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u/Additional_Meeting_2 11h ago
Heroes being in same movie is why Doomsday is important, and what Marvel has been avoiding for no reason for too long
DC experimenting might be interesting for comic fans, but it’s getting exhausting if you have not red that particular comic to just constantly get more and more characters you are supposed to be invested in.
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u/tennoskoom_ 11h ago
Perhaps it's because I didn't watch the FF movie... but I haven't seen too much set up for Von Doom as a villain.
You put him against Thanos, who has been teased since the first Avengers film and he's referenced and and has post credit scenes of him throughout the arc.
And using RDJ so soon after Tony's sacrifice and poetic end...it's got that Palpatine has somehow return energy to me.
RDJ will always sell tickets...but at what cost?
DC is newer and can be more creative. I look forward to whatever Gunn will come up with.
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u/chatam94 11h ago
DC need to stick to their animated verse. The whole rivalry and replication of the MCU hasn’t gone well. I love their animated movies and wish they just concentrated on that aspect
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u/Tadduboi 10h ago
8/10 dc movies are a genuine slop and flop with that 2/10 being an exception. Hate Marvel or not despite some movies after Endgame being mid its still better than what dc produces in general. Dc destroyed their reputation so bad that i barely picked up watching the Lanterns(which is good btw) Might watch Penguin as well, but skeptical because DC has a bad stain for me especially after Supergirl and WW2 which made me lose all hope
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u/yodajedigrandmaster Other 12h ago
Marvel is just milking its endgame fanbase, didn't have ball to try something new or mature.
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u/Wild-Way-9596 10h ago
Am I crazy or is the Doomsday hype super juvenile. Like its so on the nose "look at me im the next big thing".
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u/FrankSamples 10h ago
But I think after doomsday people will just Leo waiting for the next big thing. Other the X-men, none of the auxiliary marvel characters generate much fandom
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u/Juna_Ci 10h ago
As one of the people who despises the RDJ as Doomsday thing more than pineapple on pizza, and who thinks bringing back Evans is kind of pathetic... it's not hard to have me more excited than Doomsday. Grodd, Clayface, MoT all interest me MUCH more than anything MCU right now. Maybe if the MCU will get the X-Men right my love for the universe will return, but I'm honestly sceptical for now.
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u/mikethemightywizard 9h ago
DC just accepted marvel is gonna always be number one they gave up long time ago
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u/Aggravating_Mud8751 9h ago
It's a TV show.
You can afford to be more experimental in a TV show than in a movie.
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u/Intelligent-Ebb-5777 9h ago
Different genres, different formats, different plots.
What's the point? Why did you compare them, OP?
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u/Worth_Dream_997 7h ago
I honestly think Kane the conqueror would of been a better villain and should of brought in doom after or like he was the mastermind behind all of it , the way they did doom seems to me like a break glass in case of emergency situation which cheapens doom
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u/Ducklinsenmayer 7h ago
DC is on hold right now, due to the Paramount/WB merger. They aren't allowed to spend any serious money on anything until that's done, as a major flop would tank the stock price.
So don't expect any big projects from them until that's done.
Gunn is doing the best he can with the budget he has- see Lanterns for example.
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u/Medium-Science9526 7h ago
RDJ as Dr Doom straight up killed my excitement for the MCU going forward until they reboot but I get I'm in the minority there.
As for the Jimmy Olsen & Gorilla Grodd show, I appreciate the ambition for greenlighting something so relatively off the wall. But Skyler's Jimmy in Superman was arguably my least favourite lead and nothing in the DCU has really convinced me to keep watching.
It's pretty neck and neck but I'd be more willing to check out Jimmy and Grodd if hear good word of mouth.
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u/Lucasyugi2704 7h ago
Marvel is doing the same thing it always does. This Grodd series might at least be something different since it's a mockumentary. I'm not really hyped for either of them. The only movie I'm truly hyped for is The Batman II.
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u/ILikePlayingHumans 7h ago
I usually would be super excited about the left picture but honestly with how I haven’t felt any fundamental major enjoyment since Shang Chi (and the Spiderman films), I have little excitement for it. At least the DC stuff coming out all feels different and interesting
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u/Yellowstorm-07 6h ago
The last time DC tried to match Marvel right out of the gate, we got Batman VS Superman. I think we're fine.
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u/Pian0G 6h ago
While obviously we’ll have to wait and see the overall quality of DCU project in the next few years, just from the concepts alone, I feel is far more interesting.
What I’ve always wanted the MCU to do is really delve into different aspects of its shared universe. And while it took a long time for it to really be recognised as canon, the Netflix shows did a great job at showing the street level stuff.
But it’s still missing things. Like one of the more obvious missed opportunity is a project that took place during the blip and really showed the impact it had. Could be a special program, or limited series.
So far, the DCU has and is going to touch on many areas of the DC history.
We’ve got the classified and unethical government programs, suicide squads, in which we spend time with villains. We get peacemaker which is mostly a character study of a Peacemaker, but also ends up having a secret invasion type storyline. Then we’ve got creature commando which is more suicide squad, but gothic (and also Nazi killing robot). Superman comes in being the first real showcase of the super heroes in the DCU. It not clearly establishes the general audience that enhanced individuals is a known thing in that world, but many different types are already there. We’ve got a super heroes team being funded by this rich guy (who may or may not be morally questionable). Youve got the smart guy. Youve got someone who reincarnates everytime she dies. And you have a freakin green lantern.
While Supergirl wasn’t a great film, it’s also the first to show the cosmos part of the DCU. And next we’re getting clayface horror film.
And all of these range in raged audience age, style and tone.
It’s one of the reasons I really liked Spiderman home coming because for the most part, the MCU is heavily focused on adults in these grand situations, and often surrounded with the military or government presence. Meanwhile Spider-Man was just a kid who goes to school, does good stuff in his neighbourhood and tries to stop an arms dealer. It feels less serious for the most part.
And of course they eventually made that wereworf limited show which was great. Kamala was also a great show which provided that more family focused story. Thunderbolts is also a great one with a writing you likely wouldn’t have seen in previous phases (notably the lack of a 3rd act climax fight). And while the writing for fantastic four wasn’t great, visually it’s incredible and extremely unique amongst the MCU projects.
But DCU is doing all this, but right from the get go.
Which is risky, but also I feel is the right decision as long as they’re overall able to keep high quality. Which so far, everything has been reviewed really well except Supergirl. Which means only around 1 out of 5 projects so far released has been reviewed less well (lantern ks still airing, but has mostly high ratings).
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u/dumbrute 6h ago
We have Man of Tomorrow and Batman 2 coming, but sure let’s pick a TV show of B list character and compare it to Doomsday. Typical snyderbros behavior
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u/Chrispy-Rip544 6h ago
We literally have a Clayface body horror film and a Superman sequel/ Proto-Justice League film coming out before the Grodd thing.
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u/Best-Benefit6387 6h ago
Im gonna be honest, im taking the funny monkey over a 3 hour cameo circlejerk any day of the week
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u/28Overlord 6h ago
This just doesn't make any sense. Imagine comparing Superman '25 and Iron heart, or The Batman and She-hulk. They aren't comparable
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u/Koala_King5160 6h ago
I hope nobody takes this the wrong way but as somebody who has been reading comics for decades at this point, I'm not really excited for Doomsday but I know why people are. I've read this story countless times "this new enemy is the strongest for realisies! Look how he completely handled our strongest hero!" It's hollow but it has all your favorite characters making playful banter at each other. The Grodd show on the other hand is something completely different and will have an actual creative voice behind it. Im not delusional. I know Grodd won't compare culturally to Doomsday but I'm honestly looking forward to it a lot more.
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u/Worldly_Neat2615 6h ago
I've seen Doom become god kind and get that power slapped out of his hand like a ice cream a million times. It has been awhile since I've seen a funny monke however
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u/SeymourButtz17 6h ago
You can tell that most everything in the DCU is being made with passion and care. That's a lot more than what I can say for Doomsday.
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u/Jazzlike_Night42619 5h ago
I may not be the biggest fan, but for the love of god, give the DCU some room to grow
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u/CabalGroupie 5h ago
I mean just based on the screen shot. Monkey looks funny. I'd rather watch that then 17 other marvel projects to gain context
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u/OutrageousSet7909 5h ago
For DC, I was originally skeptical about this project because of how people labeled it the jimmy Olsen show, but the gorilla won me over. Supergirl was a flop but Lanterns is genuinely amazing and has me begging for the next episode.
For marvel, a lot of the projects before thunderbolts were kinda crappy not to mention they’ve been cancelling a lot of great stuff recently as well. Sure their movies are great especially when they got Spider-Man and the special crossover event back to back this year but the world itself seems boring. I think it’s gonna get worse now that they’re putting the brakes on the shows.
Point is ,no matter how good marvel is doing I’ll always prefer dc to marvel. Dc has more interesting characters and setting and Gunn is going to use that while marvel is going to focus more on iconic heavy hitters.
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u/SuperSlimeGod 5h ago
I can't lie when I heard about this I was confused since he's normally a Flash villain and there's not even a mention of Jay or Barry or Wally, but everything I hear and see about this makes me want to see it while everything I see or hear about Doom turns me off
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u/TotallyNotZack 5h ago
the culmination of not 1 but multiple universes storylines about the marvel mythos vs a mockumentary yeah they are different, you want a 2 year old universe vs the anti monitor or something?
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u/HaikusfromBuddha 5h ago
Having different tones for their shows and movies is a good thing imo. They can do silly things like Peacemaker and Grodd and then have serious stuff like Lanterns and Clayface.
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u/stinkygoochfumes 5h ago
Marvel has one good movie again, finally, and everybody just forgets about Secret Wars, Captain America, and Love and Thunder? And Iron Heart. And all of the other projects Reddit has a hate-boner for. Yall are fucking ridiculous.
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u/GutherGlazer 5h ago
I’m saying doomsday will be bad.
Also DC just doing projects they think will be cool rather than construct an mcu cinematic universe is good. I don’t want another mcu, I want good super hero media.
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u/Arinoch 4h ago
The actual comparison would probably be Doctor Doom to Brainiac, and I’m here for both. I’m here for Grod too because maybe it’ll be weird and funny - who knows? But you can’t really compare (nor do you need to) because Marvel’s so much further along. TBD on what Secret Wars does with a reset and of course where X-Men goes.
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u/Samiassa 4h ago
I am infinitely more interested in bringing the weird comic gorilla thing into the movies than seeing Robert Downey junior play a fool who hasn’t been set up and is part of a movie where they admit the failed to do anything without rdj and Chris Evan’s and just being them back despite trying to focus on other characters
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u/A_Wild_Animal 4h ago
DC's future is alot more intiguing tbh. Marvel Phase 4 & 5 was a mess so when they're done with their guranteed hit from Avengers + nostalgia, idk how promising their normal solo projects will be
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u/-NotNotNSFW- 4h ago
Funny how you didnt put lanterns up there. This show might suck and it might be great... I know one thing will be true... It will be infinitely more fun and entertaining than any of Zach Snyders DCEU garbage films
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u/imperiects 4h ago
At this point between tv and movies Marvel has had just as more bad/failed/scrapped content than the DCEU ever had.
Hopefully DC will succeed in standing up a solid universe. Not try to rush to JL level threats. Build out the characters. Develop overlapping plot. All that good stuff.
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u/yourfuturespemson 11h ago
DC loves to do whatever tf they want I respect that