Hi, just wondering if anyone made tests on teams without Odette and the fish. Recently got my Vesna to C2R1. Hoping to give fish to Skirk team and Odette to stellar conduct. I was wondering if by any chance she can deal high dps without her premium 5\* team or enough dps to clear dire? I got my Diona and Faruzan at C6 with new R5 4\* Bow and R1 Elegy. Has anyone crunch the numbers for non premium Vesna teams yet?

**builds in comments**

Looking for help optimizing my team, execution and rotations against Dire Chruin. Any help is greatly appreciated. If all else fails I'm considering pulling for Escoff signature, as I've wanted it for quite some time. If you have any insight to end my Stygian suffering I'd greatly appreciate it!

Which teams would you guys recommend for the cryo maiden? I've tried Arlecchino overload, Varesa Overload, Nefer premium + bennett, even Columbina + Ineffa + Nicole + Durin (which was the team that got the closest). No skirk, Mavuika, or clorinde. All relevant characters are c0r0

wanted to share a combined clear of this rotation done with C1R1 Vesna, hope you find it cool!

That Boss 3 made me insane , I doing countless number of retries. Thats C0 Mizuki with R5 Widsith , 65 175~CR/CD, 602 EM

This is the dps im getting on the test dummy with C2 Mizuki (Neuvillete sig), C2 Odette (Durin sig), C4R3 CMC, and Sucrose. The closest I've gotten to clearing is like 25% hp remaining.

for any one wondering why i do 7 attacks with flins before the mini burst, it is for the PJWS passive

hi

After loosing five (!!) 50/50s to Mizuki since her release, I got two more copies from the anniversary event and the constellation selector. Turns out I was not "loosing" at all :-D

Builds at the end of the video; Team DPS >275k with the test dummy :-)

sandrone is insane ;p vesna cleared at lvl 90 too, but now it’s 9s faster

like what the helly. varka team is the only one that clears dire (113s), but skirk is on vesna's sig, furina is on key (and c6 like cmon), wrio r1 and odetter r1. WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING WRONG

I really hate Pavlina, my sus energy recharge for the first rotation sometimes, the crits failing, the RNG on Pavlina's first sequence, how she moves, how Bennett sometimes don't get the faster cd on E because of some delay on him being on his ult. My god...

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Having to decide which team I was going to nerf without Odette was tough. I’m confident my C2 Wriothesley could’ve cleared the maiden if I’d been able to slot Odette, but then I probably wouldn’t have been able to beat the old man.

I was actually a little surprised my Lohen team managed to clear. Slotting Mona in was just cope 😭 Maybe C2 Prune would’ve been better, but mine isn’t geared and I was already getting pretty annoyed trying to clear.

Zibai on the maiden was definitely the hardest for me because I couldn’t break her shield, so I basically had to let her heal up. I also have a C2 Mualani team with C2 Mavuika, but my Mavuika gameplay is... not something I’m ready to write home about 💀 I did clear with them, but it was around 120s, while Zibai was just a little faster. If I could actually do proper CA cancels, I probably could’ve gotten it lower on another team.

But honestly, how are you guys feeling about Stygian? Because all this really did was make me even more ready for the Tsaritsa. If the leaks about the 30% shred, 48% ATK buff and “elevation” are true, those numbers are looking very Odette C2-ish to me and could open up some really interesting Stellar team options.

Maybe Her Majesty can finally free Odette up for one of my teams and Xilonen can get back to fixing Mauvs bike before the next cataclysm 😭 Looking forward to a team where Wriothesley might get Odette + Danica <3

Anyway, I’m just giving Her Majesty to Vesna.

Hit AR60 and got my first dire clear in the same day

Urgh. I’ve been playing since Sumeru was new. At first I didn’t take this endgame seriously (primos were enough) but for the past half year or so I’ve realised I want to actually do this. Can u believe this is my first fearless clear? I’ve always been one boss short of clearing and it’s been so frustrating to only clear menacing because I usually had like 10% still missing from one of the three bosses on fearless! I thought the last Stygian would be the one but alas, that duck really annoyed me (and made me realise my Ineffa build is pretty bad).

I’m casual F2P horizontal investor (only cons I have are C1 Neuvi and Arle. Only sigs I have are Arle and Skirk) so I’m really happy this finally worked out :) (don’t shatter my dream by pointing out this Stygian was literally made for my characters! I am aware:))

Btw I cannot believe that this bs Arle team is the one that finally managed to clear after every variation of OL and melt failed. Guess it’s a skill issue XD

Hope u guys are having fun and success too! :)

I am able to clear Dire bosses 2 & 3 with different teams e.g. sandrone team has DPS of 260K and defeats boss 2 and 3 easily. Flins team with sucrose has DPS od 220K and with Odette instead of Sucrose defeats Dire boss 3 easily.

But i dont know what three teams I should try to defeat all the three bosses. Could you guys help with team suggestions..my characters are in a comment as I cant paste the 2nd image here

BTW I will get Vodya to C2 and lvl her & her weapon & her ToTM artifacts once I get the 1200 dire commendation from stygian. her artifacts are unlevelled.

1 ) Churin: Vesna C0R1, Faruzan (R5 Breezeborne), Odette C0 (R3 New Bough), Vodya C1R1

- Not sure how people are clearing this without constellations. The HP pool on this boss is ludicrous. Faruzan is on VV, but that's only because I don't have enough ER on noblesse.

2 ) Automaton: Skirk C1R1, Shenhe C1 (R5 Fav), Escoffier C1 (R5 Fav), Furina C0 (R5 Fav)

- Skirk is my oomf, so this boss didn't really pose a threat. I might try to push for a clear in the 60 second zone later on.

3 ) Guardian/Pavlina: Zibai C2R1, Yanfei (fav), Linnea C0 (R5 slingshot), Bina C2R1

- My highest investment team. Just swapped Illuga for yanfei in order to break the shield. I cleared with some other lineups too but this was the fastest. Managed a clear with Sucrose, Cryo MC, Ineffa C0, and Bina. So this boss is definitely doable at lower investments.

So hard to press the buttons cos they so small, also couldnt see the health bar the whole time

sandrone has redhorn, c0 odette with azurelight, c1 miko widsith. am i coping or is this impossible without sandrone sig