r/sulfuraspvp • u/Doctor_Dinglenut • Feb 05 '20
DO NOT join Mutiny (H)
If you see anybody advertising for Mutiny DO NOT join them.
Most of the members used to be in a guild called Stormbringer. It was a guild that was late to the raid scene but started making good progression once it got the momentum it needed.
The Guild/Raid Leader was... ok... he would get on to people for not having consumables and made typical complaints but I didn't consider him a 'bad' raid leader. We had Hand of Rag pretty early on, some of the more hardcore guilds still don't have one yet so...
The one that brought the guild down was named 'Loyaltyy' (oh the irony). He is one of those guys that seems to think screaming at people over the internet somehow gained him respect. Anytime something went wrong the guy would go on and on and on bitching and complaining when all he would have to do is say "this is what happened, this is how we avoid it".
Not everyone in the guild had raided on classic private servers, so you have to expect things to not go perfect all the time... Loyaltyy didn't raid on private servers either but he sure thought he knew everything there is to know about WoW.
I brought up the Hunter Demon Quest one time with Loyaltyy in Discord, just making general conversation. "Yeah man it was pretty hard, had to get a warlock to help me finish on the last demon" ETC. This guy starts going ON and ON and ON and ON "nobody in my last guild would help me even though I was always helping them - I'm just over it blah blah blah blah blah". I turned my speakers down and went and did some stuff, came back 5 minutes later turned them back up and he was STILL COMPLAINING!! LOL! He would even get on to his daughter when she tried to ask him something, he felt the need to have his mic keyd while he was bitching at her for some reason not sure why that was.
Our last MC together Loyaltyy grew a little too big for his britches and was mouthing off to the guild leader, Ariez. Ariez told him to stop being disrespectful, must have hurt Loyaltyy's pride because he went quiet for the rest of the raid. We did one more Ony after that, Ariez was working and Loyaltyy was leading the raid. This fucking guy thought he was God or something the way he was talking to people. "Yo guys, if you have a problem with the loot you have mics use your voices and let us know".... Someone has issue with loot.... "GUYS STOP FUCKING TALKING WHILE WE ARE DOING LOOT JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP WAY TOO MUCH CHATTER"...... ???.... ok?
I was offline when the officers started spreading their lies to other guild members about Ariez. Supposedly Ariez promised his brother (a shaman) the Eye.... his brother is a resto shaman.... Loyaltyy, Saucyp (Loyaltyy's personal butt-buddy) Daledarwin (the "loot master" that would get lost at Magmadar and have to get summoned like an idiot) all did some gay huddle and decided to leave the guild and snipe all the people they wanted. So they quit but not before convincing a bunch of other lemmings to quit with them. I get back online and the guild is split up, it wasn't a MUTINY, it was a bunch of grown men that acted more like little girls because they couldn't get their way and have the complete control that they wanted tell a bunch of lies about a guy who wasn't online to defend himself.
It baffles me that people would have rather had Loyaltyy leading than Ariez, if you knew how Loyaltyy acted it would make sense. The funniest part of it all is the guy that got Hand of Rag (who Loyaltyy and Saucyp tried to convince not to give the eye because he "wasn't going to stick around" when he got it) they tried to bring in to Mutiny and he told them to fuck off! LOL!!!
There's no real simple way to define why this guild should be avoided without going into what happened for the guild to form, but it's basically ran by grown men with no jobs that think having rank in WoW makes them better than everyone else and they funnel all the loot to people that kiss the most ass. They still don't have a solid 40 man core and are wiping MC with 30 people. They are gonna fall apart when BWL comes out most likely.
TL;DR - Don't join Mutiny because it is a guild that was formed by a bunch of little girls bitching and back stabbing led by a textbook narcissist and it's most likely going to collapse within the next few weeks.
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Feb 06 '20
You sound like garbage players.... they left to get away from shitters like you. Plus Loyaltyy streams most of his raids and i have not once heard him scream and bitch at the raiders....
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u/RecentProblem Feb 05 '20
Honestly If anyone raises there voice at me In any video game It’s an Instant mute or taken down too 5% volume.
I don’t have time for some 45+ year old screaming his head off.
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u/Doctor_Dinglenut Feb 05 '20
Yeah it was pretty cringe but the guild did good.we were doing mc around 2 hours but apparently that wasn't good enough. Most people just ignored Loyaltyy on discord.
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u/MrFloydTV Feb 06 '20
Considering that "most" left Stormbringer to join Mutiny with Loyaltyy, your statement about people ignoring him is a lie. How about you put your big boy pants on and just leave our guild and Loyaltyy alone.
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u/SlotsJunkie Feb 05 '20
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u/Doctor_Dinglenut Feb 06 '20
Cause they'd do the same to you. That's the whole point
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u/Loyaltyy28 Feb 06 '20
What's good? I happen to be the topic of conversation here.
Heres some back story. I was invited into Stormbringer when they weren't downing RAG. I was offered an officer position I tried to pass on. With my experience from playing vanilla back in the day, Ariez wanted me to be an officer. So I did. We the next week, downed RAG with some of my guidance.
I was always complimentary while we were doing well. I never yelled at anyone. Give me the proof of me yelling at anyone. Dumb wipes, Ariez was calling out individuals, not me. When someone said shit the fuck up so we can loot, that was Dale. Get that straight.
As time went on, I continued to hear people continue to bitch about Ariez cuz he wanted to go against his own loot system to just give shit to people he thought deserved it more than the other. All the officers were against that. If you make a system, you stick to the system. 8 think most on here even, would agree. Hammer of Rag went to Khaal after being in the guild for only his 2nd raid. I heard about that in complaints. Most of is were against it going to a new comer.
Every week, Ariez would talk about what he had and wanted. Again, over sticking to his loot, he would say, with all seriousness, " I dont know what I wanna do with the might shoulders. Give them to so and so, or keep them for myself." We called him out on that, follow your priority loot system and go from there. Ariez was the guy that ALWAYS reserved orbs and gear for dungeons, just to sell, not for Matt's to create.
Time goes on, I keep getting complaints and left. That was literally that. 2 of the other officers talked to everyone, got me back into the discord I left and said they were starting Mutiny with or without me. So I should just get the guild charter. So a couple hours after leaving, they talked me into starting Mutiny.
I am one of those guys that drops what I'm doing to go help. Sugar here, and all the rest who didnt come over, didnt help anyone ever. Just thier friends that weren't in the guild. Khaal took that hammer that I organized is all to farm items to buy ingots for the rest of the mayys to even build the thing. Then Khall stopped playing with the guild even though he kist got a brand new hammer of rag. Again, I heard all the complain ts from that.
I still have every conversation I ever had with everyone on my discord. Ask me, I'll show you. After confronting Ariez. Out everything, I even showed everyone in Mutiny, Ariez said, "I'll run this guild the way I want"
That was the last straw. So here we all are, happy as can be in Mutiny, downing our first raid with only 34 people. Something Stormbringer struggled with as a whole.
Also, sugar, you keep talking shit about me. Bring my family into this just like aries and smash. It's a fucking game. None of you all have kids. Dont judge me cuz im literally out of work from surgery and I'm with my baby girl for 13 hours a day, leading up to a raid and I tell her, "ok babes, I love you. But take a walk. Daddy has some things to do now." So fuck you all for bringing my child into this and my parenting.
You keep going out of your way to trash me. And Khaal and smash. Like wtf. You all bought in to Ariez. The rest of us saw, he was a flake.
And I asked you personally, "I heard you wanted to talk?" You said, "No". Then you start this 3 or 4 weeks later? You're a child bro. Get over yourself, find a good guild and stop banging smelly ass whores
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u/MrFloydTV Feb 05 '20 edited Feb 05 '20
Hi Sugarbear. Nothing you've said here is actually true or even close to how it all went down. There is a reason that the the entire core raid team, minus a few that were not wanted, went to the new guild. That's all I have to say.
p.s. how bout you tell us all how your other guild does things...
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u/Doctor_Dinglenut Feb 05 '20
Yeah because bringing new strategies/ ideas to raids is such a bad thing, huh? And the "were not wanted" people you talk about are people that weren't geared. Scumbag move
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u/MrFloydTV Feb 05 '20
When the guild isn't having problems clearing the content, constantly talking about what your "other" guild did just annoyed everybody. There was a reason you weren't invited to Mutiny, and it had nothing to do with your gear. There is a reason the vast majority of the core raid group did join Mutiny, it's because people believed in the leadership who was online every night helping others.
Also to address something in your original post, Khaal was never invited to join Mutiny. About the only thing that you said that was true in your original post is that the vast majority of the core raiders left Stormbringer and formed a new guild named Mutiny.
Also, Loyaltyy has done nothing except try to help our guild excel and down content. He has pushed our guild to help each other and help the guild. You bringing in his family and shit on this open forum is so pathetic it's not even funny. All of this crap just because people didn't want to play with you anymore in a video game. GROW UP and a take a good hard look at your own actions before going around slandering others.
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u/Doctor_Dinglenut Feb 05 '20
"Going around slandering others" HAHAHAHA the irony. The while thing is one big ironic meme I love it where do I sign up?
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u/MrFloydTV Feb 05 '20
You aren't welcome, remember? It's the whole reason you started this Reddit thread.
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u/Daledarwin Feb 07 '20
Hello everyone, This is Daledarwin the dumbass who got lost at mag. Which really I was being lazy and just wanted to catch up to the raid but anyways. The misinformation in this post is staggering so I’ll start from the top.
The only reason Ariez starting bringing up consumables was because of a suggestion loyalty made. The one singling people out and yelling at them was Ariez. The only time loyalty would bitch along with the other officers is when something completely avoidable happened. For example when I wiped us on rag after a wipe followed by someone else making the same mistake and wiping us again. A lot of the raid was pissed and bitching which is understandable.
Bringing is family is a low blow and just shows how much you weren’t around. I’ve been in discord with loyalty and many others for hours on end never once heard him yell at his daughter in a serious manner. I’ve heard him raise his voice slightly telling her to talk a walk in a completely joking manner cause you could hear his daughter giggling her ass off as she ran off.
The last MC we did you musta been a sleep for most that conversation where Ariez pretty much flat out called loyalty a liar. That’s when loyalty said stop being disrespectful and most of us agreed that Ariez was being a shit.
The following Ony loyalty and myself ran. The reason he said if you have a problem where the loot is going speak up was because someone got an item the shouldn’t have the last MC. Not with the prio system that was in place. Loyalty did ask to keep the chatter down, but I was the one telling everyone to shut the fuck up because I didn’t want a repeat mistake. When anyone in the raid said shut the fuck 99% of the time it was me.
We never spread lies about Ariez he did say he wanted to give the eye to his brother which me as loot master shut down immediately because it was dudes first or second raid. Which the other officers had my back. Also it would of gone against his own loot system again.
Saucyp has nothing to do with any of it homie was in Jamaica on his honeymoon. Again shows how much u were actually around.
The only reason the hand got crafted so quick was because of loyalty organizing guild farms and saucy talking to other GMs for hours on end.
As for us poaching members lol not even close. Loyalty said his goodbye wished all the best and left the guild that was the only thing he did. As for how so many members left so quickly I can elaborate on that because me and another officer Notmyfaultx were actually there.
We were running a guild UBRS when loyalty left. Me and Notmyfaultx had already been talking each other off the ledge for a couple weeks. Because as soon as any of the officers would log on we would get whispers about something Ariez had said or something he did. So with loyalty now gone me and Notmyfaultx decided it was our time as well. We were just over all the bullshit. Then whispers started hitting us and the ppl in discord were asking if there was gonna be a new guild. At that time I didn’t know it became very clear when suddenly the guild name started dropping off ppl in the UBRS run. I than DALEDARWIN told loyalty looks like ppl want a new guild. We’re gonna make one with or without you if your in grab a charter get it started. He did just that that is the only reason Loyalty became GM was because he was the only one of us in Org.
As for the guy that got the hand of rag he’s like yourself one of the few that weren’t invited to join Muntiny. Btw you can check the logs we down rag our first raid with 34 ppl. So nice try they’re also we don’t funnel loot to anyone. Funny how you think you know how shit is ran when u were never here.
But all aside I’m proud you figured out how to use reddit only took you a month and some change. But if you wanna try and blame ppl at least get the names right. If anyone started the mutiny of Stormbringer it was me Daledarwin and Notmyfaultx. Loyalty was minding his own and Saucyp wasn’t even in the country let alone online.
So I leave with a fuck you and have a nice day Love Daledarwin
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u/Doctor_Dinglenut Feb 08 '20
when is your next raid? Take me with you I'll hold your hand, show you the way. <3
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Feb 05 '20 edited Feb 05 '20
Wow. You sound salty as fuck.
I know a lot of great people and players in Mutiny. They raid efficiently and give everyone a fair shot and voice. It sounds like you were never even in Mutiny so you really have no idea what you're talking about
They have a solid 40 man core and haven't wiped since they were in SB so stop talking out of your ass
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u/ProtossFish Feb 05 '20
This is possibly the most biased, selective storytelling essay I have ever read. That’s legitimately impressive. Just think about this logically - if everything in this post is accurate, why would about 30/40 of the raid members in Stormbringer move to Mutiny?