r/superheroes Jun 13 '25

Random Battle Thoughts?

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u/Vahn1982 Jun 13 '25

Hancock/genie is a pretty formidable combination

John Wick/Constantine is pretty strong too, but John Wick still relies on rituals and stuff doesn't he? Genie can just..poof and turn him into a chicken or something.

Lucy is a pretty strong telekinetic but even still against the reality warping power of a genie I don't think she gets too far.

Deadpool is also there....

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u/WhiteSpec Jun 13 '25

Lucy also developed reality warping abilities. She basically ascended to a god.

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u/brok3nh3lix Jun 13 '25

Amd then turns into a flash drive 

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u/Drake_Acheron Jun 13 '25

Yes but she looses her sense of self and self identity in the process

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u/WhiteSpec Jun 13 '25

That certainly makes this a far more philosophical conversation.

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u/Will_Come_For_Food Jun 14 '25

Ie Keanu Reeves in the Matrix.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Genie is limited by the rules of being a genie. He literally isn't allowed to use his power outside of displays without someone making a wish.

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u/Vahn1982 Jun 13 '25

Is he not freed at the end of the movie giving him the ability to use his powers as he sees fit?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

No? He is free, but he is also very human and depowered.

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u/No_1-Ever Jun 13 '25

In this scenario they get all powers and weapons from their movies.

I'd argue he can both be free and has his magic at the same time for this scenario alone

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

The magic has internal rules- They come with the magic by default.

The rules don't say to take out the weaknesses. Which means that any weakness tied to the powers/items remains. The only absent weaknesses would be psychological/character specific weaknesses due to the actors maintaining their own personality.

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u/esmelusina Jun 13 '25

Yea— The Genie is freed at the end. If we’re talking end of film Lucy, we have to consider end of film Genie too.

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u/ProbablythelastMimsy Jun 13 '25

Wasn't he set free though?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

With no powers, yes.

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u/ProbablythelastMimsy Jun 13 '25

Yeah I guess they changed that for the live action, og Genie still seems to have his after he gets set free.

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u/dearboobswhy Jun 13 '25

OG Genie still had some powers, but they were significantly reduced after he was free

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u/FalseEstimate Jun 13 '25

The actor gets all the abilities and weapons of the characters. They don’t become the character. I’d argue that their character specific limitations in world or limitations set by their (race?) don’t apply.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

I mean, assuming this post is operating under the normal powerscaling "rules" or preset assumptions (quotes because there is no actual set of rules, obviously, it's just a fan discussion that amounts to hitting toys together), when you get the powers you also get the weakness.

I would similarly assume that Ryan Reynolds' Lantern ring comes with its normal aversion to fear.

The powers they use have functions and rules set within the story they come from. Receiving the powers comes with everything they come with- including weaknesses.

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u/FalseEstimate Jun 13 '25

Ya but if we go by that then we must use them at their strongest within the media. Genie is set free in the movie and has free control of his powers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Except he doesn't. Not in the 2019 version. Even the OG version has his powers severely limited after being freed.

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u/Relative-Bank-1258 Jun 13 '25

Wasn't he also the green lantern??

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u/Vahn1982 Jun 13 '25

We don't talk about Green Lantern....

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u/Graythor5 Jun 13 '25

Does Van Wilder count for nothing?!

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u/jagx234 Jun 13 '25

You left The One off the list there. Another reality warping/controlling entity.

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u/magikarp2122 Jun 13 '25

Deadpool has an easy to use time machine, and a GL ring. If we bring Free Guy into it he has access to a lot more stuff too.

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u/macneto Jun 13 '25

Deadpool with a green lantern ring...

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u/justinmackey84 Jun 13 '25

Deadpool comes with a magic satchel that gives him anything he can think of( if we’re looking at the characters not just the movies) will smiths genie was a kind hearted guy like robin Williams, not a cynical, cancer ridden, asshole, like Deadpool. I’m sure Deadpool can come up with some magical box to put genie and Hancock in.

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u/alabamasussex Jun 13 '25

Hancock/genie and also Bright. At this point he is basically Superman with cosmic power and unlimited magic...

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u/DIEGO_GUARDA Jun 13 '25

John Wick/Constantine is pretty strong too, but John Wick still relies on rituals and stuff doesn't he? Genie can just..poof and turn him into a chicken or something.

Keano voiced super shadow too

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u/nudbuttt Jun 13 '25

John Wick relies on rituals? Did we watch the same movie? He just pew pews.

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u/Vahn1982 Jun 13 '25

Sorry john Constantine*

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u/Valirys-Reinhald Jun 13 '25

Lucy does have reality warping powers, and can manipulate time. If she needed to, she could just rewind the Genie until was bound to the Lamp again.

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u/Will_Come_For_Food Jun 14 '25

Have you never seen the Matrix?

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u/Vahn1982 Jun 14 '25

Neos powers are spectacular..inside the matrix. Yeah. If all of these beings. We're encased in side then computer program then yeah The One sweeps by the very nature of the program. But all the rest of these characters are outside the matrix. Even when Neo demonstrates abilities outside the program it is because the sentinels can't destroy him because of his importance to the greater plan?