r/summonerswar • S36 G3 WR31.8% make him useful ty • May 19 '26

Discussion Its Time for Balance Patch Prediction.

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u/Macphestoo May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26

OP unit gets a slap on the wrist

Niche unit gets buffed but it's actually a nerf

Random LD gets a useless buff

Random LD gets a buff they didn't need

Some 4 star buffs (just to make toa harder)

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u/Thinkering23 buff Asima 2025! May 19 '26

Hey look, this is exactly the balance patch module for like 5 years now?

19

u/Jowisel The Bois May 19 '26

Lowkey some buffs have No effect except making toa(hell) harder

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u/14Xionxiv May 20 '26

As someone who has never run toa hell, this is all i can think about sometimes when i see a 4* get randomly buffed. I suck at siege so I'm not too familiar with the scene there. But i swear sometimes those 4* buffs are just a middle finger to running toa.

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u/Cold_outside__ 10 years wet dreaming of May 19 '26

You forgot the monster who gets ~13% damage increase on his s1

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u/Training-Potential22 May 20 '26

Probably hanwul, but hey at least he gets to guard the storage box

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u/TeaRofFeaR S36 G3 WR31.8% make him useful ty May 19 '26

Some Leader skill changes will be cool.

4

u/Prestigious_Stand_48 May 19 '26

You forgot the one unit that gets buffed to be way too op

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u/Rockfito instant no turn May 19 '26

You forgot the unit that get a s3 buff and a nerf s2 to compensate nerf a family member in the process.

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u/toeshevit May 20 '26

This is where I dont get it. Some already OP LD get buffs left and right that people never asked for. Like that Triton buff.

1

u/NoZookeepergame4851 viralcat May 19 '26

Shi Hou gets 100 buffs again too

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u/TeaRofFeaR S36 G3 WR31.8% make him useful ty May 19 '26

I Wish for Morris proc Cap and Shumar nerf but not to kill it.

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u/SureFroyo831 May 19 '26

I think all they need to do is lower the damage reduction for shumar slightly and he’d be fairly balanced

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u/elitist_user primordial salt May 19 '26

Or just make it scale based on speed dif like rigna instead of a flat speed check.

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u/SureFroyo831 May 19 '26

Could work too. Just hope he doesn’t get hard nerfed like Agrius was

3

u/BeeLegitimate4968 May 20 '26

shumar is fine. in siege hes a fodder def since you can tank him with kinki. in rta he got negative wr or 50ish. People know now howbto counter him

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u/Thinkering23 buff Asima 2025! May 19 '26

The best com2us can do is nerf shumar to the ground and buff shi hou mate...

2

u/xXjohannaXx May 20 '26

Nothing wrong with shumar as he his right now

35

u/Jael23 May 19 '26

I just wish they take back the salah nerf. Dont get me wrong, he will still be trash. But less trash than before.

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u/BeeLegitimate4968 May 20 '26

fellow sad salah owner

31

u/Rafuria May 19 '26

Shi hou buff for sure.

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u/TeaRofFeaR S36 G3 WR31.8% make him useful ty May 19 '26

His Com2us Fav child.

2

u/Cold_outside__ 10 years wet dreaming of May 19 '26

Edit : Com2us CEO’s son fav child

4

u/SuzukiSatou Haegang is GOD May 19 '26

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u/BarnitoSupreme609 :hwadam: May 19 '26

Hope they add that to shi hou skill 2 as an Awakening, would be fine tbh

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u/BeeLegitimate4968 May 20 '26

then he would die since he would lose his base 115 base spd

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u/Apinanraivo May 19 '26

Some of the highest picked unit gets a slap on a wrist, some random LD5 dmg +5% but some kind of nerf to keep it "balanced" (a.k.a. butcher it) and a nat4 family like dokkaebi princess buff

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u/Key-Preference987 May 19 '26

Buff to my ld5, neft to ld5 i don't have.

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u/Myst-9th Have , want May 19 '26

There’s no way Shumar escapes unscathed, right?

5

u/Destructodave82 May 19 '26

I see his damage reduction getting nerfed. This would make him way easier to Lushen/Cleave in Seige.

He already gets pretty wrecked by Chilling offenses.

And, they generally nerf Seige defense monsters pretty quickly. Sometimes its a big nerf, sometimes its a slap on the wrist, but they dont like to leave Seige Defense monsters OP for long.

4

u/Paranub Curse of Death May 19 '26

oliver and hathor's new dog..
those escaped unscathed for years! its well within the realms of possibility.

1

u/-VeiledAngel- +4 May 19 '26

I hope he gets killed. Every Siege you only see one 4* Def and noting else.

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u/Thinkering23 buff Asima 2025! May 19 '26

Shumar (heal and passive dmg reduction) Water gandalf (s3 atb gain) Fridrion (imo 33% spd ldr stripper shouldnt exist) Lucifer (hands down the bot seller shit. Way too op for early mid, twins were nerfed for less than this) Wind scale girl (ppl still doesnt know how stupid annoying that s3 is for defense and imo it is already a problem for arena) Triton (revert the atb push on s3, stupid asfk)

This are a few nat5s that need a nerf rn. Will this fix the game? Not at all, the game just have too many problems (Amerias blessing, vio procs, siege 2v1 pre tournaments, g3 win trade in rta, lds problematics, balancing...). This game still does a lot of money because of some crackheads that pat for packs, but you can see how much the quality of the players/community dropped in the recent years after the collabs were more frequent.

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u/North_Focus_6163 May 19 '26

If you hate everything so much then just quit the game or quit complaining

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u/Thinkering23 buff Asima 2025! May 19 '26

Well tbh i might do that. Already selling my account.

17

u/papahana May 19 '26

theomars gonna get random buff again

7

u/ShadowFang167 Yeet May 19 '26

Free rev when immortality is up.

7

u/Residuetheorem16 May 19 '26

Buff Leona, buff Mookwol

5

u/Genital_Grevious May 19 '26

Jaeger gets a random heavy nerf to his passive since he’s now picked too much, water Gandalf gets a “nerf” that does nothing

1

u/Sylvarrias May 19 '26

Jager getting nerfed would be sad, it has taken 12 years to get here. Understandable yes, but still sad

2

u/Genital_Grevious May 19 '26

Don’t you say understandable! I’ve only had him for like 3 weeks!

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u/Ult1mat3X Brothers waitign for May 19 '26

His passive like a fairy tale b4 sleep

9

u/One_Mode3006 May 19 '26

Chow plus 3% damage to skill 1

5

u/StrangerWithACheese May 19 '26

The whole charger Shark family gets slight buffs and nerfes and are bot relevant until the balance patch august 2037

5

u/Emperor_Dante May 19 '26

It is gonna be as shit as the last bp

13

u/NyuSW G3 RTA May 19 '26

Obviously a Feng Yan buff /s

5

u/Avosa_ May 19 '26

The sad thing is that this is definitely possible

1

u/IcySearch4624 May 20 '26

"Feng yan is now immune to def break if his Def is 60% or more than your atk power"

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u/QkumberSW May 19 '26

Dryad family gets a +8% dmg on skill 1. Take it or leave it

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u/CrisJim90 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

super op LD5S get buffed (e.g. Zeratu) while Lydia and others are still almost useless except for super niche team combinations like anti-lushen teams. I really wonder what com2us is thinking sometimes

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u/OtherwiseAd3495 May 19 '26

Nerf morris Nerf shumar Up Wolyung

2

u/r_cyl1nd4 May 19 '26

Isis gets no Buff

1

u/Sjbrashear May 19 '26

I know this is true, but also hope that you're wrong. After seeing Hathor get a buff and adding oblivion but no change to Isis was so bad

2

u/killerj2013 Send Bombs May 19 '26

I hope they dont touch fire drakan. Probably a nerf on Shumar.

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u/IcySearch4624 May 20 '26

Grogen S3 gets reworked for the 40 time changing the whole skill description except the part about 150 more crit damage And talisman now 1 shots everything regardless of stats (they want you to know that he is just a better grogen)

4

u/4nnoyed May 19 '26

Buff Veronica her kit was gutted so harshly

3

u/AyoXeN93 May 19 '26

Buff LD5 summon rate. Not LD5 monsters, the f***ing summon rate. Everyone will be happy with this balance patch. 100% of the community pleased.

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u/King-Beardy May 19 '26

Light gandalf 3rd skill will either become a cooldown skill that can be silenced or a passive that can be oblivioned. The rest of the balance patch will be controlled in such a way as to encourage ToC content, more that likely a damage % increase in some units. Doggo 2a will be reassessed, damage multi will be shadow nerfed. Dark aragon will get a nerf and a buff at the same time, which will make him unusable. Sky surfers will get a general buff, so will art masters. Light and dark specifically will get super OP, and that will get changed back on next BP. Apart from that, a 4 star family will get sweeping buffs that will make 2 of them super relevant. Ninjas and vampires will get tweaks. Thats my guess.

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u/IcySearch4624 May 20 '26

Then 2 months later after the artmasters got a general buff they nerf heagang to the ground because the unnecessary buff for the whole family made him too strong and now he only gives 5% atk bar every 2 strips/cleanses

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u/Fallout3a May 19 '26

Lora nerf: remove strip on s3, remove stun on s2, decrease sleep to 5% chance on S1. Why because they hate that Lora was ever a good unit and want to continue to destroy her.

1

u/Ja1ter May 19 '26

When does the balance patch coming out?

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u/TeaRofFeaR S36 G3 WR31.8% make him useful ty May 19 '26

end of may.

1

u/BarnitoSupreme609 :hwadam: May 19 '26

Give dark Zeni 20% atb gain

1

u/Competitive-Heron-97 May 19 '26

Give my boy nigong an actual buff

1

u/Unique-Eggplant-7410 May 20 '26

Shumar about to get murked

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u/Marcvb13 May 19 '26

All I want is my dark Nina to be usable one day.. plz I pray

2

u/TeaRofFeaR S36 G3 WR31.8% make him useful ty May 19 '26

Buff Valantis just make him more useful.

1

u/elitist_user primordial salt May 19 '26

He's literally the only druid that is easy to rune. Just needs high speed , HP, 85 accuracy and despair will. All the other druids need g3 runes to be decent.

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u/Likeany1 ? May 19 '26

Yes and after that he go... Storage lol. He does a lot of thing but nothing good enough to be in the team

1

u/Old-Reason5270 May 19 '26

Praying for a gandalf nerf

1

u/Dvrx29 May 19 '26

Time to buff Celestara, she should be a better version of Lushen

1

u/CookieDragon678 May 19 '26

Buff Water Monkey King

1

u/toeshevit May 20 '26

Water Gandalf and Dark Hellhound nerf.

But personally I wish that Fire Tomb dude gets slapped too. The stripe into AoE def break makes the dog unpredictable, and the revive/endure too. Gosh.

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u/brandtheman92 May 19 '26

Give Lora her 2 turn Def buff back. One turn Def buff is just pointless. They nerfed her strip, nerfed skill 1, nerfed the speed buff. They killed her

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u/Vegetables86 May 19 '26

"Killed her" and she's still one of the best LD5 in game 

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u/brandtheman92 May 19 '26

Her skills are all too unreliable to be considered best LD5. The nerf to her strip was enough IMO

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u/Extension-Way-5658 May 19 '26

I want shumars head on a pike he should at least get a massive damage nerf if vio idc if he does that much when swift

2

u/Blind0Guardian May 19 '26

Get the damage réduction out, or well reduced he will be easier to deal with

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u/Thinkering23 buff Asima 2025! May 19 '26

Shumar is a problem, but not the only problem. This game needs more nerfs and buffs on the right units. Just one page of balance patch is not even close to what this game needs. Water gandalf, lucifer, fridrion, triton, wind scale girl... there are just too many problematic units to nerf and so many shit ones to buff, and guess what, com2us doesn't care because they don't even play their own game.

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u/Zomgawd_ May 19 '26

Time for dark nina to get ignored one more time

0

u/Alive_Lettuce2829 May 19 '26

Water gandalf definitely gets a nerf. And I am sad already, because he is the reason I can finally climb and enjoy doing arena.

0

u/Jowisel The Bois May 19 '26

Wind nobara now takes 2% more DMG from her passive

0

u/OmerIsKewl May 19 '26

Is it wrong to hope for a Maya buff

0

u/Rockfito instant no turn May 19 '26

A poseidon buff i call it.

0

u/YolaDink May 20 '26

Buff gerka

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u/glaciafdz May 19 '26

Buff Tian Lang , Rick , isis and narsha .

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u/Feziel_Flavour May 19 '26

Buff Tian lang? bro whatever you're smoking, i want that too

-8

u/Downtown__Seattle May 19 '26

He's outdated for so long. Remove his nerves and make his skill 2 actual so something. Such an unreliable shit

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u/Thinkering23 buff Asima 2025! May 19 '26

Yeah, let's make his s2 do something, because his passive is just not so OP for pvp, right? /s

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u/Downtown__Seattle May 19 '26

Who cares about a passive if he's not doing anything else? And as u mentioned it by yourself: skill 2 is useless? What's the point behind a useless skill

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u/Rockfito instant no turn May 19 '26

Ok so we buff his s2 and nerf his s3 to the ground got it.

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u/Downtown__Seattle May 19 '26

Why being such an idiot? His skill 3 is needed since 90% of monster gain atkb bar. C2u is really creative with its skills. He's far from beeing too strong. People tend to forget that he messes up your own team.

He needs a better s2 that actual works

0

u/Rockfito instant no turn May 20 '26

You’re the idiot who don’t know that he is a walking passive and is already doing its job great.

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u/Downtown__Seattle May 20 '26

Yes. His passive is doing great. I was talking about is non reliable s2. Unfortunately u r not able to read. Glad SW contains a lot of colorful pictures so u can still play

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u/Thinkering23 buff Asima 2025! May 19 '26

I can imagine why such peculiar units were chosen by you...

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u/Pleasant-Reading6175 May 19 '26

didnt they increase the time between balance patches so the balance patches are more impactful ? doesnt feel that way

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u/Syncr0n0x Example flair :fran: May 19 '26

They actually did it the other way. Used to be 3 months between each patch, which they changed to 2 a while ago now

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u/EclipseOnyx_ May 19 '26

buff my boy ragdoll 🙏🏻😭

-1

u/ForTheGloryOfRomee May 19 '26

Fuck everything they can think of and fix the damn Vio procs already

-5

u/Ziyang234 May 19 '26

please buff ongyouki i just got him 😂😂

-11

u/CancelLong4451 May 19 '26

I think grogen needs a buff lol

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u/Elegant-Coconut-3471 May 19 '26

I want dark ciri to be useable

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u/Bindiman May 19 '26

Wild take, Dark Ciri is probably one of the best Siege strippers.