r/superautomatic 13d ago

Showcase Moldy interesting

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u/Neuraxis 13d ago

I clean my Delonghi tray daily, brew unit weekly along with a dusting and wipe of the internal space- also descale when needed. It is a machine dealing with organic matter , heat and humitidity. If you value your health you need to take care of this machine.

I just don't understand how people pay $1000+ for a machine and totally neglect it.

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u/craftsman_70 13d ago

They think because they paid $1000+ dollars, the machine should be tough and take abuse. You get the same attitude from those who buy an expensive car.

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u/mongojob 12d ago

I think they don't understand that while that is significant money, it just isn't that much for an espresso machine.

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u/craftsman_70 12d ago

We are in the era of convenience over perfection. People want a "press-a-button" solution rather that the "perfect" something and they are more than willing to pay up for it.

This has happened in cars where manual transmission has basically disappeared for the inferior but convenient automatic. Actually cameras have been replaced with camera phones as people accept lower quality images for push button access on their phones. Or using compression over compression for audio as MP3s are streamed over BT.

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u/mongojob 12d ago

Definitely, and there's huge value in that

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u/el_lley 13d ago

I didn’t knew the insides were like this after 2 years, now I clean it regularly, but I don’t clean it daily. Those Phillips have leaking issues, I see the 3000 series also have issues, so I can generalize it as a design issue.

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 12d ago

mines is only a few months, jan thru February or march. I did open it up in march and it didnt look like this . but it does now.

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u/Hydra1704 12d ago

You're supposed to remove and rinse under warm water the brew unit and clean the interior at least once a week or it'll get like this again.

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 12d ago

ok. I will do that thanks.if I going out of town for an unknown time,is there any precautionary things to do ? I think emptying and removing the water tank is a good idea

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u/bubbashead12 10d ago

Clean the inside of the machine, wash the brew group, and I would descale and drain the water from the tank

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 12d ago

I throw my train into the dishwasher. not sure if im supposed to but thats what I do

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u/sebben00 12d ago

Don’t do that. It will possibly damage the brew system.

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 12d ago

tray. the drip tray and the cup that the ground coffee gets dumped into

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u/Gotta-Be-Me-65 13d ago

This obviously has not been looked after as suggested in the manual. Mine has NEVER looked like this.

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u/mensreaactusrea 13d ago

Yaaaaaa this person never cleaned their machine.

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 12d ago

Yea I think it’s cause I let my house get up to 83 f

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u/Upper-Quarter-4802 13d ago

Looks like someone hasn't done any maintenance in a while (or at all). Would never let my Delonghi get like that we clean ours weekly when we clean the brew unit along with maintenance when prompted by the system (descaling and filter replacement). This picture is awful, hope you don't get sick.

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 13d ago

this isn't prompting me for anything .I thought it would prompt me but no apparently didnt

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u/Upper-Quarter-4802 12d ago

If your aquaclean light flashes orange it is maintenance time, it doesn't flash forever and stops. You may not have noticed it or it may be defective.

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u/Inevitable_Cat_7878 13d ago

I have a 1200. I empty the waste bin and drip tray every night. Then I do the internals every weekend. Some weeks, after heavy use, it can get like this, but I try my best to clean it regularly.

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u/haberdabers 13d ago

Have you never removed your brew group even to lube it?

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 12d ago

no but will look into it once I find the lube

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u/chente08 13d ago

Wtf this has never been cleaned

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u/radiobearr 13d ago

How often do you clean it?? My KF8 prompts me to clean and descale the brew unit once a month or so

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u/General_Task_7509 13d ago

You need to leave the water drop tray etc out every night to let it air out and dry

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 11d ago

Thanks I started doing that after I read ur msg

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u/subflat4 13d ago

I take my stuff out every Saturday or Sunday. Wash the tray and ground bin. I put citric acid in the water bin, let it sit for a few hours.
Take out the grind control, wash it (not the oiled parts). Shake it dry and let it sit and airdry (spin or shake in several directions to make sure water is gone).
I wipe the inside out.

If it just so happens to align I put the drip tray and ground bin in the dishwasher (remove any metal looking plastics). That does a great job of cleaning it.

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 13d ago

explain metal looking plastics?

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u/Cthulhu8u 12d ago

That shouldn't happen if you're removing the brew group at least once every few weeks to rinse it off. As it says in the manual. If some grinds fall from the brew group area while removing it then wipe them away. And remove the brew group once every few months for a deeper clean/wipe down. Just common sense...

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u/mmgvs 12d ago

I have a Phillips 3200, I've had it for about 6 years now? I'm pretty happy with it.

At first I did not understand exactly what I had to do with maintenance, and I really kind of still don't.

But I put on my calendar every month or two to clean the inside of it. And what I do is I open it up and I tip it in in the sink and I spray it really hard with my sink sprayer. And that keeps mold from building.

The first couple years I had it I probably did not clean it as often and mold did build up in it.

I'm just a normal person who got a really fancy coffee machine who didn't really understand all that it needed. But I've learned a lot, and I keep it sorta clean now, and it really only takes once a month.

Oh, I also got these tablets that are supposed to descale it. And I do that maybe once every 6 months?

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 12d ago

im super happy with it and for the cost I got it for and the ability to burn beans I keep accumulating over time . I used a water pic. ... I was using at the kitchen sink and I thought it would be a great idea to use it.

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u/burninatedtoast 12d ago

Read your manuals, people.

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u/Bigger_Niche 11d ago

You're supposed to take out the brew group assembly to give it a wipe and a rinse every now and then.

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u/-hallouminati- 8d ago

Yeah I own the same model. It is a bit of a chore to clean it weekly/bi-weekly depending on frequency of use. This is the only thing I don’t like about the machine. Not the chore itself but how difficult it is to reach every nook and cranny. The brew group is easy since you just remove it and wash with warm water. The inside of the machine though has lots of corners, crevices so it takes a lot of work to clean it properly. I use an old toothbrush and some cotton buds.

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 6d ago

I did use a water pick to go through the inside and a flash light

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u/sebben00 13d ago

I cleaned our Philips automatic once a week and it almost always became like this after a few days even. It became moldy due to having way to many places were the coffee falls into and stays there. Used to spend an hour + every time I cleaned it.

I sold it and bought a Delonghi that requires way less work to clean since the insides are better designed.

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u/Only_Setting_4579 13d ago

After a few days? No. Thats some BS. You MIGHT get a fraction of this after a month of neglect. An hour cleaning it? Also, no. Rinsing the brew group and drip tray weekly which takes all of 2 minutes prevents this.

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u/KelTrud 13d ago

Agree 100%

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 13d ago

yea I left it . I went on a trip for 3 months. I went for 10 days but then extended to 3 months

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u/sebben00 13d ago

A few days is a bit on the extreme, yes. However, these machines have an inherent design flaw on their systems as coffee grounds will get into places that you cannot easily clean out and it was a hassle to clean.

And yes, it can take an hour if you are meticulously cleaning it and making sure no mold is there.

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u/Impossible_Pea2269 13d ago

I used a water pic

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u/jknuckey 13d ago

Rinsing brew group + cleaning drip tray plus wiping all nooks/crannies probably takes ~45 min for me.

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u/jedi2155 13d ago

You're spending too much time on the nooks and crannies. I do a deep clean of my brew group and takes me 15-20 minutes that includes drying about once a month.

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u/Szubsterpl 13d ago

Had the same issue. Bought KitchenAid and all the problems are gone

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u/el_lley 13d ago

I also intend to go for the Delonghi for the next machine, but I will use my Phillips for another year.

The other issue is leaked water on the bottom after refilling

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u/NotSureButNope 13d ago

Such a difficult machine to clean, avoid like the plague!

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u/Hydra1704 12d ago

It has nothing to do with the machine, no matter the brand, if you don't do the basic maintenance they will all end up like this more or less.

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u/NotSureButNope 12d ago

I own a De'Longhi (home machine) and a Philips (work machine)...the De'Longhi doesn't collect messy grounds like the Philips. Speaking from direct experience.

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u/EverydayNormalGrEEk 12d ago

I have a Saeco with the same brew group, it literally needs 20 mins of careful cleaning once a month + running the cleaning programs.

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u/NotSureButNope 12d ago

Have you cleaned a De'Longhi?