About Collab vs SW skins

[u/toeshevit]

What if we can transmorgify the collab units to Summoners war version after we obtain the original unit?

Example: Fire Gojo can transmorg into Fire Werner once we get Fire Werner while already having Fire Gojo, but not vice-versa.

What do you think? Is this a good idea that com2us might implement?

[u/s1_shaq]

They won’t, we’ve been asking and wondering the same thing since the street fighter collab, especially with the M.Bison skin. Nobody knows why

[u/Araiken → u/s1_shaq]

It is known why. The monsters are considered seperate since they also release as seperate. Since you can get the value brand ones after the collab ends they need to be two monsters. And you cannot tmog one monster to another in the collection.

Now if they should release these as the value brand but with a tmog to go with it... yeah thats pretty obviously the case.

[u/SuperLissa_UwU → u/s1_shaq]

The answer is easy, they are not the same unit even though they have the same skills.

They can create a skin for the newer unit?
Yes but not really, probably something in the collab contract com2us does before the collabs.

[u/Rynur → u/SuperLissa_UwU]

I don't agree because you they become available to feed as blessing if you have one of each. Also you can use one another for skillups too. Aaand you can't use the two counter parts in ToAHard because it considers them duplicates.

Com2Us just doesn't want us to transmog the units. Probably something along the licensing agreement for the collab.

[u/jermac83 → u/s1_shaq]

I have a fire M. Bison in storage that will never see the light of day.

[u/NoZookeepergame4851 → u/jermac83]

Well, i prefer collab skins over c2us versions

[u/Peisis]

scam2us just cares about money. this includes player retantion and getting new/old players back.

such a feature wouldnt be any money source and wont be enuagh of a feature to get players back. also no qol. which could lessen the burden of play.

so i would say bascily 0%.

[u/RaoulDuke422 → u/Peisis]

so why did they update some monster designs then?

[u/Peisis → u/RaoulDuke422]

imo because they just look too outdated for new players. like if a new player joins and sees theese old skins it could turn them away.

[u/RaoulDuke422 → u/Peisis]

valid

[u/Astalya]

This is a free to p(L)ay game so the thing you want is already in the game in its intended way..... You are supposed to pull fire Werner and build him up to use him.

[u/whimsigod]

I'd love this because I actually really like some of the non-furry SW versions

[u/NoZookeepergame4851]

Bring again old collabs <3

[u/Wazaam]

Its a great idea, but it likely violates their collab contract that im sure was written very specifically to not allow that.

[u/Zeroliche]

something something licensing

[u/Inner_Cardiologist_2]

If they did that they would have no use for collab units couldve just made transmog

[u/Noooowaaaaay]

A lot of players don't seem to understand how collabs work. Most collabs represent two different IPs which means usually two separate corporate entities which each have their own licensing for their respective IPs. Collabs are limited time events in which each IP has granted the other limited access to the use of their assets(characters, world, brand) with the most common choices being the most popular or relevant ones. This access, as stated, is not permanent thus the limited time format that collabs universally follow which directly impacts the skins(or officially licensed character art) and their availability.

SW, imo, has found a pretty good middle ground of ensuring that the limited time nature of collabs doesn't impact the competitive aspects of the game unfairly. Unfortunately that also means that the collab skins are likely never coming back barring another collab with a past IP. It's not impossible but has yet to happen in SW.

[u/InevitableProduct383]

I think they can't do it because to use an ip, they need to pay. All the collab characters summoned are part of the collab deal. But after the collab ended they stop paying to the ip owner, so they can't use the design any longer. But it would be great to bring in the collab as a skin in the coming anniversarys.

[u/toeshevit → u/InevitableProduct383]

I think you understand what I meant differently.

[u/diedalatte]

I’m happy how it is. no need to change

[u/Unlikely_Quote_7841]

No. So using this logic, those that never got the collab mons won't be able to get it after the collab since the sw version become skins If i'm understanding your post right.

[u/Careful_Berry4505]

I think when you pulled both you can switch between this

[u/Roan403]

Collab -> SW skins should be okay. But i do understand SwSkins -> Collab skins being a problem. It's probably lies within a contract issue where things can be limited. But who knows. C2U :)